Lucas Torreira

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  1. Dec 6, 2018

    Ekeke Full Member

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    You mean an Arsenal fan posted highlights of him where he doesnt show all his fouls and diving?

    No way. Thats unexpected
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    ThatsGreat Full Member

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    Oh, yeah. Sorry, didn't watch the match. Just found his stats. He does receive protection from refs, maybe its something to do with favouring the little guy. Doesn't matter to me, happy to be on the favorable end of some decisions after years of seeing them go against us.
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    breakout67 Full Member

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    Ref called advantage at 4:30 for a foul on Herrera. Then you have his late stamp on Matic's ankle. He was also called back for a late foul on Herrera during a counter attack that's not in the video. Torreira made one successful tackle the whole game, he was late to pretty much everything.

    Next time try not to use an Arsenal based video that will show his best bits. Or better yet watch the game.
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    poleglass red Full Member

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    He's whats known in the game as a mad dog.....lol
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    Ekeke Full Member

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    That would explain it. And yeah every team will have matches like that now and again. We've had our share of matches where Fellaini wasnt sent off for an elbow, or Rojo wasnt sent off for diving in etc even in the past few years.

    But still if we're talking about this one specific match, Torreira and Guendouzi between them made a lot of fouls that werent given and when they were, they werent booked for accumulation like most players are. They got away with a lot of the dark arts.

    I dunno if this will be a regular thing for them. But it was especially annoying for us this week, especially as our best player was someone who was constantly making tackles and interceptions fairly and was stopped several times when he didn't foul his opponent for weak freekicks.
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    Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008

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    Torreira was eventually booked for an accumulation of fouls, no? Dirty little prick should have been booked a lot sooner, mind you. He also conceded a blatant penalty when he chopped Martial down without touching the ball.
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    AltiUn likes playing with swords after fantasies

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    Most annoying thing about him not being booked sooner meant he was given way more time to keep fouling away, he's like Arsenal's version of Casemiro or Fernandinho. Mind you, I won't pretend I don't like having players like that on my team as long as they get away with it.
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    the_irish123 New Member

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    Remember how refs never yellowed Ramires? I think lighter players can foul more.
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    awop New Member

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    I think the yellow was for a late tackle in front of the box but the ref gave advantage and came back to book him. It wasn't shown on camera, the commentators said it after a replay.
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    abdo99 Full Member

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    Maybe if we played smaller guys in midfield we would also get the benefit of the doubt in refereeing decisions
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    Bestietom Full Member

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    He's small but dynamite. We need a few like him in our side instead of big lumps that walk around the pitch. But Mourinho likes the big lumps.
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    sincher "I will cry if Rooney leaves"

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    True. But I would say the penalty only looked blatant on the replay. At the time it was not very clear.
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    Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008

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    Yeah, definitely. I didn’t spot it in real time anyway.
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    Craig Ward Full Member

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    Each time I've seen him, I've been impressed.

    He was mentioned in forums here as a potential midfield recruit,

    He looks a class above any of our midfielders this season that's for sure. Good little player
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    Bearded One Full Member

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    I was irritated by his antics. Bloody good player though.
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    Bola New Member

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    Except all those handball goals tgat habe been allowed to stand over the last few seasons
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    red4ever 79 Full Member

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    Good player. Every team needs one of these little irritating pr*cks in the side to wind up the opposition. Covers lots of ground, presses the ball non stop, has good technique and not afraid to put his foot in. Compare him to our two traffic cones
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    ThierryFabregas New Member

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    Well you know his gamemanship worked quite well if the opposition fans hate him for it. Yes he got his studs into your players a few times. He wasn't the only one though, I tuned in late first half and a few of your players looked like they were trying to kick our players off the pitch. I was quite proud of Bellerin and Torriera giving it back and mainly getting away with it. It was a rough game like United-Arsenal games of old. Mourinho likes his tactical fouls too. Yes by the rules he gets a yellow or 2 but United could have got more yellows. How Fellaini didn't get a yellow for yanking Guenduzzi to the floor by his hair I don't know. I missed Rashford's challenge on Holding but it looks like it's put him out for the season. But I actually enjoyed the back and forth aggression, reminds me of Vieira and Petit vs Keane and co.

    Honestly the same fans moaning about poor little Torreira probably celebrated Keane's cruncher against Haaland and every United player kicking Reyes off the pitch back then below (sadly I can't embed a vid of this...). But that's what football fans do I suppose, support your side.

    As for why he didn't get a yellow earlier. I suppose it's because he's subtle about it, he's not too blatant and refs don't want to kill the game giving a yellow for every infraction.

    All fouls aside his passing and movement, decesion making, defensive cover and russell terrier nipping of opposition players makes me very happy with this signing. Didn't Mourinho say he needed a terrier in midfield the other week?

    That's what the stats show but looking at that vid he definitely made more tackles/interceptions than that
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    the_irish123 New Member

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    Scott Parker who drinks Maté.
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    GledTheRed Full Member

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    Not the best midfielder in the league anymore?
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    the_irish123 New Member

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    Seems like this guy was overrated just because he was the first Arsenal player to tackle in the past 5 years. Completely normal player.
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    Tommy bigot with fetish for footballers getting fingered

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    :lol:

    I'm willing to give him a bit more time. He's still a 22(?) year old that's playing in England for the first time, setting into life here & whatnot. Next two seasons will tell if he's good or not.
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    Lash Full Member

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    I feel like he just burnt himself out within the first half of the season. Either needs to be able to run round like a madman all season or adapt his game.
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    Rooney in Paris Gerrard shirt..Anfield? You'll Never Live it Down Scout

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    I feel the same way but I agree that fans went overboard with him cos he seemed to show a modicum of grit. In reality he seems pretty average (might progress but I'm not really blown away by what I've seen).
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    I think he's a good player. One of the better recent Arsenal purchases.
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    MikeKing Full Member

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    I feel like that other guy with the long hair is going to have a bigger career. He is even younger, like 19 or something and even though he has made some mistakes when he has been good he has looked like a world beater. Torreira seems like Idrissa Guye level, which is fine.
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    I don't see it with Guendouzi. He looks decent but I think that's mostly because of his age.
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    Diving little wanker.
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    breakout67 Full Member

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    Classic Arsenal hypejob. Another one is Gendouzi, many Arsenal fans are convinced he's destined to be world class, and they've discounted several shocking performances because there's an easy out of his age. United fans have this type of behaviour for Martial, where there's a cult-like belief that he'll be world class, except Arsenal fans do this for any decent player they have. Bear in mind, I think he's a good purchase for Arsenal, a decent young player with potential to be good. But, nowhere near the best midfielders in the league which he was being touted as.
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    Fosu-Mens Full Member

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    For Torreiras price he seems a steal.
    Gendouzi is an unfinished product. Very unfinished.
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    I like him. Think he's much more suited to be a back up to Herrera than Fred is. Defensively sound, passes between the lines and is dynamic.
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    Mogget Full Member

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    Who said that he was one of the best midfielders in the league?
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    Ekeke Full Member

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    Both are good young midfielders who might make it longterm. Thats it.
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    antohan gets aroused by tagline boobs

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    Cracking little player, just go watch Uruguay-Portugal at the WC and how he pestered CR all game.

    Haven't watched him lately, guess he may be burnt out if people are seeing his performances dip, but he will be a top midfielder for Arsenal, no doubt in my mind.
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    MadMike Full Member

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    He's a good player. He's not exceptional or world class or anything, but he's good. He started the season very well but his form dipped a bit in the middle of the season, while still being well within acceptable levels. He's got time to grow as well, he's just turned 23. As others have mentioned, for his age and price he's been good business for Arsenal.

    Comparing his first season in the EPL with that of other midfield arrivals like Fred, Naby Keita, Kovacic, Jorginho.... I'd say he's done better than all of them and looks more likely to make it long term. Despite being the youngest and cheapest of the lot.
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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    Well Kovacic is on loan so he wasn't cheaper than him :p
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    Arsenal wouldn't swap him for Pogba.