Discussion in 'Football Forum' started by Adisa, May 29, 2018.
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What’s this all about?
You probably won’t, no, but it’ll be interesting to see what you do when the transfer window opens. You’d think that consistent CL qualification, now a final even and the new stadium is a big incentive for your owners to spend to consolidate your status as a big club. And considering you spent nothing last season, you should have the money to do it.
Apparently city players were filmed singing an offensive song about Liverpool. Didn’t realise quite how grim the lyrics were when I made that post. Someone posted it further up the page.
Why would a Liverpool manager deserve CL?
Ahuh, I meant not replying to the previous poster.
Aha sorry. Yes, amazing post, isnt it?
If "amazing" = "banned", yes.
I've heard you use this crap before and I've replied to it before. Go and sell Harry Kane and Dele Alli then spend 75m on a CB and 50m on a goalie. Stop being a crying baby about it. It's not hard to do.
I wasn't crying you weirdo, I was just pointing out that we straight up won't do it as a club. Levy isn't about to change the habit of a lifetime and sanction 75m on a CB and pay him 200k a week. You can do that because you have significantly more revenue and can afford a significantly higher wage bill.
Van Djik and Alisson would never have joined Spurs, unless we drastically changed our wage structure .. which will not happen.
Spurs are big and can be bigger. Your owner(s) are the ones keeping you at mid table size level. The ground will help but wage structure change will help infinitely.
Otherwise after Poch expect a few more Ramos level managers and top 4 obscurity again.
We're clearly past mid-table level. but yes I agree we need to adjust the wage structure if we want to remain in the top 4 over the next decade or so. I do expect that to happen.
The ground is all about providing a platform for us to spend more in the future, so hopefully that is what we get. I have my doubts about that but I'm prepared to have faith and see how this summer goes.
I think they'll win the CL. The narrative will be that Spurs tried hard and can be proud of themselves, and that Poch will feel like he peaked with them.
That spitting quote is bonkers
“It was tragic I guess because the people at the back died not the people who were spitting”
Title changed to jinx it?
OK, it's not a nice song obviously. But...
I thought the booing of Sterling has always been excessive. And then who was it done the bottling of the bus?
Now we have the outrage spin that this is all disgracefully unfair retaliation somehow. That's mainly my view anyway.
It doesn't make City look great but it's like X & Y is OK but Z isn't. Bit too convenient coming from where they sang the Munich song with great enthusiasm & vast numbers for 15-20 years, but now pretend that they didn't.
I don't suppose anyone in football ever admits responsibility for anything, tbh. But you definitely never really hear Liverpool Football Club ever encouraging less scally-esque behaviour from their fans. Everyone glories in it, isn't it?
I don't like it that I'm not supposed to be outraged at something just because a bunch of assholes who happen to support the same club as I do, did something terrible 30 odd years ago. Or because some cnuts can't help themselves to sing about Munich. Both of those are just idiots being idiots rather than Liverpool fans being Liverpool fans in my view. I don't condone any of those song being sang wherever it may be, but I shouldn't need to apologize because it happened either or I shouldn't refrain from telling how I feel about X or Y song just because people who also support Liverpool have been in the wrong too in the past.
That said, the collective outrage is once again way OTT as far as I'm concerned. It's a few football players singing a fecking song they picked up somewhere, 99% of them most probably oblivious about whatever it may mean. I'm pretty sure they don't know it refers (allegedly?) to Sean Cox and I'm pretty sure they don't even know who Sean Cox is in the first place. I'd be surprised if they had that kind of awareness, maybe the likes of Kompany and Sterling might have but your average footballer, no way in hell. So take offence to it all you want, but I doubt they meant it in a malicious way since I'd give them the benefit of the doubt that they're all at least good (or decent) people at heart. Just like with the Ronaldo plane picture just after Sala's death - they just don't know or don't care about the outside world like most "regular" people do. You can blame them for their ignorance but they're not singing that particular song because they have the intention to mock Sean Cox ffs.
It's just a bunch of butt-hurt Liverpool fans taking offence to whatever they can right now to paint the City players in a bad light, and they should just be ignored. Let them have their fun and move the feck on, we have way more exciting things to look forward to in the near future instead of getting wound up and thinking the world revolves around us.
When Ferguson retired I said to a Utd supporting mate, there's a whole generation of Liverpool fans who have never seen them win the league, and to not be surprised if Utd end up on a similar bad run.
We are 6 years down the line, and they look further away from winning the league than ever.
Crying in the stands is legit banter, I notice you left the Kiev line out of it and battered on the streets is nothing to do with Sean Cox. It's to do with Kiev and the fighting there.
Kompany injured Salah is a joke as Kompany missed the tackle and Mo was fine but the media and the usual Rawk victims had a good cry about it. It's completely tongue in cheek with regards to the Kompany incident because the actual original version of the song was about Ramos injuring Mo. The entire song is about Kiev, nothing to do with Sean Cox.
For a club whose supporters managed to kill 39 Juve fans, got English football banned out of Europe, regularly sing about Munich, attacked a bus containing said players not 18 months ago and whose official twitter tweeted about Munich you guys need to grow a pair.
The victim line is hugely appropriate given posts like this. Great at dishing it out but always the victims and first to go crying when some minor thing happens in return. I should add not all Liverpool fans, some are great.
Full song based on last season for clarity:
“All the way to Kiev
To end up in defeat
Crying in the stands
And battered on the streets
Ramos injured Salah
Victims of it all
Sterling won the double
The scousers won feck all
Allez Allez Allez"
Fully agree with this post. The City song isn't about Sean Cox, but I can see how it could be taken the wrong way, which means it's not a great look for the City players. But the thought that Nico Otamendi etc. know who Sean Cox is and have gone out his way to maliciously belittle him on camera is absolutely ridiculous in my opinion. They're just mindlessly regurgitating a song they've heard about a team they've fought tooth and nail against for the past 9 months or so.
Is this true?
They basically asked for songs to play at the game, some fan suggested 3 nasty ones and the club twitter said something like they are always on the official playlist or something. It's in the article which I haven't read in awhile.
Cheers, was actually expecting it to be some moronic fan who just added the word 'official' to his Twitter handle.
Absolutely laughable that they claimed they wanted to launch an investigation into how it happened, I tried to see if the results of said investigation was published expecting claims of Chelsea fans hacking their account but instead got an article about them doing another investigation a few years later about one of their youth players mocking the disaster.
Not really. Not claiming to be a victim, merely saw something that I disagreed with and commented on it. I've done the same about Liverpool and some of our 'fans' as well.
I'm not remotely upset at the words to that song.
I'm more somewhat embarrassed for you all, that after becoming the first team to win back to back league titles in a decade, your fans, and your players only want to sing about Liverpool losing a Champions League final 12 months ago.
Desperate for a rival that will never view you as a rival.
OK, giving you the benefit of the doubt re Sean Cox. How would you feel if Liverpool fans - & some players - sang about a Liverpool player injuring a City player, & also City fans getting 'battered in the streets' at a cup final. I'm pretty sure people on here would have plenty to say about it. Instead we see deflection in the shape of Heysel, & an incident relating to the LFC twitter account from over 5 years ago. My feeling is, players shouldn't get involved in gutter tribalism. We saw it in the 2008 CL final when some United players celebrated by singing about winning it 3 times without killing anyone. There's nothing wrong with celebrating your success, but you need to understand that what the City players have effectively done is to ridicule a team that took them all the way in the title race. In this age of ultra-professionalism in football, their actions were in no way professional.
Yea pretty much agree on that lyric in the song, City players singing it, and your "gutter tribalism" comment. The "battered in the streets" line is: 1) open to interpretation; and 2) inappropriate in any context. There's no need to glorify football violence or hooliganism. In a similar vein, there's a version of a Bernardo Silva song which includes a reference to Bobby Charlton touching kids. I think both lyrics are a bit pointless to be honest.
In general though, I don't have a problem at all with terrace lyrics ridiculing or taking the piss out of other clubs, it's a tribal sport after all, so we shouldn't be totally sanitising things. I wouldn't see any issue at all if Liverpool or any other club took the piss out of City getting booted out the CL in the quarter-finals, or any other previous failure (there's been enough of them...). I never had a problem with United's ticking clock to celebrate our years without a trophy, for example.
But for the two song lyric examples I mentioned above, I think we could do without those specific lines and still have two witty songs.
They are definitely 100% undoubtedly going to win the Champions League. I really hope they win....
I should apologize, my post was probably an overreaction. Not yourself in particular but the amount of rubbish being made of this by an element of Pool fans is crazy tbh. I've seen people legit try to claim the victim line was having a go about Hillsborough. Was it badly timed by City players? 100%, but just the rubbish about Sean Cox and Hillsborough probably made me post more harshly than I should have.
Oh come on. Do you think there is not worse sang in every dressing room, party by drunken players about rivals. Players shouldn't get involved in tribalism, this is a club whose supporters smashed up a bus they were on before a major CL game just over a year ago, and than have the audacity to cry about them singing a song.
We're not trying to claim you a rival, the players are singing about the club whose supporters attacked them just over a year ago. Rubbing it in a bit. You're not a rival to us, we sang park the bus last season after United, Jesse Lingard sang about us upon winning the EL. Jack Wilshere sang about Spurs. It's footballers singing a song, drunk after winning a title.
I don't think City give a feck about how Liverpool see them, nor do our support. You were a rival in the league this season, just like 13/14. Other than that, we genuinely couldn't give a feck about Liverpool tbh (though I do hope Spurs turn you over in the CL). If Chelsea are our challengers next season and Liverpool fall off the pace, they'll be our rivals for the season.
Putting yourselves on a pedestal again.. personally you are one of 18 clubs in the PL who mean feck all to us. This title win was possibly sweeter to the players and fans because of the bus attack but when you aren't directly competing with us in a title race we couldn't give a shit about you.
Not really true.
I literally have never heard Liverpool fans sing about another team other than when we're actually playing them though.
Utd and Everton fans regularly sang about Liverpool in the past when playing unrelated teams, Everton fans waving City flags and singing Blue Moon when playing Spurs ffs.
City appear to be attempting to join the rivalry, they're like the fat kid in the playground who no-one wants in their team.
Liverpool apologized after their official twitter mocked Munich.
It's always incredible to see Liverpool fans living in a bubble where they're convinced that they're the bestest fans in the world.
I'm not claiming that, but you know that dont you?
The video above your post is despicable and embarrassing, the vast majority of reds would agree with this.
So Liverpool fans are like any other fans. "We don't sing about others" is just nonsense.
They’ll beat Spurs and for the next 10 years all we’ll hear is 6 times la!!!
Well you did say that Liverpool fans don't sing about others..presumably from an imaginary moral high ground.
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