Discussion in 'Player Performances Forum' started by Red Dreams, Nov 27, 2010.
I was referring to mistakes/lack of concentration, not ability.
He never did the things Evans is doing at the moment, he made a mistake every now and again but basic defending he has always done well.
Smalling has matured quicker than Evans and has more confidence on the ball. Evans has not even scored for us even though this is his third season playing for the first team. Smalling has scored two already playing 5 months in the first team.
Is playing like an off-form Carrick in central defence at the moment.
Probably confidence related, but what we should always ask of all our players, regardless of form is that they get stuck in. He has been too light in way too many challenges all season long. Needs the kick up the ass from Ferguson I think.
He has already proven himself though, and we all know what he is capable of on form.
Why are you counting Smallings pre season goal but then not countings Evans against Ireland XI?
Anyway young defender has dip in form shock horror.
To be fair I'm probably not as distraught at this defeat as I should be.
He looked a very good prospect next to Rio and Vida. But on form these are two of the very best CBs in the world capable of walking their partner through most kinds of matches. Next to anyone else he's not looked even half as good. I think its fair to mention Smalling hasnt looked quite as good when not paired with our top CBs too, but he's still looked good. Not completely and utterly useless.
Evans is terrible at the moment, absolutely dire. He just can't handle any kind of physical battle which is very worrying for a centre half.
At the moment, Smalling is miles ahead.
Oh my bad. I thought the header goal he scored for England U-21 was for us.
That was a terrible defensive display. He needs to go back to basics. Something is clearly missing with his game at the moment and it's costing us. I'm sure he will find his way back to form with more time and patience though.
I don't think he'll be on the teamsheet for a few weeks.
Fergie was pissed and rightly so.
Let's put things into context here - that is the first game in 8 years in which CARLTON PISSING COLE has scored 2 goals in a game.If you can't handle Carlton Cole you have problems not just as a Manchester United player but as a defender in general. Absolutely shocking.
Tricky one for Fergie, Evans looks lost out there right now, I mean the errors he is making are basic fundamentals of defending, I think maybe a few reserve games may be in order.
Rio was accident prone - as in an accident every few games. That's not what Evans is going through.
If we're lucky he's going through some kind of growing pains - mentally or physically - and he's not our current third best centre back. No one will begrudge him some more growing up time, if that's all he needs.
Otherwise, he'll be playing for another club next year.
Give him away
Cost us a goal Against Blackburn when he came on and two today . Have we kept a clean sheet with him in the team this season??
He has been at fault on numerous occasions for nearly all the same type of thing. Being too indecisive and physically weak.
Poor performances are one thing but his sheer lack of effort for Cole's goals was a disgrace. Hopefully getting dragged off will make him wise up.
Call a spade a spade he was only partially at fault for the 4th goal. Rafael was easily beat on the right for the cross that eventually led to the goal.
The lambasting Evans is getting on here really is boarding on pathetic.
Partially at fault?
the biggest thing that worries me is a certain pattern- he doesn't know how to defend crosses. when the ball arrives he neither marks his man nor jumps to head it out. he does nothing to prevent a striker from scoring.
Everton game, Blackburn and tonite's game can serve as an example
he looks weak and his body does not look as thou its developed over the last 12 months,physically needs to srengthen up,Will not make the grade with us after looking a certainty 18 months ago.
I hope Evans does not read this forum. The amount of battering he is receiving here will want him to leave football all together.
Add Fulham to his errors list..
Thats what I noticed to. He's unable to just jump and head away. He always wants just to block the player, the same with back passes.
He needs to get back in form, maybe a loan or a spell in the reserves would do wonders
He's 22. Its far too early to say. How about we wait to see how he recovers from this rather than writing players off as soon as they hit a poor run of form in their career
Don't be so dramatic.
he's a professional footballer and as such should expect such stick.
However saying that I have concerns over his mental toughness and ability to get out of this slump mentally.
Well if he's that mentally weak maybe he should. His been crap but i'm sure he's well aware question is will he do something about it. We are all with in our right to discuss bad perfomances aswell as the good.
remember when n.ireland played spain in the qualifiers about 18/24 months ago,he never give torres a kick in both games.Looked a real prospect then.
You have to agree it is a huge worry. Look at Pique for instance and where his career is now. Evans is not going down the shitter, he is already down it.
He has been in this type of form for about 8 months now, maybe more.
its amazing how his form has gone completely out the window this year. This is the same guy who nullified drogba more than once in the past. Surely the club must support him until he regains his true form.
The prob is that its hard to c how this is gonna happen. his confidence is shot and im not sure how hes gonna get it back. After this performance he may not even play agianst valencia and then god knows when he will play after that. Only injuries to the main duo could open the door but sureley brown and maybe smalling have moved ahead of him know.
If he's that mentally weak, maybe that's what he should do?
Mainoldo posted almost the same thing
I'm just kidding, fecktards
I wonder if the signing of smalling has pissed him off.
I agree'd with you that it is a worry, but not a major one at his age. Damm, i wish these 2 threads were merged
he's probably jealous that smalling most likely has a bigger cock
This is where we disagree, I think it has become a major worry now.
The things he keeps getting wrong are really unforgivable for a centre half. He should be learning and improving from the likes of Rio and Vidic but he has gone the opposite way.
Evans plays left back for Northern Ireland so it was more likely Craigan or Hughes who didn't give Torres a kick.
Aye. He barely did anything to stop him from scoring.
He's nowhere near as good as some other young centre halfs around his age in the PL. I thought Smalling played quite well. Evans just looked unsure, slow and clueless. Poorest I've seen a United centre half for many years.
He is fecking crap. Cant deal with tall strikers, cant deal with pacy strikers, cant deal with off the ball movement, cant run with the ball, cant pass. Overrated on here by way to many people. Had he played for anyone but us we'd be pissing ourselves.
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