Discussion in 'Football Forum' started by cesc's_mullet, Nov 14, 2008.
Can't do it on a wet windy night in London.
They're also dependent on him to create for others.He's too good but it makes some of his teammates trust him too much to do everything on his own.
Not sure if serious.
I'm going with a no.
Might explain the lax finishing of the other players somewhat.
I saw this on Twitter as a joke but it's surprisingly accurate. He had to drop deep in order to create something and was swarmed by the entire Chelsea team every time. Still played very well considering it.
I think we're all getting a bit side tracked from the fact that Chelsea parked a fecking aircraft carrier tonight. They've always been good against Barca, because they're a big team, who mix it up, and don't attempt to play against Barcelona.
Anyone alien to the Spanish keep ball game from a young age is never going to be able to play them at their own game. Chelsea know this. Us and Arsenal don't it seems.
Spot on. I wonder what Abramovich makes of this - seeing all his billions spent and yet his team is nowhere near his "dream team" (Barca).
Tbf, if Barca was anywhere near half their best, it would have been a walk in the park for them tonight. One of the most undeserved victories I've seen this season, but you make your own luck I guess.
Exactly. Chelsea might have played like Stoke and succeeded that way but Stoke wouldn't because they don't have the players to pull it off. Crouch would have his 1 in 30 great games. Etherington and Pennant would have to have their game faces on big time and a lot of defenders would need to refrain from stupid fouls they would normally concede. Wouldn't happen.
Bayern could succeed against Barcelona like Chelsea do. They have a physically strong team as well. We definitely don't.
The number one way to beat Barcelona though is still the fact that Barcelona will need to miss their chances. Fabregas, Sanchez and Busquets all missed very very good chances.
That Drogba should be upside down. Besides that, spot on.
He must feel perplexed.I mean no amount of money will his Chelsea team play like Barca (well unless he buys Barca and forces all of their players to somehow play for Chelsea )
I don't know how he feels, but all my Chelsea mates are stoked (unfortunate phrasing)..They know they're a good few sandwhiches short of the CL picnic, but they beat them the only way they were going to. Fair play them I say. They'll get raped in the 2nd leg, but they did basically a harder version of what we did in 08. It's gotta be done. There's only so much aesthetic pleasing you can do against a superior side.
back to messi
he is to blame for chelseas goal, he lost the ball in a dangerous place
Partly to blame yes. Mascherano didn't do well either and Valdes was poorly positioned.
Mascherano made the fatal mistake by leaving his man though.
at first i thought that, but if you look what drogba did -how great he moved-, i think it was imposible for mascherano to cover him, the only thing mascherano could try was to intercept the ball, wich he couldnt
it was a brilliant counter attack by ramires and drogba, started by messi's mistake
They are missing Villa in this kind of games. Playing fabregas upfront isn't best thing to do.
I don't agree. He was drawn to the ball when Puyol was already stepping in ahead of him trying to block Ramires off, all he needed to do was stay with his marker. You can see him realizing after a Puyol hand gesture I believe that he was out of position and by then he was scrambling back but too late.
Of course Messi was at fault for losing the ball, especially in the position he did, but it always annoys me when people solely blame the person losing the ball 40 yards upfield for conceding a goal, as if that excuses the defense for not dealing with the counter-attack...
Agreed. For all their strength they lack a striker who could get at the end of their plays. They could play Sanchez and Pedro there but a natural striker like Villa is still going to do much better than that. They will definitely invest money in the Summer though.
We do that when we played them in a two leg tie, the problem is when we have to attack them in the Finals, or risk penalties, we get torn apart.
Harsh dude, he lost the ball in Chelseas half.
There another couple of big mistakes before the ball goes in the net
That was the Rikjaard/Deco as playmaker team though, so don't really know why people keep bringing them up. Also didn't have Alves, so that's three very key things changed.
Tried to take a player on and lost it exposing his side massively. Was poor.
In Chelsea's half.
It was poor, but he got the ball in an awkward position seconds after injuring himself.
The real culprits are Puyol and Mascherano who both followed the same player and left Drogba free 6 yards out.
sign him up!!
mate, i love messi, i think he is the best, but yesterday when chelsea was trying to play long balls, lionel gave them the mother of all long balls, with all his team in attacking position and no one to back him up
Dont get me wrong marcos. He has to take some of the blame, but I think its a tad harsh to lay the blame soley on him is all I'm saying
That was Mascherano's Sunday league moment chasing after Puyol and leaving Drogba unmarked - he's not a CB. Valdes should have saved it as well if he hadn't gone with his feet.
To be fair Drogba made him look silly a couple of times
Big game bottler.
He's past it. Lacks motivation. Has won it all, wants a new challenge.
Played like a bastard.
So anyone still think I don't have a point about his penalties?
Had a poor game tonight by his standards, nothing seemed to click for him like it usually does.
Bottled it tonight. Worst player on the pitch.
Gave the ball away too many times and missed a few absolute sitters and a penalty.
Couldn't have picked a worse moment this year for taking a form crisis.
feck his standards, he was plain old shit.
Bottled his last 3 big games.
And this is one of those posts that has nothing to do with the thread.
What the feck is wrong with you?
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