Discussion in 'Transfer Forum' started by K2K, Jan 26, 2019.
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I don't see Inter selling without an obligation to buy.
Emery likes his high workrate wingers like Mourinho so makes sense to go for him.
West Brom's execs loved those loans with mandatory purchases, probably for an easier structuring of the transfer payments.
He’s gash Arsenal are more than welcome to him.
Thank feck Dino man is gone. By now we'd be bent over a barrel desperate to get Perisic at any cost.
A classic example of why Mourinho's methods flat out suck. He wanted Perisic at all costs and complained that he didn't get him. Would get one good season out of him before he turns into mid table level and someone we'd look into replacing again. Pretty much how it is with Matic. How Sanchez instantly isn't needed without even having good performances. How it would be with Alderweireld or Willian. People criticize Woodward, but thank feck he is the way he was because he didn't let Mourinho ruin us long term.
Maybe Mourinho can use his own money and make a bid for him.
He can then play him in whatever position he wants. On the floor with arse up in the air or on his knees. Whatever you want Jose.
Now he hands in a transfer request? Now? Poor Mourinho must be fecking devastated
Thank feck he didn't hand in a transfer request when Mourinho was here. We would be left with yet more dross in the squad on huge wages.
Agreed. I just find it fecking hilarious how Mourinho was desperate to bring him in for 2 summers straight and within weeks of him being sacked he hands in a transfer request
Not to mention that 'Mourinho to Inter' looks like a really possibility now.
Maybe the poor feker doesn't fancy the prospect of working with Mourinho
For once I like how the Italian clubs are getting stiffed with their own loan to buy offers.
Woodward has gotten a lot of flak, some of it right; but in the summer when people were going bananas about Mourinho not being backed; I thought Ed was spot on.
Firstly, a lot of us wanted Mourinho gone at the end of last season. He was already getting feck all out of highly talented players he himself had signed, and he was meanwhile trying to offload our top players.
If Woodward hadn’t vetoed it, we would have:
Definitely sold Martial
Probably sold Pogba
Spent 60m on Perisic
Spent 75m on Alderweireld or Maguire
And lord knows what other horrendous deals. It’s not to say we couldn’t use a winger or a CB but his alienating of our best players and targeting of aging or average players for huge money, would’ve handicapped us for years.
Probably hard for people to accept Woodward got it right, because he’s a popular hate figure around here. But to me it seems he’s actually doing everything he can to modernise this club. In the last three years we’ve completely restructured the youth academy, and massively overhauled and expanding our scouting network. Next, we know, the club is bringing in a director of football. Restructuring a club the size of United takes time, not least with the huge weight of history and scrutiny it has. Especially difficult doing it in the wake of SAF’s retirement.
Ultimately in 5-7 years I think we’ll look back and say he took this club forward.
We don't need him because he is natural in left wing position. But for Arsenal it is good signing. He is huge upgrade on Iwobi
Good post and I totally agree. The only mistake I think was not moving Mourinho out in the summer with the benefit of hindsight. If they weren't going to back him and thought his plans were detrimental to the long term future of the club then there really was nowhere for him to go here. Obviously the prior mistake was extending his contact in January in the first instance but that's another matter.
There's a fire in the kitchen and we're shopping for a new TV. We're gonna drain 35M of our already small budget on a 30y old who might or might not be okay.
Really good post, thank god Jose didnt get his way or we would have been well and truly up the creek
Off the topic; what is up with your transfer budget? You have maybe the healthiest financial situation in PL and you are not spending money
His output this season has been abysmal, even Mata who's our 6th choice in attack has better output than him.
Yet another dodged bullet. Thank god our club had stopped Mou from buying more tripe.
I watch a fair bit of Inter and he's been very out of sorts whenever I've seen him this season, I think his head's been away from Inter for a while personally.
He probably thinks about the nightly WhatsApp conversations with Jose when he asks him “When are you gonna sign me?” And Jose replies, “Soon Ivan, soon.” Every night the same conversation, yet the signing never comes.
This is one of the reasons why I'm now of the opinion that a DOF isn't necessarily a priority as it turns out the board got it spot on with the transfer activity in the summer (well maybe not spot on but certainly better than we gave them credit for). However....
.... the point still stands that if they had concerns about the manager the time to move him on was in the summer and not after he'd ruined half the season
He was one of the key players to take Croatia to the finals at the world cup. I think he never recovered from the summer yet, could look very different next season with some rest and full preseason at the club.
His attitude this season has been very unprofessional and annoying on the pitch (not just poor performances) and outside the pitch. Its a big question why hes asking to go now, I dont see a step up for him and his career (except the money) to go from Inter to Arsenal, it must have happened something bad between him and the Inter environment.
Mourinho and his supporters are looking more clueless by the day.
Hope he does go to Arsenal, more people will realise what a streaky player of his and the pocket of posters on here who were desperate for him will know why the board wouldnt spend the money on the likes of him.
Check the Arsenal thread, lots of reasons, some are true some are not, nobody really knows but if we end up on February 1st with only Perisic and or/Suarez, it is not going to end well.
Oh my god
Nothing wrong - it was what Jose had wanted.
Ed isn't a seasoned pro but he was spot on with those players . His only mistake was not getting a defender .
Interesting how everybody on this page knows for an actual 100% fact what went on behind the scenes.
What's even worse is the complete denial of the fact that our transfer business was limited last summer first and foremost because we needed to balance the books. A big reason for this is the insane spending in the last five years. But another big factor that conveniently gets completely overlooked in this, is that our business model is to keep a steady cash flow so the Glazers can keep on leeching money.
"The Glazers take around 50% off all Manchester United profits
The results revealed that, while the team is struggling, it is a money-making machine of unparalleled proportions. They generated record revenues of £590m and pre-tax profits of £44.1m, making them the most valuable football team in the world. Commercial income and TV money were up, allowing the club to absorb a drop in matchday income caused by lack of participation in the latter stages of the Champions' League.
What was barely mentioned was that, while United are making more than ever, they are losing around half of everything that they make to the Glazer family, as well as financing the deal by which the family bought the club in the first place in 2005."
Financial record after financial record is being broken. But a manager wanting to spend 40 million on another winger is somehow so problematic that he has to whine about it like a moron for two(!) summer windows straight.
Finally .. thanks for this sensible post.
He's 30 in a week or so according to google - he's a solid player but a very short term signing given his age and his position. Think Arsenal are in more need of defenders, a keeper for next year and a CM to replace Ramsey.
Its theft. Why hasn't someone bought them out ffs?
This 100%. Glazers are laughing all the way to the bank. They are what's wrong with this club.
In terms of priorities, it makes no sense for the Gunners. Iwoebi is there.
What they need are more mobile defenders -- been that obvious for like 5 years now.
The dividends paid to the Glazers in the most recent accounts come to £22m of £44m profit,
This isn't that bad. The first statement uses sensationalism to alarm fans into thinking they are taking half of the club's revenue (580m) when they only pay themselves after every expense has been made, transfers included. We aren't the first club to have owners pocketing similar dividends. In any case their 20 million dividend still doesn't make Perisic worth it.
In general( of course that sometimes you can buy excellent player for smaller money) transfer fees show what owners want from their club. Arsenal's owners show with their transfers that they are happy with this situation. They decided that they will not fight for title and they are happy with top six spot and that is why they are buying 30-35 mil players. Perisic is very good player but he is not a player who will bring you titles. For that you need monsters in attacking positions.
Next transfer window is biggest test for Glazers. If they invest in top class defender(s) and in one more player( full back or winger) then we will know that they want to fight with City. If they go for some cheap solutions then they are happy with top 4.
Isn't this the guy who, according to Mourinho purists, was the one that could have changed our fortunes and missing out on him was the reason why we destroyed Mourinho and not vice versa? Seems bullet dodged.
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