Discussion in 'Transfer Forum' started by Ramshock, Mar 9, 2019.
People only want Rabiot because he's 'free'. They are ignoring the fact that he is a bellend and that he would require a massive contract which would effect our wage structure and future contact negotiations. This isn't fifa and we aren't Juventus.
Yeah lads we dont need another full back
I think this could be along the right line of what we are targeting. Both are saying Wan-Bissaka, Koulibaly and Sancho, although they have Declan Rice instead of Rabiot. Of course with Herrera and Pogba possibly leaving that could encourage us to add Rabiot into the mix.
Rabiot would serve more as a substitute than a first team player given the amount his wage bill would be can't see it being worth it.
Who are you referring to when you say both?
Not Rabiot, I think PSG would be making an upgrade if they took Herrera the other way around.
Can't we swap Rab for Sanchez?
Would be better all round.
Kouli and Sancho instantly upgrades two nevralgic positions and definitely helping in reaching top of the table at some point.
Rabiot is a gamble but wouldn't say no to Obi Wan Bisaka.
He's 23 and he won't ask for something ridiculous like 500k in wages. I think the guy is definitely a good player. Apart from Pogba, I don't see any of our midfielders being better than him. Herrera is definitely a good player but in terms of skill, I think Rabiot easily pulls ahead. He's tall and is not a push over and would definitely adjust with the pace of the PL. Not even considering Rabiot would be a disaster... We actually need 2 midfielders... not just one.... Apart from Pogba, Matic and Herrera... we do not have any midfielders of similar stature to come off the bench when the trio are injured or suspended. Rabiot provides that sort of cover and I also believe that Rabiot could do Herrera's as well as Pogba's job. We need a Matic replacement. I think Declan Rice and Rabiot would be decent acquistions if we are looking to save money.
Wan Bassaka.... good player.... but with Ashley Young/ Dalot and TFM capable of playing the RB position, I'm not sure we will strengthen that position.
Koulibaly or De Ligt are my options for CB
Sancho would be great but I was hoping for a winger/ forward with a more explosive nature.... like someone who could make a difference on their own... Sancho only does well when the rest of the team are performing... If we need a moment of magic, I just don't see that coming from Sancho.... no doubt he's a good player. Joao Felix is my choice.... I think he would even be cheaper than the ridiculous amount that's being quoted in the media for Sancho.
Why the fascination with Rabiot??
This team does not score enough goals to win things. Who would score 20 goals in that team?
Because of his contract situation, its the only reason we are linked with him. I'm hoping another club hurries up and signs him as i'm not keen on him.
Rashford would, Sancho would chip in with 10-15, as would Martial and Pogba. There’s goals all over the front line.
Hope it's not going to be another summer of being linked with everybody's cast-offs and rejects?
Sorry I meant to write the Telegraph and Evening Standard
You are hoping, because that isn't based on recent performances. Has Rashford hit 20 in a season yet? Martial is awfully inconsistent, and Sancho is an unknown to the Prem, and with respect, has had one decent season in the Bundesliga. Note Pep's comments on him.
Why go with a forward line of players who do not have a record of banging in loads of goals on a consistent basis? I love Rashford, but I think Lukaku will score more than him, personally. I would actually like to see them two play more games together. Rashford needs to play off someone at times. Lukaku can drift out wide.. they BOTH need more goals and consistency.
I am not saying Rasford /Sancho/ Martial are not exciting prospects.. and I place Rashford slightly ahead of the other two.. but I want to see United with a proven name up top, and throughout the team. Griezmann. Lewandoski. Benzema. Kane... these are the names I want at OT. Because they are BETTER than what we have. We should not be fearful of signing big name, proven players. Not over the hill journeymen, and not suggesting we buy lots of them.. but we need a couple.
Koulibaly and Sancho ?
Each one of them will cost +100m.
And a club of our size should be spending over 200m most summers if we need it. We are capable of it. We've regularly been spending around 150m net over the last few seasons, apart from this season when we spent like 40m. The money is there and 200m isnt unrealistic.
Anyway, dont see us getting Koulibaly. I actually kind of believe the reports of being ok with Smalling and Lindelof. They arent bad at all. Sancho, and a couple of midfielders and I'd be happy enough. A CB would top it all off of course.
Yeah people really seem to think we are actually going to spend £400m or something this summer. They are setting themselves up for disappointment.
No problem. Cheers.
If Varane is definitely available, we should be at least making an enquiry, as per Ed's briefing last summer.
Benzema and Lewandowski are past it. I'd much rather play Rashford.
Koulibaly qnd Sancho alone would cost more than 200m, which is what I think Ole will have for transfers. I think it will be either Sancho or Koulibaly. Also, I don't think we need another RB, people don't seem to realize we have only one LB who is very good but injury prone. We should look for a decent LB as backup and eventually compete with Shaw. Wan-Bisssaka is a dream signing though, since he is English and already a beast. I wouldn't mind us getting Rabiot for free, but I'd rather stay away from him; he's kind of a crybaby and his agent mother is annoying af.
From today's news, it doesn't seem like the club will dismiss Alexis Sanchez, so I'm not sure how Sancho will fit in the team, considering we already have 6 forwards. In my opinion, realistic signing would be Koulibaly, Rice (although I hope not) or Bruno Fernandes, and...another one, or not.
He hasn’t hit 20 yet because he hasn’t been played as a striker. What’s his record under Ole? Like 10 in 20? You’d have to imagine he’d hit 20 a season minimum.
Koulibaly and Sancho, yes.
Wan Bissaka & Rabiot, nah.
I’ve seen those four players play about ten times combined overall.
Just wondering, is there anyone out there who regularly watches PSG, Crystal Palace, Ajax and Napoli as well as United every week and can tell me if they’d do well at our club?
If Brooks of Bournemouth hadn't just signed a new long term contract I'd be taking a close look at him as well. Immensely talented lad.
Looking at Ole transfer history, he might go full muppet mode and buy those players.
However, a more realistic window will be
Wan Bissaka, Rice and Sancho/Hudson-Odoi. If Herrera leaves then we might look at one more midfield addition like Rabiot or N’Dombele. I don’t believe we will spend over £300m this window. Max £200m.
Rabiot is an upgrade to Herrera when we are in possession of the ball. Off the ball not so much, but if you get the Rabiot that played the holding role against Barcelona on a consistent basis, he would be an integral acquisition.
He is mobile and quick for a guy his size (6 3) and has far superior technical ability to Herrera. I think people are missing the fact that PSG actually want to keep him and they are punishing him due to not being committed to the club which is his own choice.
Rice, Sancho and AWB would mark a quality window for me, the benefit we often get with English players is a desire to stay in England and more chemistry / bonding within the team. Alongside the likes of Rashford, Greenwood, Lingard we are doing the national team a serious favour.
I read somewhere that we was quoted 76 million for Skriniar last summer and although Koulibaly is better, Skriniar would be fantastic to pair alongside Lindelov. The guy is a tank a
Its very strange when people treat Herrera as some certified starter, as if he can't be improved upon. Love him as a player and personality, but he's already in his prime and he's not going to suddenly develop extra quality. It's difficult when you have one source of magic in it, 2 players that can open up a game from midfield help a lot. Whether it be a rocket from outside the box, a needle of the eye pass, or a mazy dribble.
The only way I would want Herrera to start unconditionally is if we get some serious quality up top. You can sacrifice in midfield if your forwards can score 20+ a season each. The links to Bruno Fernandes might be bollocks but I can understand the reasons for going after him. Herrera is a nullifier with a dash of forward play, it is not a surprise that our midfield struggles to control games against top opposition with him and Matic in it. Fernandes is someone that has good all round qualities like Herrera, but is very dangerous going forward (can score out of nothing quite often and is a good dribbler).
Koulibaly is definitely improving our defense.
Sancho is still a teenager.
Wan bissaka won’t take us to the top next season. If we want to develop young right back, develop Dalot not signing another one.
Rabiot, good player but I have question mark with his attitude.
Just sign all the out of/ nearly out of contract players....
Alderweild - 30
Rabiot - free
Lets say around 100
Then one big signing 100 mill- Sancho or whoever and we are sorted in all positions.
Sell the deadwood and we could be spending around 150. Thats leaves potentially another 100 mill for a suprise signing if anyone becomes suddenly available at a reasonable cost- kante, koulibaly, de light etc
How exactly is he a reject if he was the one rejecting PSG's contract offers?
How have you worked £400m out of these 4 that have been mentioned?
I don't want Wan Bissaka or Rabiot from the list though.
Only Sancho and Wan bissaka from that list.
Don't think koulibaly is a value for money and rabiot is just another fanny boy
The problem is that there are only so many positions we can really upgrade on in one window, and in terms of the midfield Matic needs to be replaced more than Herrera. The type of player we replace Matic with then determines if we need to replace Herrera as well.
If we look to replace Matic with a more defensive oriented player (such as what Rice apparently is), then Herrera needs replacing as well. We would need to increase the creativity and playmaking ability of that midfield. However, if we replaced Matic with somebody who is more of a deep-lying playmaker (let's say Neves for example) then we would need Herrera in there to provide that extra defensive shielding. It's why I favour the latter option so we would only need to sign the one midfielder and could focus on other positions (unless Herrera ends up leaving of course).
De Ligt may be young but he is definitely experienced. And isn't he captain for Ajax? Pretty sure he was named captain at 18 years old. That says a lot about his leadership quality to be named captain at such a young age...
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