Leon Bailey

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  1. Feb 4, 2018

    pascell Full Member

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    Iirc we were linked with him when he signed for Leverkusen and it was €20m I think. I think he'll go for around €50m with add ons in today's market. Pulisic would be double that considering what Dembele went for.

    Hard to say who has the higher ceiling as Bailey has been consistent but a year older than Pulisic. It'd be interesting to see whether Bailey can build on it next season, or if defenders find him out so to speak. The problem would be if he does build on it then he'll cost a lot more.
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    amolbhatia50k Sneaky bum time

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    At this age these stats aren't very important. Natural talent and potential are the crucial aspects to consider.
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    Adam-Utd Part of first caf team to complete Destiny raid

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    Pogba? Lukaku?

    Yes OK they aren't 17/18 but he would have bought Mbappe if he had the chance. Jose just likes good players, doesn't matter how old they are.

    It's just usually players at their best are 26+
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    Rossa Full Member

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    So now we bump Liverpool possible transfers for the summer, in February?
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    Salah replacement? :drool:
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    Says they're British passport holders but does it not require them to have been born in England for him to be eligible? Not sure on this...
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    MyOnlySolskjaer Creator of Player Performance threads

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    Acole9 Outstanding

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    The thing I'm most surprised about is that he hasn't made a senior appearance for Jamaica yet. How have they not called him up?! Or is he waiting for something better to come along.
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    JustFootballFan Thinks Balotelli & Pogba look the same

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    He´s basically told them that they are too shite and amateurish for him to travel that far all the time. He offered his services/passport allegiance to the highest bidder already. Seems England holds the easiest pathway, if the reports are true.
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    Would be pissed if Germany helps him develop into a great player and he ends up playing for England even if he's never played football there :lol:
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    Let's down hm, left footed winger :drool::drool::drool::drool:
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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's Scout

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    He can only play for Jamaica or England I think. Was not in Belgium long enough and nowhere near long enough in Germany to play for them.
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    fcbforever Banned

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    Can't even play for England currently. He's got english relatives, but to far away to be recognized by FIFA.
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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's Scout

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    He has two English grandparents from what I've read. You only need one.
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    Classical Mechanic Full Member

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    Were they UK residents or just UK passport holders because they were born before Jamaican independence? If its the latter the link would be tenuous as to him playing for England. And with all the top prospects coming through in his position, it would be a little bit controversial to bring him in I think.

    That said, we need another decent wide player right now. Sterling and Rashford isn't good enough as a sum total of our options. Shame we bodged the Zaha situation.
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    Looks like a player that can fill our RW needs...one to watch
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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's Scout

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    Jamaican independence was 1962. Depends if his grandparents are over 56!

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    here's been a few paper reports saying he is eligible to England, it's not beyond the realm of possiblity that they could be wrong!
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    That would be a smart move by the English national team but an absolute joke in regards to how it's supposed to work.
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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's Scout

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    Other nations have been nicking players better than those they have actually produced using the grandparents rule for years. Not sure why this would be any more of a joke.
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    Classical Mechanic Full Member

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    It's also very possible that his grandparents were born or live(d) in the UK as many Jamaicans do.

    Spain do it and so do Germany I believe.
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    fcbforever Banned

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    Not exactly. The need to be born on English territory. So, being born on Jamaica probably isn't enough for his grandparents even if it was English *at the time*
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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's Scout

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    For the purposes of this issue, if they were born in the UK then that's enough for him to be eligible. Where they lived is kinda irrelevant.

    Were they born in the UK? Was Jamaica considered part of the UK when they were born? If the answer to either of those is yes then he's eligible (per the current rules).
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    Classical Mechanic Full Member

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    It's very possible two of his grandparents were born here given the first wave of Caribbean immigration in the 50s & 60s.
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    I think the one time that Germany did this was Paulo Rink in 1998 who had a German born grandfather.
    Then there is the case of Cacau who lived in Germany for so long and felt so at home that he applied for the German immigration forms etc before he was ever in the debate for playing for the German national team. At the time he played for Germany he had already lived in Germany for 9 years straight. Now, 9 years later, after the end of his career, he still lives in Germany.

    Bailey on the other hand has neither lived in England, nor were any of his relatives born in England as far as we know. He supposedly had 2 grandparents who had british passports due to colonialism but not because they actually lived in the UK. During his life he's lived in Jamaica, Slovakia, Belgium, Austria, and Germany. Yet he's being talked about as a possible world cup player for England? I think it's really stretching what should be considered fair game within the rulings surrounding national team eligibility.
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    fcbforever Banned

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    True. But the question I'm asking myself is: if that was the case, why hasn't he gone that way already? If he has such a clear path, why is he even still talking about playing for Belgium or Germany after 5 years of living there. So there's reasonable doubt.
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    JustFootballFan Thinks Balotelli & Pogba look the same

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    Sean Dundee also took German citizenhsip with the intent to become a full-timer, but he only made it as far as one Germany B team appearance. Those early 2000s were truly desperate times. :(

    Cacau is also the current head of integration for the German football federation DFB.
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    Classical Mechanic Full Member

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    It’s rumour at the moment so we will have to wait and see.

    There is a tradition of Jamaicans playing for England and some cultural links between the countries (Queen is head of state there etc). Raheem Sterling was born in Jamaica.
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    limerickcitykid There once was a kid from Toronto...

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    There was a big write up on Reddit a month back on the topic by a Jamaican who claimed to know all about Bailey and he says he isn't eligible for England. His adopted father / agent is using all these countries saying he can play for them to get money from the Jamaican FA. I'd be staying away from him purely because of the father.
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    Mainoldo Full Member

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    If you are Jamaican and live in the UK. I’m sure it’s not a surprise this is a possibility. I’m sure he’ll have family all over the UK not just grandparents. However my guess is one of his grandparents have a UK passport.
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    Minkaro Full Member

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    I just did a quick search on Reddit, and found this post on a Jamaican football forum: http://www.thereggaeboyz.com/forum/...flat/Number/354073/page/1/fpart/96#Post380112

    It might not be exactly the post you were referring to, but it probably covers a lot of the same ground.
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    Classical Mechanic Full Member

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    It all depends on if this source really knows his family heritage. It does seem like his agent is playing silly buggers though.
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    limerickcitykid There once was a kid from Toronto...

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    fcbforever Banned

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    Lot of bullshit in there. What he's saying about the grandparents clause is 100% wrong for example.

    "If one of your FOUR grandparents or TWO parents is not English born, you WILL NOT QUALIFY FOR ENGLAND BY ANCESTRY."
    This is just bullshit. You just need one grandparent or parent.
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    DWelbz19 Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    limerickcitykid There once was a kid from Toronto...

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    That's what he says. He just doesn't word it very good. He is saying 1 of your 4 grandparents or 1 of your 2 parents, which is true. So of the 6 of them 1 needs to be.

    Literally a sentence before he words it a lot better.
    "Bailey was not born in the UK, and therefore could only qualify for England by virtue of having an English-born parent or and English-born grandparent."
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    Aside from Pulisic being the obvious talent we should go for in the Bundesliga, that Amine Harit kid also looks more impressive than Bailey
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    fcbforever Banned

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    it's not, what twisted logic are you applying here?