Jack Rodwell, wasted careers and players not playing football

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    AJ10 New Member

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    Another player who thought he was better than he actually was.
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    SoCross Full Member

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    The hype train started to gain full throttle after he scored against us. Fantastic goal but think we were down to 10 at that point.

    He certainly had the potential to have a much better career than he’s having now.
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    I’m not saying that playing in China or the ME would be fulfilling either, just that I’d sell out rather than get a move to a lower Championship team to play games.
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    If you’re at a club winning trophies and you’re still getting games as a rotation player, I don’t see the problem.

    It’s always better to be a squad player at a big club than a starter at a smaller club imo. Solskjær is the perfect example of that.

    I bet Bridge looks back on his years as Ashley Cole’s reserve winning medals more fondly than his later years where he was bouncing around mediocre teams doing nothing of note.
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    Edgar Allan Pillow Was AFC, likes them hypoallergenic - no feathers

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    You have the likes of Oscar who choose to go to China for money. This is no different.
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    To be fair to him, his knees went at 28. A very top heavy guy, playing from 16. He managed to get one last big contract from Villa. Was hoping to have a bit of a Ledley King role with them, they were silly to pay him so much and tie him down.

    Source: a family member is a good friend of mine.
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    Keepers always big ones.

    Richard Wright and Stuart Taylor basically both spent 10 years of their career in the game being reserve keepers.

    Fair enough you move to a club and then they sign a new number one who's young and pretty good. However those keepers were actually moving to clubs who were well stocked with keepers so they weren't interested in playing at all.

    Rob Green seems to have become this in recent year, was at Huddersfield last season and now at Chelsea but he has been a first choice for over 15 years in fairness to him.
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    Yep pretty legit. He last played for us in I think September 2016 and dosen't even make the bench nowadays. Madness we gave him a 4 year deal, it runs out in five months.
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    The difference between Ledley and Micah was that Ledley used his brain when it came to defending. Micah rarely used his brain and his pace always seemed to bail him out. Him not training very much isn’t going to work for a player like him.

    I don’t blame these players anyway for sitting in their contracts. At end of the day it was clubs who offered them, why should they leave if they not getting better money?

    The same can be said about Fraser Forster. He was number 1 and signed a new contract last year. Then like a month later he was dropped. Even thought it should have been sooner yet the club gave him the new contract even though he was in poor form. Now they struggling to get rid of him.
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    I agree and I feel the same thing is happening with Reese Oxford.
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    England was desperate for a good DM around that time but had a lot of good CBs. Rodwell probably saw that as his best pathway into international football.
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    Snow Somewhere down the lane, a licky boom boom down

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    The best player in a pub-team is probably a player that played youth football at a top 40 club in England and quit very early because of injuries. It really depends on how lucky you are, that is if the injuries you sustain can be worked with, and how you are prepared to deal with the injuries mentally.

    Eiður Guðjohnsen suffered horrible injuries at PSV. He had just starting playing alongside Ronaldo for the first team when he got injured. He's in a country where he knows no one, can only speak to his family via landline a few times a week and he has to recover on his own. What he did was watch as much football as he could. He just studied it. After about 2 years of being out injured he was back to Iceland and everyone though he was done at 20 but he bossed the league and got a contract with Bolton. He says he owes his career to that injury because of how he developed his football brain when he couldn't do anything else. He also didn't give up. Many players don't recover because they sort of give up and come back scared from an injury and play like they aren't 100% which just makes it more likely that you'll get injured again. So much of the recovery us mental but of course there's also just bad luck which generally are knee injuries. And of course some people just can't handle the profession mentally and just break down. I can imagine Rodwell that being the case with Rodwell now and he probably needs professional help to get back in shape.
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    It is one of the things you can definitely blame Moyes for.
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    Clubs throw out so many players who are not good enough every year and let them fend for themselves when such young players used up so much of their time in football. No one bats an eyelid at this, no many people care about the local youth who tried to play for that club, but when one player decides to make his money from a billionaire owned clubs, suddenly the moral police and the moron fans come out in full flow calling out the player. they are all idiots really. It should be player power all the way, if you cannot afford to pay high wages and you still go ahead and sign players trying to get the TV cash, then the owner can feck right off.
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    InLevyITrust Full Member

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    Why do people talk about an earnings window for footballers seeming allowing them to justly earn whatever. If you retire or get injured retrain and get another fecking job, easy route is do your coaching badges or do a journalism course. If you are really that lazy go to McDonalds.
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    Cee90 Redcafe Fantasy Football Champion 2012/13

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    Ah Rodrigo.

    I remember being convinced he was the next big thing for us, he seemed to have a lot of quality at a young age which never amounted to anything unfortunately.
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    Come on they tried and failed in a sport they should have loved, many, many people fail in a career choice they wanted and had to work else where. Why do we idolise these players and hold them up on a pedestal. As for Rodwell, it’s his choice what to do, it’s hard to blame him as it’s the club who gave him the contract.
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    rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks

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    They're talking about footballers being top level earners and comparing to bankers, F1 stars etc.

    Not comparing it to your average joe
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    InLevyITrust Full Member

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    But why should they have to earn all their money in such a small period of time and not be expected to work on after their playing days are over?
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    rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks

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    Ita a moot point because most footballers go bankripb within a few years of retiring anyway. Doesn't really matter how much they earn.

    Over a 10-15 year period they've been able to spend every moment of their spare time living a luxury life. Their wives and girlfriend's get a taste for the good life.

    Then suddenly they have nothing to do. Endless time to spend spend spend.