Languages of Spain

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    Santi_Mesut_Alexis_87 Full Member

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    Taking inspiration from what i was discussing in the Catalonia referendum thread, i have made a research and found Spain has so many languages (official and unofficial).

    Official:

    - Aranense: a variety of Gascon, which in turn is a variety of the Occitan language;
    - Basque: non-Romance language;
    - Catalan: to me, it sounds like another variety of the Occitan language (but i have to make a better research about it);
    - Galician: similar to portuguese. Is it right @Peyroteo?

    Unofficial:

    - Aragonese;
    - Asturian;
    - Leonese.

    Dialects
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    - Cantabrian;
    - Extremaduran;
    - Fala;
    - Eonavian;
    - Benasquese;
    - Andalusian;
    - Arabic;
    - Berber

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    Peyroteo ahahahahah feck off dad!

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    I don't really know, culturally Galicia is pretty similar to the north of Portugal but I'm not really aware of the differences in language in comparison to other regions of Spain. It's easy to understand spanish from pretty much anywhere.
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    barros Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    I couldn’t understand too much Spanish in the past but was easy in Galicia, I remember going there a few times when our money was stronger than peseta and basically was Portuguese with a bit of Spanish accent, now never when to Barcelona but I went to Madrid and a few cities and one thing I learned was they were damn arrogant, men and women specially in Madrid.
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    Arabic is a dialect in Spain ?
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    barros Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    The list conspicuously left off the Weaste dialect, which I understand is prominent in the Valencia area.
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    It sounds like a portuguese, with spanish accent.

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    Santi_Mesut_Alexis_87 Full Member

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    Don't know it. I have to make a research ;)
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    that's great thank you so much.
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    It's a variant of catalan. More or less identical in the formal written language - though some words, idioms, grammar conventions that are commonly used in catalan are more unusual in valenciano. The spoken language is probably close enough to be considered another dialect, rather than a completely different language. Or so I'm told by people who (should) know, like a teacher born/brought up in Barcelona but who was working in Valencia.
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    Galician and portuguese are very similar in the writing.There are changes in the ortography,for example:
    Irmán and irmão. They use more the nose and the "s" and some other letters sound slightly different.
    In Galicia we speak galician when we meet a portuguese.
    For what they told me it sounds like old portuguese or a spanish trying to talk shit portuguese.
    I understand almost all the portuguese from Brasil and very well to people from North of Portugal.Its more difficult if they are from the área of Lisboa.
    Some of the most important poems in the middle age were written in galego-portugues,as "as cantigas de santa María".
    The spaniards say that we "Sing" when we talk in Spanish,there is much more intonation rather than someone from Castilla,with a spanish more neutral.
    I think that it's a bit similar (the intonation) to the Spanish from Argentina/Uruguay
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    There are eight languages native to the UK. I expect this is is similar in most countries?
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    Very interesting read. Weren't Galicia and Portugal together until around 1500?
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    Dan Aka Lumines

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    That’s one of many internet only languages.
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    :lol:
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    I remember going to the catalan region with university and being surprised by the linguistic differences.

    Our geography tutor had lived in chile and his wife was spanish but he sometimes struggled to clearly understand a catalan guide.
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    Are there people in Catalunya that can only speak Catalan or do they all speak both languages?

    How different is Catalan to Spanish? Is it easy to pick up?
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    What about dialects from cities, Granada and Cordoba?
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    Peyroteo ahahahahah feck off dad!

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    Didn't realize it was that similar, he sounds like Daffy Duck speaking portuguese.

    I'm from northern Portugal and I'll have a better time understanding strong english or spanish accents than some portuguese accents from the south, the islands or even some strong local accents in the north so I'm not really the best person to talk about these things.
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    I find Spanish sounds quite informal and street. I am a Spanish illiterate though...don’t know any apart from, muy bien, hola, vamos and hijo de puta.
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    How similar are Castellano and Catalan?

    Btw I learned Spanish for 4,5 years. Left it, didn't use it until recently, found a nice website, Wlingua where I learn it now every 2, 3 days. It's great, recommended by a friend who is speaking fluently now. :)
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    Chupe mantequilla de mi culo.

    Add that one to your knowledge bank.
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    I can't distinguish any of the Spanish languages. I know I sometimes can understand it, other times I can't (spoken, I mean). Most Portuguese can, but to me all Spanish languages sound the same, or I have never paid attention. As an Azorean I've been far less exposed to it than continental Portuguese, so that might be it.

    Also OP, you've failed to list the most widely spoken one... Spanish (or Castilian).
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    Muchas Gracias.
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    In my experience, if you want to visit Catalonia, practice your English, not your Spanish :lol:
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    Then I'm already good. :D

    Was in Barcelona 2 times already, Madrid once. My big wish next time are Andalucia and Basque country.
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    As you know, I'm in Spain (Bilbao) at the moment and trying to pick up the language as I go along.

    Unfortunately, in trying to say mantequilla/butter I missed some letters and instead said "manquillas". Turns out that's Galician for nipples.

    I have absolutely no chance with the Basque. Some words are just the same as the Spanish with different spellings - Basque uses lots of Ks and Xs, for example. The rest is completely alien to any other language.
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    Arruda Love is in the air, everywhere I look around

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    No... until 1128 (formally recognized in 1143). Portugal is one of the oldest countries in Europe (at least one of the oldest, if not the oldes, stable borders), and far older than Spain itself. Portugal as a kingdom south of Galicia was founded in 1143, and a century later it had expanded south to pretty much the configuration it has now.
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    Everybody in Catalonia knows Spanish, the only ones that don't are newcomers that eventually they will.

    All people that had been in school knows catalan, the rest it depends on how interested you are in the language because with spanish you can get by without a problem. I think a big majority knows catalan to a certain degree.

    At home a bit more than 50% they speak spanish. and around 40% catalan. The rest other languages.


    70 years ago it was almost all catalan, but catalonia is a big focus of immigration, first in the 60-70 from other parts of Spain, later from southamerica and northadfrica mainly. So we past from 2 million people 100 years ago to 7.5 now.

    Spanish government, stupiditly will say that we forbid spanish and that is being lost, when is the opposite

    Catalan and Spanish differs as much as any other romanic language (French, Italian, Portuguese, Romanian, Galician, Occitant (Gascon - Aranese), Romanx, etc...)

    So if you know one of them is easy to learn another one (depends on your hability with languages) As I could get by with portuguese after 2 weeks in brazil, french after a month in france and can understand 80%Italian if they speak slow, Though I am fully natural bilingual in 2 romanic languages so it makes it even easier
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    Interesting video about Basque.

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    Hola chico. ¿Como estas? ¿ Que pasa? :D
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    I have been to Cordoba and Seville. They speak a very fast spanish from what i could hear.
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    Well, northern Portugal is basically Galicia from what i could understand.
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    Where are you from? Spanish from Spain to an American sounds much more formal and even sounds gay with the lisps. Mexican Spanish is a lot of casual cursing/slang/dirty innuendos which is what we get in California.
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    I am trying this Wlingua :D
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    I strongly recommend to visit Andalucia. It's just beautiful. You absolutely have to vist the historic centre of Cordoba :drool: