Jardim vs Zidane

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  1. Dec 17, 2018
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    JoaquinJoaquin Full Member

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    Plays nice football, good man management, develops youth, can perform on limited resources and has averaged around 2 points per game since 2011. Yeah what a bad choice.
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    Beaucoup Full Member

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    His Monaco side played good football for one season, the season before they struggled to score goals, the season after he failed to win a single game in 10 and was sacked. Seems perfect for a club in turmoil.
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    In Rainbows Full Member

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    Well they scored 85 goals in the league last season which was right after his 107 goal season. So technically it was 2 good attacking seasons.
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    JMack1234 Full Member

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    If I was in charge my shortlist of realistic candidates would be,

    1. Poch
    2. Allegri
    3. Zidane
    4. Jardim
    5. Howe
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    red thru&thru Full Member

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    I wonder why folks don't value the set up of Red Bull's. All their teams have a the same ethos across their teams. I'm quite surprised Rose is never mentioned.
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    el3mel Full Member

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    I just knew his name today so imagine our CEO. :D
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    JPRouve can't stop thinking about balls - NOT deflategate Scout

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    All his seasons were good.
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    groovyalbert Full Member

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    I don't think either of Poch or Allegri would fancy it, and Zidane would be a big gamble given the work that needs to be done on this team/club.
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    red thru&thru Full Member

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    My apologies :D, I know I keep banging on about them but it amazes me how they’ve been able to successfully use their blue print across 3 teams and we can’t even do it to one!
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    sunama Baghdad Bob

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    You make some good points. Agreed on all of them.
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    Adnan Full Member

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    Rose isn't mentioned because people are
    They're successful because they look at the coaching ability of who they hire and see if it aligns with their vision. This possibly applies to other positions within their club. We need to stick to our traditions and we'll be fine.
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    The club will be going all out for Poch. But out of these two I would like Zizou. Did a great job managing the egos at Madrid and would go a long way in changing the current environment at the club.
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    Poch
    Zidane
    Howe

    In that order for me
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    Out of the two I'd favour Jardim due to his work at not just Monaco but also at SCP.
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    I think people really overlook how much Zidane used the academy at Madrid and liked bringing in cheap players from smaller clubs and moulding them into top class talent.
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    Adnan Full Member

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    Does either of them speak English?
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    I don’t want Zidane here, even though he was one of my favorite players. But watching the matches of Real Madrid, I didn’t understand what kind of football they were trying to play. There was no structure and philosophy(LVG;)) in their football. Honestly I think they were very lucky in several games in CL and win it three times in a row.
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    sideshow_bob Full Member

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    Good list. Blanc, Conte & Deschamps could probably be added in too.
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    Brendan Rodgers anyone?
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    Don't know where the Jardim calls come from. Will never happen. Sometimes, you can get both brawn and beauty: Zidane.
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    Adnan Full Member

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    Brendan Rodgers i'd take over Conte, Simeone, Allegri etc. People can disagree but Rodgers plays attacking football and should've won the league with Liverpool if Gerrard didn't let it slip.:D A DoF working with Rodgers and he'd be fine.
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    I liked the idea of Jardim, and for some reason I don't fancy Zidane at all. I just don't see him building the club back up. The more I think about it, the more I like Pochettino. I think he could break his trophy duck with us if we were to back him to the hilt.
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    SER19 Full Member

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    Its clear that after 3 conservative choices we need to be prepared to go with more than a 'safe pair of hands'
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    We need someone to build the squad back up, both in terms of confidence and quality. Jardim may or may not be the best choice, but we need a modern young coach who is tactically astute, can improve our players, can use some of the plethora of talented players we have in the youth and has a good eye for talent. I don't think Zidane is that guy. Though, I am quite certain Eddy will go for someone like him because he is a big name.
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    red thru&thru Full Member

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    Rose isn’t mentioned because people are?

    How are our traditions so much more different than RB’s?
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    I have read that Jardim turned down an offer to coach in the middle east because he has a PL offer. Could be us.
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    Yesterday Zidane, on his Instagram account, posted a picture of him and Lippi at Juve, think he could be set to replace Allegri next season?
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    Adnan Full Member

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    Ignore the first line..

    You can't compare a club that operates as a FC to one that is a PLC. If we operated like a FC than we would never compromise on our style of play and would have our footballing structure modernised by now. If we stuck by our traditions then Mourinho would never have happened because his football never aligned with our traditions.
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    Inigo Montoya Leave Wayne Rooney alone!!

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    We've been a PLC for a while and in that time we've won the UCL and PL titles
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    Adnan Full Member

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    Compare that with FC's like Barcelona, Madrid, Bayern etc and our record looks very average. Even SAF said we underachieved in Europe.
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    Dont particularly want either to be honest
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    Inigo Montoya Leave Wayne Rooney alone!!

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    Compared to Barca and Madrid anyone historically would look average.

    But I do agree we should have been more like Munich
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    Hernandez - BFA The Way to Fly

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    red thru&thru Full Member

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    This is my point. We get the football side of things back again and the business will follow.
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    Eric's Seagull Full Member

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    Jardim. All day. Make this happen please.
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    Zidane mustn't be in the reckoning if we are looking to appoint an interim manager then a new manager next season. He's not attached to any club now so he'd just come in, get to know the squad and hit the ground running next season
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    El-Manos Full Member

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    Yup bang on
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    DWelbz19 Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    The rumours in the summer were that he'd take some sort of directing role there, I believe.
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    Peyroteo Professional Ronaldo PR Guy

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    You don't need to implement a recognizable style of play in a team to be a great tactician...

    Was Sir Alex just a good motivator too?
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    el3mel Full Member

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    I didn't say that.

    I said what United need right now is a definitive style and direction because the players lack basic stuff and the next manager won't just need to put players in position and give them in game instructions. He will need to coach them how to move and play.

    Zidane is a good manager, but he's not the one United needs right now, far from it.