Leeds United discussion | Staying in The Championship

Discussion in 'Football Forum' started by Samid, Apr 24, 2018.

  1. Jan 18, 2019

    Bastian Full Member

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    Oh, I'm not saying he's the messiah or anything of the sort. Just that he is clearly very intelligent and obsessive. He probably wears out his teams through being too relentless. A short-term manager.

    The way his Bilbao team destroyed us in Europe was a sight to behold.
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    amolbhatia50k Sneaky bum time

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    They were wonderful against us. One of the most exciting away peformances I can remember at Old Trafford.

    I just find it hard to buy into all the hype. He's 63 and managing Leeds United. If he's been influential I'd like to know more about it and anybody who is dedicated to his craft gets a thumbs up from me. However, he's managing Leeds and either his achievements are not very notable or I'm ignorant about them. I imagine he has other shortcomings other less intricate managers don't have who beat him in those areas.
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    Bastian Full Member

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    Yeah, I think the shortcomings are the relentlessness his approach involves which might lead to early burnout for the team and squad morale. Obviosly at Bilbao he did very well and with a very limited budget and an extremely limited pool of players to recruit. His maverick character probably puts off bigger clubs but top managers rate him very highly (Pep being one). But you've got to admit that coming into the English game at the Championship level and getting them to play the way he has, all buying into his approach, top of their league, is very impressive. It's not like he got loads of money to buy his way forward like almost every top manager has done.
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    Danny Roberts Full Member

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    He's done an amazing job and especially as they've had more than their share of injuries. Like Pep he's also proved good at playing players in different positions and improving them.

    Not sure what happened at Lille but he's clearly very intelligent, hugely influential and doing a top job.
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    amolbhatia50k Sneaky bum time

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    I'm sure he deserves a lot of credit. As do the likes of Eddie Howe for their similar achievements. But I don't understand the last line. Are you saying getting promoted etc like Howe has done (and beyond to be fair), Bielsa could possibly do, and others have done many times before, is more laudable than actually doing enough to be hired by a top club and then succeeding at said club while (obviously) spending lots? It's pretty unfair to diss the bigger achievers in the field because they 'spent their way' forward. I mean, the most likely reason Bielsa couldn't spend his way to success is because his was never seemed good enough for a big club and the likes of Bilbao, NT jobs and Leeds is more his level.
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    Bastian Full Member

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    I'm not slighting Howe or Dyche and the likes, but I do think there has been a lot of mediocre British managers around. Part of that problem is employing the same people again and again, even when they've shown they cannot really do anything significant, which stifles the pathway for people like Howe.
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    André Dominguez Full Member

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    IMO Bielsa is quite a good manager:he has a lot of knowledge in football and sports science, but his man management sometimes fails. Plus he has some difficulty to accept that the club needs to sell a couple of good players to keep the balance on positive and sometimes the first choices will prefer to go to other clubs.

    He faced this kind of problems at Bilbao and Marseille poorly and unprofessionally. I think with the right staff behind him he might do a very good job. Someone who can cool him down and keep the discipline in the dressing room.
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    Bastian Full Member

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    Incidentally, that's what I think Faria was to Jose.
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    amolbhatia50k Sneaky bum time

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    Cant disagree with that.
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    MoskvaRed Full Member

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    His teams seem to have a lot of energy (Leeds included from the few times I’ve seen them this season). I think spying on the opposition might not be the only rule he is bending.
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    UnrelatedPsuedo I pity the poor fool who stinks like I do!

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    He’s fun. Innovative. Passionate. An absolute football romantic. He’s a purist.

    It’s not hard to love him.
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    It is only January his teams usually burn out by the end of the season.
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    redIndianDevil Full Member

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    I don't think he cares much about trophies or anything. All modern coaches are influenced by his football philosophy, that will be his success. It's because of guys like him that football is exciting to watch.
  14. Jan 19, 2019

    Snow Somewhere down the lane, a licky boom boom down

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    Spying gives you information about the small changes a manager makes to his team before they play you.

    Have the press caught anyone else doing it?
  15. Feb 2, 2019

    Samid follows Pogue around, fixing his images

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    On course for their annual bottle job?
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    Shaidabdullah Hussain New Member

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    Well deserved win for Norwich. I think they play better football than Leeds overall and would be a much better addition to the prem than that scummy lot.
  17. Feb 2, 2019

    Nero Full Member

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    One can hope. feck 'em.
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    Kag Full Member

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    I think they’ll fall apart.
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    Mr Pigeon baldy fatty bum bum

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    Come on, show a little sportsmanship.

    Actually, no feck that because they're utter cnuts. Sorry, as you were
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    Schneiderman New Member

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    Sheffield United was a much harder game last week. 5 defeats in 7. Leeds are fecked.
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    Samid follows Pogue around, fixing his images

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    Down to third now. 5 defeats in 10.
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    Adisa likes to take afvanadva wothowi doubt

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    Bielsa doing Bielsa things.
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    Djemba-Djemba Full Member

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    I'd love a Leeds collapse and them failing to get promotion.

    They seem to do this almost as often as Derby.
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    FootballHQ Full Member

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    Not a lock for top 2 at all anymore.

    Could still win the play offs of course although they didn't beat Pulis Boro so that would be tough match up for them. Also lost 4-1 at West Brom.
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    Trizy New Member

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    Always gonna be impossible to keep up that work rate. Surprised it took them til January to drop off.
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    Nero Full Member

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    Lovely
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    KC ROYAL Full Member

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    I thought they were almost certainties to either win the Championship or be runner's up but things are very tight at the top, looks as though it could go to the last game for the top two spots, Norwich and Sheffield United are keeping up the pace, and West Brom are tucked in just behind.
    Could be a real case of squeaky bum time in the finish to the season in this League.
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    Alabaster Codify7 Full Member

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    I actually wanted them to be promoted. Doesn't look too likely now. Championship is bloody ruthless isnt it!
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    SquishyMcSquish Full Member

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    Yeah, this basically always happens. He gets hailed as a genius after a flying start (see Marseille as the best recent example) and everyone loves his wacky ways, but inevitably it will go sour results wise and then the likelihood is he'll start pissing people at the club off and walk away in a huff.
  31. Mar 16, 2019

    Samid follows Pogue around, fixing his images

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    Losing the plot.
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    Catt Ole's at the wheel!

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    How so?
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    12OunceEpilogue Full Member Scout

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    Jansson in the nets :lol:
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    Rajma Full Member

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    :lol: From CB to Forward to GK in the space of 15 minutes.
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    12OunceEpilogue Full Member Scout

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    Then back to Forward for that last minute corner
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    Djemba-Djemba Full Member

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    Lovely seeing them lose.

    Hope they never come up.
  37. Mar 16, 2019

    PlayerOne Part of first caf team to complete Destiny raid

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    Yup, their fans were getting very annoying. They were acting like they're the City of the Championship. Would be nice to see them stay down and sack Bielsa
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    Samid follows Pogue around, fixing his images

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    Dropped out of the automatic places. 17 shots, 0 on target.

    GK with a crazy red. Injured CB moving up to CF, then forced to play GK and going up for corners in the end. Mad end to the game.
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    Sir Scott McToMinay Full Member

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    Most overrated manager in the game.
    If he wasn’t so eccentric no one would rate him so high.
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    Catt Ole's at the wheel!

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