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Juan Mata 2018-19 Performances

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5.4 Average rating
17 Appearances
4 Goals
2 Assists
1 Yellow card
  1. Nov 9, 2018

    Trizy Full Member

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    If only he was rapid he'd be one of the best in the world, easily. He doesn't even need to be strong.

    His finishing, passing, dribbling, first touch, movement.. everything to be a one of the best. Except, obviously, physical attributes.
  2. Nov 9, 2018

    Ekeke Full Member

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    Its not a myth, its a regular occurance. And you asked for examples of it leading to goals. I didn't say it regularly caused goals I said it evened out the fact that he does help us keep the ball more, because he also allows the opposition to keep the ball more. What does that have to do with goals? Quote that part please.
  3. Nov 9, 2018

    Ekeke Full Member

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    They dont play for Mourinho. Rashford has been tracking back in recent matches, Martial did a good job tracking back against Juventus
  4. Nov 9, 2018

    Sylar Full Member

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    well...

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    Ekeke Full Member

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    So you're saying we've never conceded goals when Mata has been playing right wing and his fullback has been involved. I'll keep an eye out for it.
  6. Nov 9, 2018

    Sylar Full Member

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    Where did I say that? All I did just now was show you arent really sure what point you are trying to make, but making a statement, without anything to back it up. But regardless, Im not even sure of the point you are making.

    Im saying we are better with him on the pitch as he brings something others really cant / dont.

    And I think you are saying 'we are likely to concede whether we have him on the pitch or dont have him on the pitch, thus no better or no worse'?
    Is that right?
  7. Nov 9, 2018

    Ekeke Full Member

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    Yes. I think that him not tracking as well as Rashford has been doing recently means the opposition can keep the ball a bit better, maybe make some more progress down their own left wing. Whether that results in a goal I can't tell you, it completely depends on their own finishing.

    And I do agree that he helps us keep the ball. Its just that I think its basically cancelled out by the marking. Rashford will work harder tracking back but isn't likely to keep the ball as well.

    Regardless of that, as I said previously in this thread I'm more than happy for Mata to be featuring, starting at times, if he's getting on the scoresheet and creating chances as much as he currently is. In his United career it tends to be a 3-5 match purple patch before going back to being more average. But hopefully he keeps it up the whole season. Because then it doesnt matter if he's tracking back as well as others if he's producing goals and assists on a weekly basis.
  8. Nov 9, 2018

    Livvie Executive Manager being kept sane only by her madn Scout

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    Mata appreciation prog. on Talksport right now
  9. Nov 9, 2018

    clarkydaz Full Member

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    About to put the kettle on, next brew is dedicated to Juan
  10. Nov 9, 2018

    Livvie Executive Manager being kept sane only by her madn Scout

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    They are claiming he is going to Arsenal on a free :(
  11. Nov 9, 2018

    anant Full Member

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    Feck off. Mata needs to stay here. He's one of our best players and I doubt there has been a single game where we've played a fantastic game (attacking wise) and he's not been on the pitch.

    Additionally, I'll have to throw away 4 jerseys!:(
  12. Nov 9, 2018

    SAFMUTD New Member

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    It's like all the talent in the world was concentrated in a 12 year old boy, great vision and distribution but he must be the slowest and weakest player in the top 5 leagues. I know right now it's the hype train, but I will prefer if we move on from him. He is not suited for a team like us, he would be great in a side that played high possession tactics like Barca or City.

    But right now it's incredibly frustrating to watch our team try to counterattack and as soon as he gets the ball you know the counterattack is dead. Way to slow and way to weak to make a strong pass.
  13. Nov 9, 2018

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    Dont know about Salah but are you sure those City players don't track back? They press like crazy up front then run back to stay in a defensive position.
  14. Nov 9, 2018

    Foxbatt Full Member

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    He has vision and his movements off the ball is good but because he is so slow a defender can every time give him a head start and still catch him.
    He gets tackled very easily and lose possession very easily.
    He doesn't need to track back because there is no point in him tracking back as he never catches any player due to his lack of pace.
    His disadvantages outweigh his advantages.
  15. Nov 9, 2018

    abdo99 Full Member City Lover

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    They press high but most importantly keep their positions. Guardiola plays the positional game where wingers/wide players stay restricted in their zones and the fullbacks move into the midfield to help stop the counter attacks.
    Their heat map is well inside the opponents half because they defend very high up the pitch.
    For me Mata shouldn't be on the RW anyway because we don't press high enough or move the ball quickly enough to hurt teams in transition.
    He should be central behind the striker as number 10 where he can pick up the ball in his own time.
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  16. Nov 9, 2018

    Livvie Executive Manager being kept sane only by her madn Scout

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    Play him in his best position and his skill and brain will make up for lack of pace.

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  17. Nov 11, 2018

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    Sylar Full Member

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    People will say his lack of speed and covering means he doesnt play games like yesterday, but we seriously could use him to at least keep the ball for us and pass it to our own players.

    With Pogba out, we had nobody else who can take a pass and turn.
  19. Nov 13, 2018

    Annihilate Now! ...or later, I'm not fussy Scout

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    It occurred to me that Mata came on to play Number 10 and behind him was Matic and Fellaini, and in front of him Lukaku...

    I mean Christ, what the feck is he meant to achieve in that scenario.
  20. Nov 13, 2018

    Foxbatt Full Member

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    The problem is that when he passes to our players and go for the return he is so slow and weak the opposing team can give him a start and yet challenge for the ball and tackle him and re take possession.
  21. Nov 13, 2018

    Sylar Full Member

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    Im sure thats been said about D.Silva a lot...
    Id like to know the stats on this actually.
  22. Nov 14, 2018

    Darlington Padgett New Member

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    Silva is not slow at all
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    Ali Dia Full Member

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    Silva seems a lot braver, more intelligent in his movement and is an even better passer. I know who id prefer in my team anyway.
  24. Nov 14, 2018

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    That's one of my favourite games ever. Mata annihilating Spurs; Walker being a dick to Mata, and then Mata leaving him with his face on the floor minutes later; the Hazard pass for the Mata goal. The commentator calling the game "The Juan Mata Show".

    That Chelsea team was a lot worse than this United team; it's not even close. So the fact that Mata underperforms is a lot more to do with the system I think. The systems you have been playing over the past few years undersell the ability of many talented players in your team.
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    Nov 24, 2018

    Seanus New Member

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    Pointless player who had absolutely zero impact on the game today
  26. Nov 24, 2018

    PepsiCola Full Member

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    Thought he looked good and picked out some nice passes
  27. Nov 24, 2018

    anant Full Member

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    The guy was playing well centrally and everyone conceded that centrally, with runners around him, is an asset. Then suddenly Mou shifts him to the right. Thought he picked out some nice passes and should have had an assist (the Smalling chance), but he should be playing centrally!
  28. Nov 24, 2018

    El Jefe Full Member

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    He's pointless quite often. We have much bigger issues in the side which is why his consistent average performances get ignored.
  29. Nov 24, 2018

    Giant Midget Aka - rooney_10119

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    Not a RW. Is it 2014 again? We’ve gone through this so many fecking times, Juan Mata is not a fecking winger, stop fecking playing him there for fecks sake. Three manager, 6 seasons, and we still make the same fecking mistake. Why the feck can’t Sanchez just play on the right man, what the fecking hell is wrong with our manager’s brain.

    Feck.
  30. Nov 24, 2018

    stevoc Full Member

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    Mata should never play right wing, especially with Darmian behind him. Jesus what the feck goes through Mourinho's mind when he selects these two as a combination. Their left back could have brought a bean bag out there today and just relaxed.
  31. Nov 24, 2018

    Devil may care Full Member Verified Moaner

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    When there's no attacking patterns drilled into the team and the movement veers from erratic to static, a player like Mata will always struggle. I'm not saying he's a world beater these days but the way we play is hampering him as much as anyone in the squad.
  32. Dec 3, 2018

    anant Full Member

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    No hugs yet again :(
  33. Dec 3, 2018

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    Mourinho has broken Juan Mata's spirit.

  34. Dec 5, 2018

    Sylar Full Member

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    Shame he's not taller, reckon he would have come on if he was
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    Dec 8, 2018 at 17:03

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    :lol: Not one comment so far. Tells you something.

    Either him or Dalot were MOTM for me. Different level compared to the other attackers for passing, touch and movement. Should be playing more.
  36. Dec 8, 2018 at 17:04

    el3mel Full Member

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    He's a must in these kind of games when we're expected to dominate most of the play.
  37. Dec 8, 2018 at 17:11

    Andycoleno9 Full Member

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    When he plays, we play football. Why he doesn't play more, is 1,000,000$ question.
  38. Dec 8, 2018 at 17:11

    MyOnlySolskjaer Creator of Player Performance threads

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    We are so much better with him.
  39. Dec 8, 2018 at 17:13

    Siddharth New Member

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    If Mourinho was less complicated, he'd play him every week regardless of venue or opposition. He's easily our top 3 attacking player and a trustworthy finisher. Plus, excellent free kick taker. Shame.
    Love you Juan. Hugs.
  40. Dec 8, 2018 at 17:14

    Ekeke Full Member

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    Definitely the right pick today. In games we can control Mata inside of Dalot looks like an effective tactic