Discussion in 'Transfer Forum' started by Adnan, Feb 17, 2019.
He's fallen away badly
Really? Granted he's not got Sancho numbers, but as an 18 year old wingback in a team that is doomed to relegation, 2 goals and 5 assists is pretty damn good for his first season in the top tier.
I'd take him at United if the valuation wasn't crazy.
Sancho looks terrific in the BuLi highlights I've seen of him.
Just wondering though, (based on the 4 UCL games I seen of Spurs destroying BVB & Pool beating Bayern), whether this truly means that he's just a small way from world-class (as you put it) or if the league is simply not at its best right now.
Uh no? He was rated the same as Foden,CHO or Brewster, he was even on the bench in favor of CHO at some point.
No he wasn't, there was a lot of talented 2000 players and no one really set himself apart, Sancho wasn't even rated higher than Foden or CHO, they were kinda even.
Fiete-Arp,Gouiri,Adli were rated just as high as the English kids during the World Cup/Euro U17.
In fairness, Sancho, Foden and CHO are all very, very promising.
England really do have some promising young talent at the moment. More than at any time I can remember.
I'm talking English talent. And the consensus was that the English kids were the best collection from that generation.
And Brewster? You've got to be kidding me. Brewster is a good player, but he's benefited by being supplied by an insanely talented group of creative players. No way was he ever considered as talented as Sancho. Many people prop him up due to his WC exploits, but that's poor evidence. If you were to use goals as the measuring stick for a youth striker, Brewster would be rated higher than Greenwood (even if he plays as a 10), when we all know that's wrong.
Also benched by CHO? I mean what? Are you sure you're not confusing him leaving the WC tournament midway because Dortmund recalled him? Is my memory that bad? I remember Foden being benched by Gomes a few years ago (like 1 or 2 years before WC), but not that.
Any chance of Hudson-Odoi as a Plan B?
I know Chelsea would hate to lose him but if he's running his contract down they'd surely rather get £40/50m from us than nowt. And they did sell us Matic.
No chance, they'll sell abroad if he's desperate to go.
Is he not a left winger? Has played on the right side recently but I think he prefers the left side.
He shoots more from the left side as he can cut in easier, on the right he plays more as a traditional winger. Good both sides though.
He literally hasnt physically stopped growing yet ffs
We could do with Sancho vs Barca
Even if he made it clear he was hell-bent on coming to OT? Has he got 1 year on his contract or more? I know it's unlikely but surely they'd take the cash rather than losing him for free?
I think he can play right or left but he's looked great as a traditional right winger on the rare occasions he's played. He's very direct on the right, just seems to beat his man for pace and fire in dangerous crosses/shots.
Too much money for Sancho.
Think he will start one of England's games, will be interesting to watch.
How much has he been sold for? I missed when it happened.
Rashford needs to work some magic in the international break.
Coming from someone who follows English youth teams I can assure you he was. Of course Foden and CHO were also extremely highly rated, but still slightly behind him. I'm sure @Classical Mechanic, @Sean_RedDevil and @Walters_19_MuFc would agree that Sancho was still the stand out in that group.
Disagree slightly on this.
Only Gomes was rated higher at a younger age but by the time they hit u17 he wasn’t the star anymore.
Watched all the euro u17 and the u17 World Cup Sancho was the star for that England team. If he was benched (can’t actually remember him not starting) it was for rotational reasons only.
He would have walked player of the tournament at the World Cup and probably been not far of Brewster for goals had he not been recalled by Dortmund.
Agree with your points about talents in Arp etc there were other very exciting talents at both tournaments, Abel Ruiz of Spain was very good at both also.
Did Sancho stand out in the U17 WC before being called back to Dortmund?
If our window was signing Alderweireld, Rabiot and Sancho what would you all think? Plus selling a few players we don't need.
Yeah, he scored three goals in the group stages.
I’ve said earlier in the thread that for me personally I thought he was at a similar level to Gomes, CHO and Foden. Gomes fell behind obviously but I guess Sancho was the more eye catching of the lot due to his flair. People talked about Timothy Weah and Vinicius as the other super talents in that 2000 group but I think Sancho was better than them, Foden and CHO are better too.
If we could get a RB currently in their prime, like a Meunier, someone who would allow us to ease Young out, while allowing Dalot to develop, I would be happy with that. The thing about signing Toby is that we’ll soon need to be thinking about his replacement as well. Someone like De Ligt would be perfect. Young, already very good and a leader.
I’d be very pleased with that. They’ll be quality additions to positions we need strengthening.
Timothy Weah isn't even remotely close to a super talent I'd say. He's not even the best American player of that age group. Name recognition helps I guess.
Is this kid really worth £80m? Someone convince me
Take no notice of that. Solanke was the leading goal scorer for England...
Do you regret buying Martial? If not, then yes, he is.
I'd just stick with Dalot as first choice personally. Perhaps risky but playing every week will be best for his development and he looks like he's got the potential to be good enough. Frees up money to spend on Sancho to fix the right wing issue and more money to throw at De Ligt and another CM.
No he wasn't, Rhian Brewster was the top scorer in the tournament. Solanke won the best player award at the U20 WC the same year.
Don't agree on Coutinho but you're right I dead forgot Pulisic signed for Chelsea. Also I think Zizou coming back means Bale finally leaves for Italy or Spurs.
Is Brahim Diaz rated that highly?
He will cost a lot more than that.
And yes he looks worth it.
He's a mega talent.
Meunier would be my choice at RB
More likely City will snap Sancho. Has he made clear he doesn't want to go back to City?
It’s not ‘more likely’ at all, there’s no basis for that.
City won't move for Sancho this summer but next summer it might be quite realistic if Mahrez is underwhelming and Sane hasn't signed a new contract till then. They don't have enough home-grown players in the squad anyway, so they are forced to look for English talents. If they think that Sancho is extremely special, they will try to re-sign him similarly to how we did with Pogba.
So, we better sign him this summer, next summer more clubs might be interested in signing him, including City.
Pep's comments this weekend about Sancho make it unlikely he'll go back to City IMHO.
As for price, remember that Ousmane Dembele was sold for £135m only a couple of years ago and put in very similar numbers to what Sancho has so far (10 goals, 21 assists in 49 games to Sancho's 9 goals and 15 assists in 34 games). The market has inflated since then and Dortmund will know that Sancho will have basically all of England's top clubs after him soon, especially if he impresses for the national team at the Nations League Final or Euro 2020. They can afford to wait it out and sell Sancho at his maximum value.
I doubt we'll sign him this year but it's well worth a try. For anyone thinking £80m is expensive for him, Dortmund would turn that down in a heartbeat. I'm not even sure they will consider £120m. If we offer a fee above Dembele's and maybe pay most of it up front, that might tempt them.
Transfer fees this Summer will be insane IMHO.
Yeah, we will be paying Demeble fee and then some. £80 million would be robbery in broad day light.
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