Jose: Football is changing, managers are more head coaches

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    Bastian Full Member

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    When asked about the board not going after his targets he said that's football management. That football is changing and managers are now more like head coaches.

    I don't think he could have dealt with that any better.
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    Judas Open to offers

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    Pretty much spot on isn't it? We just need the right men above him to do a better job than bloody Woody.
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    Smores Full Member

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    Brave thread, bunker down a storm is coming :lol:
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    Kapardin Full Member

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    He's right. But we aren't too good with Ed running the show either.
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    Agreed. Annoying that he was being baited.

    Neville makes a good pount though - who in the board roo. is vetoeing joses targets - theyre not football men!
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    Bastian Full Member

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    Neville pointing out that there is no one at the club in the role of a sporting director and that he doubts that SAF is an influence with regards to how the board has been acting. Right on Gazza.
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    SwansonsTache incontinent sexual deviant & German sausage lover

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    If that is the model we decide to go with then an actual football man should be brought in to arrange the transfers, leaving Woody to do it won't go well.
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    fergies coat New Member

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    Thought it was a really good interview by Mourinho.
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    sal klita Banned

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    Football is changing and Mourinho became a dinosaur. Nowadays, I don't see difference between him and Tony Pulis.
    Woody just doesn't know which manager is suited to club demands.
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    Bastian Full Member

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    The "I'm with Ed" brigade? Yeah, they can say what they want :wenger:
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    He also pointedly mentioned that Leicester spent more money than us and suggested that their squad matches ours in quality, and that "we should get used to that".

    So he's not exactly letting it lie, is he?
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    I actually came away from that reassured. Jose seemed enthusiastic and generally philosophical about not getting who he wanted. Of course that might all go the other way if we start losing, but I liked how he handled that.

    Neville spot on though. We need a director of football who will work well with Jose.
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    #07 makes new threads with tweets in the OP

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    Don’t know how it came across on TV but J stay was loudly singing Jose’s name and Mourinho’s red army. The hardcore ain’t given up on him like the internet fans.
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    Bastian Full Member

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    I heard that loud and clear. Lovely.
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    klsv Full Member

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    In before the "Jose vs The Changing Face of Football" thread.
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    Damien Self-Aware RedCafe Database (and Admin) Staff

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    I remember it being said a few years ago that we've got two boards. A financial board of directors and a football board with the likes of Fergie and Charlton on. Doubt they have anything to do with the signings part but they have some sort of influence with the club.
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    Did very well not to be drawn it to make this thing bigger than what it actually is.
    Now get that DOF who knows what we need and lets get on with football
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    Just like Gary said, who the feck is above Mourinho in a footballing capacity then?
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    Uncharacteristicly careful choice of words from Jose there. Hasn’t directly had a go at anyone, linked it into the changing face of football. It’s obvious that he wants to keep this job. Let’s get in a DOF to avoid this situation happening again.
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    Smores Full Member

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    Yeah certainly this, i really don't like the idea of Ed appointing himself in some kind of faux sporting director role.
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    The head coach would have brought Martial on (if he had the work done). The manager would have sold him.
    Confusing........
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    SwansonsTache incontinent sexual deviant & German sausage lover

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    Didn't we sign some big wig scout \ head scout type from Italy recently?
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    TehRed Full Member

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    We need a DoF who can take these decisions away from the money men like Ed to an extent, back the manager for reasons other than money, and actually know about football.
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    Feck Geoff Shreeves seriously, he asked him the same question in pre-match interview and then again later.

    Glad he answered so we can move on from this non-sense after this week.
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    Yes, I'm sure they have some influence and are perhaps consulted on major matters but I'm not sure they have much weight day-to-day. Is there anyone else bar SAF and Bobby who know anything about anything at board level? I feel like kissing Gazza on the mouth for pointing this out. Surely the calls for actual football people making the football decisions will grow louder.
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    :lol:
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    Most of us have been saying the same thing tbh
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    Ribalta. Gone to Zenit as sporting director.
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    The only thing that is confusing is your decision to bring Martial's lack of a substitute appearance to an entirely unrelated thread.
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    Fergies Slippers New Member

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    This has got to be a wind up. How has the caf even got to the point of comparing Jose to Tony Pulis because he didn't get the players he wanted in, 20 minutes after winning the first match of the season with a half fit team no less.
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    Id rather keep the manager picking our transfer targets, if we can afford who he wants buy them. One thing you have to admire about City is last year Pep decided they need full backs they threw 150 million at it it and solved the problem. We all sneered they overpaid but it fixed the issues they had. The DOF football model often results in being lumbered with players the manager doesn't want.
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    sullydnl Ross Kemp's caf ID

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    If he was trying to be diplomatic I'm not sure he needed to point out that Leicester spent more than us.
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    King Eric 7 Full Member

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    I don't think the board are dictating which players to buy. They are just stating that we can't pay x for a player who either a) has no resale value after a 4/5 year contract or b) isn't better than what we have. Previous targets last season / the season before were obtainable at the right price so Jose will need to adapt his list of targets based on the requirements of the club.
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    Great quote. You can clearly see he doesn't want any off the pitch drama this season and is trying to keep the heads calm.
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    Smores Full Member

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    To be fair to Jose or any future manager i think the club need to be very clear on the methods and scope under which they'll operate. It's the undermining that will not sit well with any manager
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    cyberman Full Member

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    He's pointing out the economic power of English clubs which is raising the standard of players at lower clubs.
    He even says that in the interview
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    Klopper76 "Did you see Fabinho against Red Star & Cardiff?"

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    I think he’ll give up on club football when he leaves United. I’m not sure he enjoys it as much as he used to.
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    Vidic_In_Moscow rectum-faced pygmy

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    In Jose we trust!
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    So, we’ve got a Marketing Man deciding who we sign now??