José looking to sign 6 players in summer - 2CM, LB, RB, W, CB [Times]

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  1. May 16, 2018

    VancouverUtdFan Full Member

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    Sandro seems like it’ll get done. So does Alderweireld. Fred/SMS looks likely as we’re heavily linked with them.

    LB-CB-CM1 look like they’ll get done for certain...leaves us with CM2 (pending Fellaini leaving), RW, and RB.
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    Yep. Similarly last year, we took Matic being the more experienced and proven player. If we get Toby, he’ll be class for a couple of seasons but then will need to be replaced soon as we will have to with Matic. There’s no doubting their impact but it’s just that you’ll get a few seasons out of them before they inevitably begin decline. I’d be happy with either one of Alderweireld or Umtiti. Both can make passes to start a buildup but one you just know for certain is capable of that and won’t need a settling in period.


    Except City weren’t playing catch-up. They were playing spin the Sheikh’s wheel and spend mommy&daddy’s money to whatever extent they want :lol:


    I call bs hahah. Mourinho clearly doesn’t rate him whatsoever and didn’t bother playing him. Let him make his wages on the bench all year so I’m 100% he’s gone.
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    VancouverUtdFan Full Member

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    Night and day difference.

    A proper LB will allow there to finally be link up on the left side of the field.

    A proper RW will likewise allow link up on the right side of the field whether it be Valencia (although slowing down) or a new RB.

    An everyday ball playing CB will be huge to relieve pressure when we’re getting pressed. Instead of panicking, being able to pick out a pass and move the ball up to start a counter. Likewise a new CM who can keep that chain moving.

    ...I think the biggest problem is the link ups. Getting the pieces in order to have those connections is what’s missing.
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    DarkXaero Full Member

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    At this point, no, he is not coming here, he is Barca bound.

    I don't think there is anything wrong with playing Griezmann on the right in a role similar to Mata's role when he is played on the right. Dybala is even more suited for that role.
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    Fer Full Member

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    LB: Both are good, but I prefer someone like Tierney.
    RB: I haven't seen Hysaj, how good is he?
    CM: I like SMS, but I think Fred could give us more balance in our midfield.
    CB: Alderweireld, great player. My only concern is his injuries.

    I would add a Right winger. We need to improve Lingard/Mata in that position. Which RW would you sign and do you think Hysaj is the best RB we can get?
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    bosnian_red Worst scout to ever exist

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    Agree for all this, just stating what seems to be likely based on rumors. Havent seen much of hysaj so not sure, though there aren't many right backs available.
    Definitely in terms of wingers and left back I would love Tierney and Sessegnon, as I think its classic Fergie type signings and both needed given what we have.

    For right wing, I'd love Leon Bailey but we aren't linked at all so probably not.
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    Calvin Carrick New Member

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    I think we only need 5.
    RB- Fabinho (can also be cover for Matic at CDM)
    CB - Alderweireld
    LB - Alex Sandro or Sessegnon
    CM - Milinkovic-Savic
    RW - Bale or Willian
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    Ducklegs Part of first caf team to complete Destiny raid

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    I dont see how people can say we dont need to replace Valencia as a matter of urgency. He is one of the main reasons we are so flaccid in attack and weak in defence.
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    Can Willian play as a RWB? I mean he's obviously great in attack and he does the tracking back as well.
    We could play a 3-4-3 next season

    ---- Sanchez ---- Lukaku ---- Bale ----
    Sandro ---- Pogba ---- Matic/ Fred ---- Willian
    ------- Bailly ---- Alderweireld ---- Smalling -------

    Sandro and Willian would give us the width we've been longing for.
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    Sterling Archer Full Member

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    Maybe they found a possible cure for the unshavable mutton chops. I mean, that's the reason for Darmian's poor form right?
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    Fer Full Member

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    Sanchez - Lukaku
    Dybala
    Sandro - Pogba - Matic/Fred - Traore
    Bailly - Alderweireld - Smalling
    De Gea
    If we are going to sign a new attacker, I prefer Dybala rather than Bale. Both are good, but Dybala is around 4 years younger and less injury prone.

    William could do a decent job as a wingback, but we would have a 30 years old player next season playing out of position. Take a look on Adama Traore, he is fast and can take on players
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    I like the players we have been linked to so far. If we sign the first 3, we are already in a great position. Let's just hope that Fellaini fecks off to China so that we can get a 2nd midfielder. If we get an RB and RW too, then we are totally sorted. But all this seems far fetched. When was the last time we signed 6 starters?
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    I like the look of Traore too, lightening quick!
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    Notice a lot of people putting there squads up with 3 at the back, what about Shaw as the LCB, when at southampton defence wise he was superb, was his attacking which was always going to be the issue here, might suit him and get the best out of him, 6'1 so height wise should be fine.
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    crossy1686 Full Member

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    Only after the World Cup. I remember when we signed Hernandez before a World Cup and he cost us about £12m. He had a great World Cup and people were talking about him being instantly worth at least £30m after it.
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    crossy1686 Full Member

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    Shaw won't play for United again, unless we can't give him away.
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    prateik Full Member

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    6m
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    crossy1686 Full Member

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    Jesus! Was it that little!?
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    I remember James price tag going up after his wonder goal/performances in the WC. Madrid signed him for quite a bit and thought he was the next big thing. Why I hate that aspect of the WC. It’s a tourney which a guy can get lucky and have a few exceptional moments and clubs linked to him get screwed because his current club can twist it and say well this means he’ll clearly turn out an exceptional player if he’s able to do such things at the worlds biggest stage.

    So overblown lol.
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    VancouverUtdFan Full Member

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    Not starters but players:

    12/13 (SAFs last year), 7 players were brought in - RVP, Kagawa, Powell, Henriquez, Buttner, Reece, Zaha.

    14/15 another 7 players - Di Maria, Falcao, Herrera, Shaw, Rojo, Blind, Vanja Milinkovic Savic (brother of SMS :wenger:)

    15/16, 6 players - Martial, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Depay, Darmian, Romero



    ...it’s happened more times than people think and a number of times where 5 guys were brought in. It’s just that, the 6 reported now have to be more rock solid impact players than in years past. Before it was 2-3 regulars and a drop off with the remainders. This time, it has to be all 5-6 players being similarly close to one another in terms of talent and effectiveness just because of where United stand and how they want to close the gap.

    More possible than people think at first sight ;)
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    Dennis Viollet New Member

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    perfect, but I don't believe we can spend over 300 ml euros.
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    Sounds at this point like we may very well be concluding early deals for Alex Sandro, Fred and Alderweireld.

    We'll move for another midfielder (Milinkovic-Savic?) if Fellaini leaves, I still don't see us going for a right back, and I guess we only go for a winger if we offload probably Martial but maybe Mata.
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    Sounds about right. If Fellaini stays, I'm just expecting 3 in this summer - CB, LB & CM.
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    I must say I'm one of those who thinks we'd need 5 or 6 signings to be considered on all fronts. A hypothetical quartet of Alderweireld, Willian, Fred and Alex Sandro joining would still be a pretty good summer on paper.

    Willian would be that right winger we need and I personally think him joining would offset the need to buy a right-back for another season. Willian possesses very decent defensive capabilities which would help what would be our right-back selection of Valencia and Young. I've watched Willian in action when Jose was in charge of the 14/15 Chelsea team against Swansea. Chelsea won 5-0 or something like that and I believe three of those goals were set up by Willian starting the counter-attack and he made the correct pass each time. He seems like the player Jose loves to have in terms of his ability to attack and defend, and seems very capable of playing in a counter-attacking team which is what we are.
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    Kapardin Full Member

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    Feck no, I can't hack another season of Valencia starting regularly. We have been linked to RBs, surely we will get one in.
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    I'm now warming to the idea that we might not sign a RB this summer.

    There's no real standout candidate. Valencia and Young can rotate in that RB role for a season without an issue, IMO. The lack of attacking threat would be solved by adding an actual RW such as Willian, meaning we could use the budget for other issues and concentrate on a RB the following summer. Young could provide cover at LB also.
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    I see Young becoming the starting RB if we don't make any signings, Jose has already said he hopes Young can play a lot of games next season and he won't do that if he's just sat on the bench behind a new LB signing.
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    Sign a left back and move Young to RB where he doesn't have to fumble and shuffle to his other foot.
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    cyberman Full Member

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    Young and Valencia shouldn't be regular starters but the flip side of that is there isn't a side in Europe with 2 better back up players imo.
    We are going to need a lot of bodies to balance redemption in Europe while chasing the 100 point champions.
    Even this City side couldn't manage it. Liverpool finished 4th due to that lack of balance as well.
    Young and Valencia should start plenty of games regardless of who we sign.
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    Starting to look like Sandro, Fred, alderweireld and William (assuming martial leaves).
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    Fer Full Member

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    What about Milinković-Savić?
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    I heard that PSG are making serious moves for SMS so I suspect he will choose them sadly. Fred on the other hand we are the only ones in the market for him so if we want him I suspect we will get him.
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    Fer Full Member

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    I wasn't aware of that. I thought Tuchel wanted Weigl to play him next to Verrati/Rabiot/Draxler.
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    We’re linked to him. It seems Fred we are linked to closer and will likely be the CM1 regardless. The CM2 we’d probably be after is SMS/Jorginho if Fellaini leaves.
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    beingshe7don Full Member

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    Fred (CM) ---------------> 40m
    Teirney (LB) ------------> 30m
    O Dembele (RW) -------> 30m + Martial
    SMS (CM) -------------> 80m
    Alderweirld (CB) -------> 40m

    Total --------------------> 220m

    ---- Sanchez ---- Lukaku ---- O Dembele ----
    ----------- Pogba --------- Fred ----------------
    ------------------- Matic ------------------------
    Teirney --- Bailly --- Alderweirld --- Valencia
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    MS4 New Member

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    lol dembele = martial + 30
    What?
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    That team is so strong, we won't even need 11 players to beat teams. :lol::lol:
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    CM: Milinković-Savić

    CM: Fred / Jorginho

    RW: Mahrez - W̶i̶l̶l̶i̶a̶n̶ ̶/̶ ̶B̶a̶l̶e̶

    CB: Alderweireld

    LB: Sandro (Darmian+cash)

    RB: Fabinho/Meunier
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    NoPace Full Member

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    My order of need for these 6 is:

    Desperately needed:
    CM1 - I'm fine with Pogba-Herrera-Matic as a trio but we need a 4th guy who's better than Mctominay or Fellaini for injuries and to
    challenge those 3 and the dropoff after them is insane. Signing an older player (by which I mean 27 or above) here would be fine, what's needed is quality immediately.

    Maybe survive a year but no real hope of a great season from current roster:
    LB - Young did well but he's still inexperienced positionally and it showed on some key conceded goals. Shaw has the talent but it doesn't seem to be happening. Signing an older player (by which I mean 27 or above) here would be fine, what's needed is quality immediately.

    Solid performance, no PFA upside of any kind:
    RB - Valencia and Young as a combo would be okay for one more year if we signed a fulltime LB to free up Young, in that Valencia can defend and Young can attack and we could platoon them. Valencia a year older but his body and injury record impressive. Signing an older player (by which I mean 27 or above) here only really makes sense if they're an immediate star.

    Some hope of a very good year and a solid baseline, but unlikely to get a PFA level season 8/10 times:
    RW - Doesn't seem like Martial or Rashford are ready to win that job, Lingard is better centrally and Mata should be the creative backup option Signing an older player (by which I mean 27 or above) here only really makes sense if they're an immediate star.

    CB - I think Lindelof-Bailly could be real good but I wouldn't bet on it next year and everyone else has their issues, be it injuries or passing. Signing an older player (by which I mean 27 or above) here only really makes sense if they're an immediate star.

    Could wait a year, but would be nice:
    CM2 - 4 guys and then options like Lingard or Sanchez as a 10 for the 5th guy with Mctominay or Fellaini playing mop-up minutes is fine. I've been very impressed with Herrera when he's been the 6 so wouldn't have an issue with him being Matic's only real backup as our DM. Signing an older player here would be fine even if they're just a solid passing CM, but no reason to spend big.

    Overall:.
    Based on the above I'd be happy if we spend big on the major issues and hope we come out of this summer with a talented CM (haven't seen enough of SMS or Fred to have a strong take), a starting LB and 2 out of 3 from the CB/RB/RW positions.
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    Yeah totally. Plagued by FFP, under investigation for the Neymar buy, obligsted to buy Mbappe for 160 million pounds and now they are going to buy SMS for 100 million, why not.