Discussion in 'Football Forum' started by Boss, Mar 16, 2011.
You watch him regularly this season?
Attacking wise, he is up there with the best. To be classed as a 'world class' defender he needs to learn how to defend first.
Jesus, the term 'world class' is now no more than a throw away statement given to any player on the continent that people see play a few games on Sky Sports every season.
Was Roberto Carlos not world class?
I have watched Madrid many times this season and he has been superb defensively. Going forward, he seems to go past players effortlessly.
He could also defend, in fact he was a quality defender.
Are you saying that Marcelo is Carlos' equal?
I rest my case.
Em yeah ok, good case there Boss Man.
Roberto Carlos was not better at defending than Marcelo at any point in his career and he's one of my favourite players.
You've just lied through your teeth to fit your criteria, if Carlos could defend so can Marcelo.
Robbie Boy do you watch La Liga, or do you automatically assume that because after Marcelo scored a great goal, Boss only rates him because of this and he is great going forward. He is a superb all round player with an incredible edge in attack.
Right and Madrid don't play direct football eh Robbie boy?
But of course YOU'RE the one who watches there games?
You have no clue about Marcelo this season, why don't you just admit it, and Roberto Carlos....
Well he's one of my favorite players, to say he was better defensively than Marcelo would be a plain lie, but he was a beast going forward but confess, you don't actually have a clue about this do you?
Just to save you going back through the thread and all that.
He's the lad who was banging on about how Madrid don't play direct football and now he pretends to have any knowledge on Marcelo, I find it hilarious.
Ok, I disagree, I think Marcelo is good enough as a defender.
Admit it, that's where you saw him play el clasico, off that game you would think Cristiano is a pub player.
Ah now that 'direct football' thing was more a case of misconception of the word Boss, and I certainly wasn't the only one in the thread to question your meaning of the term. Thought we grew up and got over that.
You are a patronising twat and I couldn't be bothered arguing with you, self righteous prick.
Yeah Boss Man, you watch every La Liga game and your word must be taken as gospel.
Don't make threads if you can't take an alternative opinion.
The fact you've got Scholesy backing you up should tell you something...
And stop throwing hissy fits when someone dares question your opinion. You make yourself look like a right drama queen, Boss.
You're not actually very nice.
What is your opinion on Marcelo?
Or are you here just to laugh at me and spoil the forums too?
Do you have any opinions?
But Scholsey has been watching Madrid many times this season
Robbie boy has proved before he's making it up as he goes along
Read my earlier post in the thread, dumbass.
Not to self righteous twats who try little bully boy tactics on an Internet Forum, no. You can't accept an alternate opinion no matter what, and resort to attempting to belittle anyone who dares to question your views, because Boss they are gospel and all that, take a long hard look at yourself
And despite doing this you came to the conclusion he's a massively overrated poor defender.
This season yes? His best ever season?
Kinnel, Now I'm definitely no rocket science but...
All I wanted you to do was actually watch the games and then form an opinion Robbie Boy
That was all.
No, sorry Boss I have watched plenty of Madrid games, sorry to burst your bubble and all that, anyone who doesn't agree with you though doesn't watch any football. Why the fuck would anyone lie about what games they watch.
Can't be bothered with your condescending bullshit.
You watch every game of football that is played every weekend, anyone who doesn't agree with you doesn't watch any football, no one is allowed question your views because well they are always right, I understand now.
He's been terrific in the last few games. Definitely one of the best attacking leftbacks. Not sure about him defensively at times though.
You've not understood at all, how did you come to such a conclusion?
the fact the madrid have been watching the portugese left back all season tells me I prefer my logic to yours.
Do you know how many players Madrid are linked to,or us, or Barca or arsenal? How many of them materialize?
And who said he would replace Marcelo,
Oh and one more thing, just look around you in this thread, how can Marcelo be overrated?
This post in my opinion is a fairly decent counter-argument, and actually I am kind of agreeing with you in a sense.
But no, does Boss just have a constructive argument? Absolutely not, you get all stroppy as per usual and throw out wild statements that I have never watched enough of Carlos or Marcelo to judge them, you start telling other posters about the whole 'direct' argument, which Boss let's clarify was a misconception as to the meaning of the word. I never disagreed with how you perceive Madrid to play, my issue was with the word and we clarified that whole situation, but no you have to harp on about it. You also accuse me of making things up, not watching Real play etc etc, get over yourself pal.
It is quite clear that anyone with an alternate opinion to yours is well, wrong. It gets old, if you are going to start a thread like this which is bound to have diverse opinion, at least argue your point and don't get condescending and come across as a self-righteous twat.
My point about Marcelo having a nightmare against Barcelona, to you meant that it is the only Madrid game I have seen, even though I did say it was an example and it was a tad harsh, it sprang to mind that is why I used it. But it is ok for you to use examples of Casillas having poor moments against Seville and Lyon, a tad hypocritical maybe.
Well I like to form my own opinions on players so this thread isnt likely to change my mind on that or Marcelo generally.
His abilities are obvious as are his weaknesses. As a defender which is supposedly natural position I think hes very weak. Now on the flip side he's an excellent attacker, pace/dribbling and even his final ball (improved alot this season imo).
I prefer defenders who can defend first and foremost. Not my favourite player in the world but surely you agree Cashley is the superior player?
Cassilas has many many blunders throughout the last 3 seasons and you would know thar Robbie if you did watch the games of course.
I also find it hilarious how you play the victim despite implying I came to my conclusions by watching Marcelo off a few sky sports games but what can ya do eh?
What can ya do indeed. Your not a superior football fan, not by any means, you are a self-righteous twat and I am going to stay away from your drival from now on. Go watch a Madrid match, I am sure you have them all recorded on Sky Plus, you are the number one football guru. Jesus, you are a twat.
I've watched a fair share of Madrid games this season and i'd say Marcelo is about as good defensively as Rafael, which isn't a bad thing.
He's a lot younger than i thought he was so I can't be too harsh on him as his main concerns (as it seems to be with all young fullbacks) are poor positioning and a tad over eagerness getting forward leaving gaps. My main concern would be that he isn't troubled as often in La Liga as he might be elsewhere, especially playing for a team like Madrid, so he may not iron out these issues for a while.
Pretty good left back, but best in the world is pushing it as Cole is way ahead in my opinion.
Cole is definitely better defensively. But Cole hasn't been outstanding or anything this season and neither has Evra. I'd say there isn't one single outstanding left back this season.
I'd have Cole over Marcelo in my team.
Fair enough, I honestly didn't know people still rate Cole as the best in the world.
I love how YOU'RE correcting his grammar in that exact sentence, THERE'S a good boy or is it 'der', 'dar', 'ther' or 'their' hmmmmm?
It's a position with few outstanding players so your shout of Marcelo as the best isn't as absurd as some have claimed as on form he may well be and is quite possibly in the top 5.
It's just in terms of a player that you know can perform at a top level over a season Cole, Evra and Lahm are still ahead of him. Marcelo needs to keep a good level for the rest of the season and put in some quality shouts in the big games as let's face it that's the real test of a player, especially a defender.
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