Liverpool - 2017/18

Discussion in 'Football Forum' started by Rafateria, Jun 4, 2017.

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    RobinLFC Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    I don't think anyone went along or agreed with what BigSky said, I even asked him for sources and he didn't really come up with any reliable ones. This "it's a done deal but drawn out to appease fans" is pure bullshit as well.
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    KM I’m afraid I just blue myself

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    Stop talking in text form please. You've done it multiple times in this thread.
  3. Jul 16, 2017

    johnny boy Liverpool Fan

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    We aren't sure, I don't think that's the way it's coming across from us. Clearly he is one of Klopp's main targets but what's going on behind the scenes is just rumour.
    Whether we sign him or not I don't think anyone can say at present with any real accuracy.
  4. Jul 17, 2017

    BigSky Banned

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    Firstly, apologies for the late response to points put to me, but I have restricted activities as I joined recently. Only 3 posts per day!! No two transfers are the same. Why do you think the transfer window stretches from July 1st to August 31st? When a team is reluctant to sell, it makes it harder for a buying club to tempt/negotiate the sale of that player. What Southampton and Leipzig get from this is approximately £65M each. Neither clubs are Manchester City or Chelsea that they can decline such an amount, especially when both players concerned want to leave. No club wants to keep disgruntled players. Southampton has already bought Bednarek as their new CB.
    Secondly, I'm not relying on any media outlets for my information. I am just relaying what I've been told. Football has changed dramatically when they used to dictate to the players. Players have the ultimate powers these days. No manager wants a situation when a key player is not motivated to play when his "dream" has been shattered. I am not implying that Keita falls in that category, but regardless of how rich a club is, every player has a price. Why did Manchester United - the richest club in the world, allow the sale of Ronaldo when even your esteemed manager stated that he wouldn't "sell a virus to Madrid?" There's also a difference between how much Forsberg is and how much Keita is worth. Money talks for every player. But, only time will tell re Keita especially, and either myself or Nostradamus will get pie in the face. Someone also stated that Liverpool supporters were making up stories re Manchester City and Chelsea also in the running for van Dijk. Guys, it's common knowledge in the media that they had also approached Southampton for the Dutch CB.
  5. Jul 17, 2017

    roonster09 Full Member

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    You are arguing about completely different point here. You said deal is agreed is principle and all this is just posturing, when Liverpool spend 130 Million on 2 players why aren't they with Liverpool preparing for next season?
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    Rafateria Full Member

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    Lucas to Lazio for £5m. Done deal. We are now light a midfielder and/or a CB ....... hmmm
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    RobinLFC Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    Kicker reporting today that Keita has accepted his future at Leizpig, and I think they're quite well respected in Germany. Looks a lot less likely to be done if that's true.
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    I was just responding to your comments from the previous evening. I also said "deal agreed in principle" Do you not understand what that means? After all this time Ragnick saying, Keita, is not for sale at any price, he's disappeared on holiday because Leipzig has relented. I've been told that the fee has been agreed and it's a matter of time - terms of payment need to be agreed as Leipzig want payment in 2 tranches and a 'sell-on-fee' inserted. It's just that the process takes time due to the size and back and forth of the transfer.
  9. Jul 17, 2017

    roonster09 Full Member

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    I have a big issue believing "fee agreed in principle" and not pushing the deal to completion when you are spending 130 Million on 2 players and both missing preseason.

    If the fee was agreed we would have heard lot of stories about it, not the ones about bids being rejected.

    Than then @RobinLFC posted that Kicker is saying Keita is staying at Leipzig.
  10. Jul 17, 2017

    cyberman Full Member

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    Nice to see that the ITK bullshit isn't solely a Utd blight on here.
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    Would be funny if the scousers end up making a public apology to Leipzig too.
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    roonster09 Full Member

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    Why would they? Deal has been agreed in principle.
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    Varun Full Member

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    That's not what I've heard though. My sources tell me Kieta and Van Dijk are just a smokescreen while you're relentlessly working on signing Tom Huddlestone and Assou-Ekotto.
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    Varun Full Member

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    Few days more and Kieta will have to block Klopp on WhatsApp for his own sanity.
  15. Jul 17, 2017

    Cassidy Not to be confused with Cassady the Liverpool fan

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    :lol:
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    Rafateria Full Member

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    Model pro. Good luck to him in Rome.

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    johnny boy Liverpool Fan

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    Shame Huddlestone has already agreed to go to Derby, another one passes through the net.:)
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    Cassidy Not to be confused with Cassady the Liverpool fan

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    I'm really confused about how many Liverpool fans I know are so adamant that they have heard this Naby Keita deal is done.
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    Varun Full Member

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    Shame, probably needed more videos from Klopp. Thankfully for you, all it'll take is a redtube link for ekotto to sign a contract till 2027.
  20. Jul 17, 2017

    KM I’m afraid I just blue myself

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    It's strange that how no players are seemingly putting in transfer requests. Perisic, Morata, Keita, VvD, Sanchez etc all want to move but is not ready to force the move like players have done previously.

    I don't think RBL will sell Keita though. Money isn't an issue for them and they want to create a dynasty.
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    Rob New Member

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    Maybe it's something about them losing some kind of bonus or any kind of money, if they put in a transfer request. Especially Sanchez, VvD and Morata must be yearning to go somewhere else.
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    I always wonder why is it every time a discussion with Liverpool fans always revolve around pogba and his fees. It's like they cannot find anything else to discuss.
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    Klopper76 Full Member

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    It feels,like United fans bring that up more than Liverpool fans do.
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    AltiUn likes playing with swords after fantasies

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    Was something of an icon for Liverpool fans wasn't he? Must say that video he did with Henderson(?) was very good, where they were giving away signed shirts or something like that.
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    Rafateria Full Member

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    Some issues there :
    a) RB are beholding to their shareholders most of whom probably don't give a monkey's about football and especially RBL
    b) Keita is gone next Summer anyway so no point trying to create a dynasty around him
    c) they are not buying top players to create a team to compete with Bayern so how do you create a dynasty if you can't even win your own league ?

    I've no idea if this deal will get done or not but I don't think it's as clear-cut as listening to the supposed ITKs or RBL's statements (which we've heard many times from many clubs and sometimes they are true and sometimes they are not).
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    Rafateria Full Member

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    Some loved him, some hated him. An average player with the perfect model pro attitude. Can't wish him anything but thanks and good luck.
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    johnny boy Liverpool Fan

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    Well you are in the Liverpool thread, fire away with your LFC discussions and questions.
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    Varun Full Member

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    Is Klopp going to resign now that you're going to spend huge money on not 1 but 2 players given the things he said when we signed pogba? :p
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    RobinLFC Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    They're all bullshitters. The deal isn't done, it isn't agreed in principle, it isn't being drawn out to appease the fans or whatever else they might be telling everyone.
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    Now that is even more bizarre, why would united fans bring pogba's fee while talking to Liverpool fans.
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    AshRK Full Member

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    I think you didn't read my post then, I did ask a question. Why do Liverpool fans always discuss about pogba and his fee.
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    Ramshock The spacegoats did it

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    He is no Pogba. Not worth the money quoted. Go for Barkley
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    RobinLFC Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    :lol:
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    Ramshock The spacegoats did it

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    :D
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    johnny boy Liverpool Fan

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    Dunno it's United fans as much as anyone who do, I suppose in relation to high transfer fee's and more.
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    PedroMendez Acolyte

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    Do you know anything about rbl at all?
    Which shareholders are calling the shots and what do they want?:lol:
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    KM I’m afraid I just blue myself

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    1) You need to learn more about RB's ownership and how they circumvented the 50+1 rule to know that the first point is absolute horseshit. They prevent non-Red Bull employees from becoming members with voting rights so normal rules don't apply to them.
    2) It's not for sure he's going next season. Just because he has a release clause doesn't mean he'll leave.
  38. Jul 17, 2017

    KM I’m afraid I just blue myself

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    Exactly what I said.
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    PedroMendez Acolyte

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    Yep. mateschitz essentially owns the club and rangnik is his trusted man who he'll listen to. In the end those two guys make all the big decisions.
    Anyone else is an advisor at best. Anyway Liverpool fans are just delusional again. In a few seasons rbl will be stronger than they are.
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    I am sorry if this has been covered in the previous pages/posts but what exactly are your sources? How are you so confident about the two deals? If anything, it seems more likely that we will have to line up another apology. This time to the German club.