José Mourinho | 2018/19 Performances

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  1. Sep 30, 2018

    Andersons Dietician Full Member

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    Anyone notice that comment about Diop as well? It’s strange that he mentions congratulations to the scout that found him as I find it really hard to believe he wasn’t a player our scouts would have known about since he was a pretty well known prospect along with Lafonte the keeper. Wonder if he has heard of Malang Sarr.

    Anyway seemed like another sort of dig at United and Ed on the CB front.
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    togg Full Member

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    Yes it was a definite dig. He seems to be targetting pretty much everyone at the moment (except McTominay, at least yesterday!)

    I'm starting to think he's destroying everything on purpose, subconsciously - if such a thing is possible. For someone who allegedly has huge respect for Ferguson and what he achieved he's certainly showing the ultimate disrespect to the big man who was given far less money each time he built a team but achieved so much more with every one of them.
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    MyOnlySolskjaer Creator of Player Performance threads

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    I think going to the EL is a good thing for us considering our level. Don’t be disheartened by a loss here.
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    Bestietom Full Member

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    Since the Summer I have been saying, " Look out for Mourinho's Antics". He acts like a child when he cannot get his own way, and now he has lost the dressing room.

    We will sink lower and lower under him if we allow him to stay. Don't anyone try to tell me that we don't have better players at this club than Brighton, Derby, or West Ham.The players no longer want to play for him, so he should go now before it is too late.

    Yesterday again we had no formation or balance, we were like a flock of sheep with no one willing to run into space. The team he picked was like from an amateur schoolboy manager, who had only 15 to pick from. No balance, Players out of position, and he just didn't know what to do.

    This is from a manager who is supposedly the best in the world. He needs to go now,and bring in someone who can get these players performing again and quickly. We are a bloody circus act and the board are just standing by, letting it happen. No chance of winning anything under this manager now, He is Finished.
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    Andersons Dietician Full Member

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    You talking about dropping in to the Europa league? If so I was kind of thinking the same thing but if we do we need to cut ties with Jose.
  6. Sep 30, 2018

    redDNA New Member

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    Although the rot at United is deeper than mourinho.The managment(Ed) and the players should also be blamed.

    However,I think being the link between the management and the players Mourinho has done a terrible job at managing both relationships.He has thrown the club,the players and everybody under the bus and has refused to take a good look at the man in the mirror.

    For instance,it was terrible of him to publicly whine about not getting the targets,especially a CB after spending huge sums on two CBs in the last two summers. Poch did not get his targets last summer,he is not whinning publicly.When Sir used to say his famous "no value in the market",probably the owners did not want to reinvest,Sir probably protected the Club,his players and management from the press with those lines,while probably putting pressure on the management behind the scene to reinvest.

    The club has hit a cul de sac ATM a whole lot of changes need to be made,but it should start from Mourinho as soon as possible.


    As a fine I do not mind contributing a small sum to pay his contract clause,even if we do not win anything this season,I want united playing with passion and exuberance again.I can give anything to have my wondeful weekends back.


    Tchau senhor Mourinho.
  7. Sep 30, 2018

    UncleBob Full Member

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    It's Newcastle, look at Watfords start... We're 7 matches in, it doesn't define the rest of the season, chillax.

    If it's a disaster or not depends on where we finish.

    Top 4 is hardly a benchmark, and I've not said anything about it, but it is crucial that we make top 4 so that we don't risk losing out on players and fall further behind
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    Ekeke Full Member

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    He's not even that great yet. He's obviously young and good for a club like West Ham but thats all.
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    The holy trinity 68 The disparager

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    First post of this thread, you jinxed everything! :nono:
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    Jazz Full Member

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    That's what narcissists do.... they have the most destructive tendencies of any personality.
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    Cassidy No longer at risk of being mistaken for a Scouser

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    lolz
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    Rifer Full Member

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    Lost his mojo.

    Last seen: Some games in Season 2016/17.

    Wth is with that two final like for like subs he made? Screw stupid team balance when we're losing, chasing to win games. Martial and Pogba out, the two who offered goal threats in the game, for Mata and Fred.
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    sunama Baghdad Bob

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    From what I have seen on youtube channels, there is a clause in the MUFC managers that if they fail to get top 4, they can be sacked with little compensation.
    If however, they are still in the running for top 4, but get fired, they get fully compensated.
    So, in a nutshell, to fire Jose now, is going to cost the club more money and as we know with Ed, he is all about reducing spending and increasing income.
  14. Oct 1, 2018

    #07 makes new threads with tweets in the OP

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    joleb New Member

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    Perfectly said.

    However, i do think that he can handle this whole situation a bit better, tone down the drama a bit. Talking about the drama now, i think the only thing that could come out of it is the fresh rebuild - Lets just tear down everything and rebuild from scratch. The drama will help.

    In all cases, i am pretty sure that whoever manages the team after him will face the same problems as Mou did if nothing major changes.
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    I'm disappointed by Mourinho, I though he was partially changed and will leave the conflicts with his own players behind, in previous experiences. It obviously wasn't the case. It baffles me to think that an intelligent guy like him thinks that he can win while in war with his best players. I'm starting to think that his ego is bigger than the rational decisions expected from him, maybe even he does it on purpose,hoping to get sacked.
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    Adisa likes to take afvanadva wothowi doubt Scouse Lover

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    It's simply his character. He can't help it.
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    Djemba-Djemba Full Member

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    I'm just desperate to watch Utd play good exciting attacking football.

    It's been almost 6 years of utter boring shite. Whoever the next guy is has to be an attacking manager.

    Not fecking Conte or any other negative manager.
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    Kostov Full Member

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    It seems like that by all accounts. I've backed him many times, and wanted him here after SAF, but he is too toxic as it stands.
  20. Oct 2, 2018

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    I'm generally struggling to understand, and accept, Mourinho's insinstance on never substituting Lukaku. The only time he hasn't played the full match this season is our first match of the season against Leicester, when he had just returned from his vacation. Apart from that it's always the full 90 mins.

    Last season: First time he was subbed off in the Premier League was when he got the head injury vs Southampton, then there was the 77th min sub against Huddersfield and he came off the bench vs Bournemouth before he was subbed off with an injury vs Arsenal. Apart from injuries, he was only subbed off once. Champions League ? one match where he was subbed off in the 74th min.

    From my perspective it's absolutely mind boggling that we never sub him off. As a bare minimum it's important in order to:
    - Keep other players in that position fit
    - Rest Lukaku

    Like today, when he's completely switched off for the majority of the match, we stick with it, no changes whatsoever. Didn't think Alexis was great, didn't think Alexis was extremely poor either, he was a lot more involved than Lukaku. Alexis wanted it, badly, you could easily see he was gutted when he had to come off. Why not try Rashford, Martial and Alexis up front, we already moved Fellaini up top for him to win headers, why not have a more mobile trio work off Fellaini.

    The contrast to other managers is huge, Guardiola is happy to sub off either one of his players, won't hesitate whatsoever. Mourinho will pretty much sub off everyone but Lukaku, no matter how he's performing.

    It's going to cost us
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    Last season was phenomenal?!
    And he already pretty much stated that we would play for the second place in Valencia, which is probably true, but to say it publicly just shows lack of belief or simply the fact that he doesn't give a shit
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    Cassidy No longer at risk of being mistaken for a Scouser

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    Hes basically saying the players are shit and he performed a miracle with the squad last season
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    Amazing that we have won one home game this season, two very slow players in midfield, the team moves the ball slower than a sloth, and he’s learnt nothing since joining this club. No evolution, not evolved has a manager since coming here, and when he leaves no top club will touch him. He’s just waiting for his paycheck because the board the spineless goones that they are, won’t fire him until top 4 is impossible. They log into their bank accounts more times than they watch games. Previous managers since he was fired at Chelsea in 2015, have put up title challenges than he has since joining United

    And he used to laugh at Wenger for not winning titles, how he moves the goalposts to suit his moronic agenda, he’s finished has a top manager
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    Sylar Full Member

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    I really wanted it to work out for him. I think the best time to get him was actually post Ferguson but it didnt happen.

    The big issue i have with him is how he changes things so often on a game to game basis, but when it comes to ingame management, its not good. Its baffling at times, and then it seems to just result in hoofing it towards the front as quickly as possible hoping for something.

    3 years in and we still dont know what his style of play is, or what his best lineup is.

    At the very least I was expecting a team that doesnt concede, and tries to score on the counter. We arent even getting that.
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    He has to start taking the blame for these tactics. Our attack was ponderous and slow, while we failed to commit numbers forward until the latter stage of our attacking phase.

    Worse than that, he is showing a lack of ruthlessness in his selection in two ways:
    - persisting with fringe players who have clearly displayed their limitations and have no future at the club (e.g.
    Mata, Darmian)
    - Failing to drop underperforming players during games (e.g. Lukkaku who was possibly our worst player last night)

    I'm missing faith in Jose and from a selection perspective, I want to see three things happen:

    1) It's seriously time to sideline the 'no future' players from matchday squad and focus on preparing them for exits. I'd put Jones, Rojo, Darmian, Mata and Herrera in this catagory. After last night, i think Valencia has also declined to the extent he should join it too.

    2) Give chances to youth. That includes more established players like Perreira, through to high performing academy prospects like Chong, Gomes, Greenwood

    3) Be ruthless during games and show their are no 'golden gooses' if a player is having an off day. It's the high performing standards that matter, not egos

    Unfortunately, I can't see it happening. He will continue on the same path, repeating the same mistakes, failing to inject new energy and competition, while standards continue to drop
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    Patrick08 Full Member

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    I think Rui Faria's departure is also playing a huge impact in behind the scenes management and coaching this season.
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    cantaldo Banned

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    Despite all the money spent by him on attacking talent, west ham's attacking trio look more dangerous than any attacking trio mourinho has put together so far this season.
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    Greck Full Member

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    Their manager inherited a stronger team
  29. Oct 6, 2018

    #07 makes new threads with tweets in the OP

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    Something of the old Jose Mourinho about him today. The early subs, the risky tactical changes, the difficult to get use of Pogba as an auxiliary/at times centre back that somehow worked. More please.
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    Kamprad New Member

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    Good thing Mourinho didnt coach C. Ronaldo and Messi in their early years because he would kill their joy of playing football. They would be half as good as they became.
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    #07 makes new threads with tweets in the OP

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    First half: Except for the inclusion of a player for this game, it's not a bad starting lineup (Is Mou trying to scapegoating McT and Bailly?) Valencia drop, unexpected. Sancehz bench. Pereira bench. Martial and Rashford starting. Not bad. Fellaini bench is unexpected but as a super sub, sure.

    Then when we're losing, let's put Bailly out (put Mata in, good) and stick McT to CB, to retain that defense balance......

    Second half: That's better. 3-5-2. Fellaini in, fair. The game is still bad, the team attacks is not connecting. Better attitude, we had a go at 'em.

    Rashford not effective, out, Sanchez in, fair.
    Martial then decide to screw it and do what he wants, coming infield, got a free kick, Mata score. Game change. Then a quick counter attacks with Mata. Then 1-2 with Pogba, score.
    Sanchez score afterwards and up his game, win.

    Then, interviews, said bad things about Rashford and McT.....
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    Rifer Full Member

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    Good effective half time team talk.
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    Brilliant performance yesterday. He was screaming from the touchline,motivating the boys, harassing the fourth official and rousing fans. His changes were absolutely spot on with tightening the back while attacking in focus. If I am right, he changed his mind at the last minute on substituting Martial. That proved to be really smart. His three changes made a massive difference. Mata scored, Sanchez scored and Fellaini gave Martial more freedom to express himself and score. From what I hear, his half time talk ignited fire in the lads and I loved his post match comments. Yesterday reminded me why I believe there is still a superb manager somewhere in there in Mourinho. I hope he stays and gets it right but if he is fired, I hope we will be fair in the way we judge his legacy here.
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    Patrick08 Full Member

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    One thing he does well is shutting down Hazard time and time again.
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    Adisa likes to take afvanadva wothowi doubt Scouse Lover

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    Really wish we'd won.
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    WR10 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018

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    Masterclass today. It was a game where we really had no chance but his tactics nullified their possession play in midfield and if it wasn’t for rashford and young’s piss poor performances we would have won the game with some ease.
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    Forgetting the FA cup final?
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    sunama Baghdad Bob

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    That was Phil Jones being utterly useless.
    Phil Jones would then repeat his brain fart, against Hazard in the World Cup.