Jürgen Klopp Watch | "We lost 'cause we played Sevilla; United won 'cause they played Ajax"

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    TheReligion Abusive

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    :lol:
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    montpelier Full Member

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    This is right up there with when he makes his specs fall off, :D.
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    BorisDeLeFora Full Member

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    Technically it's a fair statement, if Liverpool had every player firing at 100% for the whole season they would be challenging.

    But it is obviously absolute nonsense.
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    AndyJ1985 Full Member

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    Ah the old injuries excuse. Every team in every country in every league throughout the history of football has had to deal with injuries. Shut up and deal with it.
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    Samid follows Pogue around, fixing his images

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    They've been very unlucky with injuries. Not to mention the fixture congestion. Oh, and United scored offside goal.
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    podurban2 Full Member

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    Mihai Full Member

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    So it's:

    1. Fixture conjestion
    2. Injuries
    3. That United offside goal

    Have I missed something?
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    FC Ronaldo Posts stuff that's been said before in tweet form

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    The wind.
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    Mihai Full Member

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    Ohh yeah! I knew there was something else :lol:
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    Scarecrow Full Member

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    No doubt if they somehow didn't get any injuries, unlike the other 19 teams in the league, they'd have a big advantage that will allow them to compete better. It's true for every team.
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    Raw Full Member

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    It'll be worse with more than 1 game a week next season.
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    podurban2 Full Member

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    Don't forget when the whole population of the mighty Plymouth Argyle invaded their box and limited them to one goal over the tie itself and the replay. If it weren't for that, maybe Wolves would have been more intimidated and they wouldn't be finishing the season trophy-less.
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    El cagrejo Full Member

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    Liverpool aren't unlucky with injuries. Klopp's high intensity style of play essentially guarantees that they will pick up a lot of injuries so he has nobody to blame but himself.
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    FC Ronaldo Posts stuff that's been said before in tweet form

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    Tbf though, he's right. It's just that straw man argument is the same that every other team around them have too (United scored their chances, Spurs too, City's defence actually defended, Arsenal stopped being Arsenal in key months etc). It's the same thing every year for everyone.

    Nothing to really berate him about. This is a far lesser stick to beat him with than previously seen in this thread.
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    redman5 Full Member

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    Funny how we managed to give a good account of ourselves against the better sides - even with all these injuries - than we did against the lower sides.

    Our form in January is the reason for us not challenging for the title. We've had key players missing for periods right throughout the season (just like any other side) but we still put in some very good performances regardless.
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    Ekkie Thump Full Member

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    So the updated list would be:

    1. Fixture conjestion
    2. Injuries
    3. That United offside goal
    4. Wind
    5. The population of Plymouth
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    podurban2 Full Member

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    That picture of Brendan Rodgers up in the blue would be appropriate to this list.
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    Minimalist Full Member

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    I think they've massively overachieved this season given their squad. Even without a single injury they shouldn't be coming 3rd.
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    Klopper76 Full Member

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    Disagree with this. Coutinho and Mane both got injured during games via freak accidents. Matip also had injury issues before we signed him and Henderson/Sturridge both seem to have fitness issues.
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    ivaldo Mediocre Horse Whisperer, s'up wid chew?

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    "You know those rating systems are flawed, they don't take into account households with more than two television sets, and other things of that nature."
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    Mourinho would try throwing players under her.
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    Ban Full Member

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    This.
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    Minimalist Full Member

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    That doesn't disprove anything? Accidents happen all the time on the pitch and a lot of players get away with it. How do you know Klopps methods don't make his players more vulnerable to bad injuries?

    Similarly a defender getting a red card can often be predicted when he's isolated and targeted, instead of it being a 'freak' event or down to his incompetence.
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    MrPooni Full Member

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    :lol:

    Bravo.
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    Klopper76 Full Member

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    Looking at the incidents themselves, I think it's clear why both players picked up injuries. Neither were what I'd call an everyday accident on the pitch.

    Both are similar to the accident involving Ibrahimovic last night.
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    Mihai Full Member

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    Thank you both for the inputs.

    List updated

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    . Fixture congestion
    2. Injury list
    3. That United offside goal
    4. 256,384 people in Plymouth Argyle box
    5. The wind
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    No Idea For Nickname Full Member

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    Depends actually, how many wheels? If only 4, she might be wheelchair, if only 2 then it is bike or bicycle, big wheels, small wheels? She could be a scateboard, or even a plane.
    So please, next time be more specific, like Jurgen is. Learn from the best.
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    do.ob Full Member

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    Extremely shocking.
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    No Idea For Nickname Full Member

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    Darn it, be specific I said, basket balls? handballs? tennis balls? Meat balls?:lol:

    Maybe her name would be Dusko?:lol:
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    Fridge chutney Full Member

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    Actually, two teams, this year and last, have had very few (if any) key injuries. Funnily enough, one won the title last year, the other looks like it will win this year. I'm talking about Leicester and Chelsea of course.

    Injuries do make a difference.
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    God, I can't wait to see this knob meltdown next season when they have European football to contend with along with that squad. it's gonna be glorious.
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    RobinLFC Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    Yeah it's almost as if we don't have a whole summer transfer window to improve that squad.
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    verminater Full Member

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    He should write to his MP.
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    Well, that's Ban's grandma off to get wheels fitted.

    "Throw me that Pogba boy....."
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    Peanut Butter Full Member

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    Not like someone related to Liverpool FC to roll out the excuses, is it? :lol:

    How many years without a trophy now, Liverpool? Tick tock...
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    RobinLFC Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    Those isolated quotes are of course funny to read and to laugh at, but more often than not they're taken out of context on here. I didn't watch the interview so someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I doubt Klopp himself started talking about a potential title challenge. You can only answer the questions which are asked as a manager up there.

    In se there's not even a lot wrong with what he says - if every member of our squad would be healthy and available for the entire season, I'd wager we'd be at least a couple of points better off right now which would put us somewhere around 70-75 points and right in the middle of the title race. Thing is, as already stated before on this page, that's purely hypothetical and a straw man argument: if United finished all their chances, if City had a competent defense, ... It's just useless to make those kind of assumptions, but if he was asked about it, I don't see anything wrong with it tbf.
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    If my aunts had balls...