La Liga 2018/19

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    Casanova85 Full Member

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    Midtable manager who inherited a winning 14-16 side with the GOAT still on top. Neymar abandoned ship at the right time. Valverde would have ruined him.
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    de ligt better smarten up and go somewhere else before he ruins his career. His potential would be wasted and Valverde would probably be his worst coach since he was like 8.
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    Heynckess was sacked in 1998 because he confessed to Lorenzo Sanz that he had lost control of the dressing room (and a bad Liga campaign). Del Bosque was sacked in 2003 for not winning the UCL in 2003. And Capello was sacked in 2007, yes. Ancelotti was given the "thanks for everything but feck off" treatment in 2015 despite C.Ronaldo publicly supporting him.

    Yet Valverde will be here by 2020...
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    I am not sure Neymar made the right decision only because his link-up play with Messi and Suarez was very good. Arguably he will never find teammates as good as them, in the sense of understanding his game.
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    Neymar has been injured for most of this 2019. We still have not seen the Neymar-Mbappé combination in full force.

    Valverde would have ruined the MSN with his 4-4-2 obsessions.
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    What would Neymar be doing under this clown?

    Staying in his own half as a left midfielder playing valverde ball. Made sense for him to leave. Going to Madrid now would be perfect for him.
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    No, he should go to Utd and become a winning LFW God.
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    And in the case of Del Bosque it was a mistake. Heynckes did very bad in liga and Ancelotti also lost it.
    You have to be cautious and think twice if you want to risk the stability that bring the trophies.
    The solution could be the Dutch line / cool coach to remember the importance of the style, but perhaps keep Valverde while looking sideways at Xavi, but Xavi is intimately related to Laporta. A complicated issue. Who would be your option?
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    Neymar under Mou? :lol:

    Either way he made the right decision to leave before valverde-ball ruined his career.

    If he ends up in Madrid he would have made the right career choice.
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    Short-term solution, "one season, see if it works, it should work": Koeman.

    3-4 seasons project (if it fails in the first season, feck me): Ten Hag.

    Zidane will win the 19-20 liga. Wait and see.
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    Well for any doubters that Barcelona has abandoned Johan Cruijff's philosophy I hope they have had their eyes opened. Pep Guardiola's Barcelona has given this team some sort of romanticism that still endures till this day. The last coach to truly use Johan's principles of play was Tito Vilanova in the first half of the 2012/13 season.

    At least Ajax and Manchester City are there to show Johan's philosophy is still possible to do.
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    You forgot 2015 Barça. A solid 4-3-3 which, contrary to popular belief, was not about counter-attacking, but possession and passing, especially by the MSN.
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    Koeman is dutch but his football style is not what Barsa needs.A gift for Madrid :drool:
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    Still better than a third year of Valvy.
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    Do you think de ligt will go to barca?
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    To Utd. according to MARCA.
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    Well reports are saying that he is still undecided and some are eve saying he might decide to stay.

    I hope he plays under a strong coach like Pep Guardiola or Klopp so his development continues.
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    Yeah you're right but we might never see it because i'm sure Madrid will try their hardest to get one of them in this window.
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    If Hazard goes I think they would be more likely to go for Mbappe as Neymar and Eden play in the same position basically
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    Floren is too stubborn to accept that QPSG is way richer than him.
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    Yea I agree. Which is why I think the Neymar boat might have sailed.
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    If Neymar ever moves to another european club again, I think it is more likely he would go to the Premier League than return to La Liga.
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    Really? What EPL club do you think he would go to? City wont take his wage and I dont think we would atm.

    I think he will stay in PSG and won't leave at this rate like Veratti and Thiago Silva.
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    I think Perez has done all he could for Madrid, really. The longer he stays, the more it becomes a Wenger situation where somebody refuses to acknowledge reality. They need a new president
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    Well, obviously not Arsenal because they're not a force to be reckoned with in the Champions League.

    I agree he is unlikely to go to City or United. I think Liverpool or Tottenham would suit his playing style, and of these two, Liverpool is more likely to have the money.

    Anyway, yeah, he will probably stay at PSG for a few more seasons until he returns to Brazil to close his career.
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    Floren still has gas left. But he's delusional if he thinks he can buy Neymar and/or Mbappé from QPSG. Those two players sealed their (current) fate. They won't move from Paris until they have fulfilled his contracts. I can only picture City buying Mbappé for 250 (+ variables) million, but they won't.
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    I'm just confused as to why a Madrid team that finished 19 points behind a turgid Barcelona are favorites for next season. I would think Atletico would be more of favorites than Madrid.
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    Hazard is already a huge improvement, and exactly what Barça needs: a new Top LFW.
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    Well not throughout, it was poor at the start when Messi was central from what I remember. Once Suarez stopped occupying the wings then it improved and Messi actually was consistent in occupying the wide areas.

    In some games Barcelona used counter attacking like the game against Valencia where the team sat deep and counter attacked. In some games I remember Barcelona attacking with a 262 with Messi dropping deep and Neymar and Suarez coming central. Once Xavi left and Messi stopped maintaining the width on the right, it was abandoned completely.
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    Still remember the game Barca had vs Bayern in the cl sf. One of the best games of football I have ever seen.
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    Hazard alone isn't making Madrid favorites. They have a lot of holes to fill in that squad.
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    Yes, that's true. And Rakitic in 2015 was closer to Fábregas than Xavi, Iniesta probably filling Xavi's shoes that season (when Xavi was benched).

    I keep saying that when (if) Barça wins another UCL, it should be known as "their first UCL post-Xavi".
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    Their cracks and poor structure the past 2 seasons has been papered over from Messi's brilliance and Ter Stegen often making great saves.

    They won't win a single trophy next season, because I expect Real Madrid to massively improve.
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    They were very dominant in possession in the 2nd half of that season.

    Not quite as dominant as they were under Pep, but still dominant.

    The difference is that Messi often stayed on the right and Alves was world class that season covering for him the few instances he did vacate the right.

    Messi refuses to occupy the right nowadays. He comes in centrally, Rakitic covers for him out wide and their midfield is outnumbered and plenty of holes appear.

    Messi/Suarez can no longer play together imo.
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    Vato Watches other men wank.Supports Real.Coincidence?

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    Agreed. Unless we bring in 3-4 great players we ain't winning shit.
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    Every manager going forward will be stuck between absolving Messi of defensive responsibility and maintaining a balanced structure.
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    We need pace and energy in midfield, and a primary goalscorer, preferably one that can play next to Benzema rather than replace him. So basically, Salah

    Hazard is an improvement but he doesn't really fix any of our problems
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    Vato Watches other men wank.Supports Real.Coincidence?

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    Let's buy in Hazard, Mbappe, Pogba and Neymar then.

    Seriously though, who would you replace in midfield? Kroos? Modric? Not Casemiro surely?
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    Kroos AND Modric, ideally. But at least one of them has to go. We've struggled against fast, physical high pressing teams all along, even when we were good and winning the double, but Cristiano being a killer went a long way towards making that irrelevant. Now we don't have a goalscorer like that anymore, and the team had gotten worse in general.

    With the current state of our team, Hazard is a luxury, Salah and Pogba a necessity
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    carvajal Full Member

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    Meh,I wouldn't buy Salah,besides where would play Mbappé :D