Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)

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  1. Jun 6, 2019

    do.ob Full Member

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    The only reason I can imagine for the supposed search lasting this long is that "no one" wants the job.
    It's not like the club has to choose between hundreds of people, there is probably only a hand full of people out there who both have the CV for the job and are available.
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    Gopher Brown Full Member

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    As opposed to trusting in an inept Ed Woodward who doesn’t seem to have a clue at the moment? Yes.

    Look, you clearly have a problem with something I’ve speculated about, but I’d like to know what makes you think your opinion is worth more than mine.

    Wishful thinking gets you nowhere.
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    Infra-red Full Member

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    Most reports seem to suggest the issue is that we're not really sure what we're looking for. The so-called 'leading candidates' (in terms of CVs) haven't even been approached.

    It appears we might be leaning more towards a committee set up, as opposed to the Monchi-style authoritarian 'transfer guru' model. An ex-player (or a group of ex-players) is perhaps more likely.
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    do.ob Full Member

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    Is that actually a thing? Even in the usual setup (which I wouldnt describe as authoritarian btw) you already have to find a compromise between coach, DoF and upper management.

    I think it's one thing to have a couple of former players/coaches in some advisory role, but a bunch of them as deciders, running the daily business?
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    Red Dreams Full Member

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    Bryan Robson would be a good candidate.
    Not sure why he has not been considered.
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    Adnan Full Member

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    Cruyff and Solkjaer are best friends, so this could be a good move. The tweeter makes good points for Jordi Cruyff in his thread.
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    Xaviesta Full Member

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    Maybe he shares Paddy Crerand's strong opposition of a DOF.
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    Grande Full Member

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    Of former United men mentioned, Jordi has many things going for him. The son of Johann, he’s got Ajax and Barca in his brain and in his veins, clubs we have a lot in common with (at our best). He’s impressed me in interviews before as well. Then again, the feedback from his time at Maccabi seems a mixed bag.
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    As long as Woodward is around we won't appoint a DOF. All this talk of hiring one was nothing but a tactic to placate the fans.
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    Dong Fangzhuo Full Member

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    Not sure that's a positive.
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    Mainoldo Full Member

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    Yes especially if we need to sack him.
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    Dong Fangzhuo Full Member

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    Exactly. We need the DoF to be the one making firing/hiring decisions on the manager.
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    Lash Full Member

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    Pardon my ignorance, but does this ever happen?
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    JPRouve can't stop thinking about balls - NOT deflategate Scout

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    That's the standard setup, the DOF alongside the board have the head coach fate in its hands.
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    Lash Full Member

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    Fair enough, I thought he just had an input if they’re not fitting the “strategy” anymore, but I guess that’s the same thing.
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    romufc New Member

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    Does anyone on here realistically believe Woodward will appoint a DOF?

    I don't believe a word that comes out his mouth. Initially, a statement came out of Manutd in the lines of we are hiring a temp manager and will look to apppoint DOF before appointing a manager - didn't happen

    Then he has come out saying we have the financial power to compete with anyone - watch this space - well there is not much he can do when players in their prime or looking for a suitable career move do not want manutd.

    The club need to sort themselves out because the only people being affected is the fans. The players, CEO, and owners are happy to sit and fill their pockets.
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    JPRouve can't stop thinking about balls - NOT deflategate Scout

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    That's the same thing, they are the ones making the judgement, call then of course money considerations will have an influence but from a footballing standpoint technical directors are supposed to be the ones evaluating head coaches. By the way that's why I have an issue with the rumours from day one, when the club leaks that the DOF will be at the same level than the manager then something is properly wrong, they basically describe a COO or a chief scout which are both very dififerent from each others but also different to a technical director/DOF.
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    matherto ask me about our 50% off sale!

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    If we were going to appoint one we'd have done it by now I think.
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    Jazz Full Member

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    Haha great minds think alike:lol:

    He's a reasonable option, and certainly better than the alternative which is - no one.
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    r3idy Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018

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    This really. A lot of negativity around the club at the moment given how last season fizzled out. Makes you wonder if it was just lip service about DoF. A transfer committee would be right up Woodwards street as he still maintains rule. Its baffling because surely as a businessman, he must know the key to making money off the pitch is about getting it right on the pitch. DoF / Technical director / sporting director should have been in place in May as the last ball was kicked. At this stage, as many pundits have pointed out, I don't think United know what they want.
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    Jazz Full Member

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    He'll at least provide some objectivity.

    Look for his last interview where he talked about us. Sounded pretty sensible to me. Would more than likely insist Ole has a philosophy and help him to implement it properly imho.
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    UncleBob Full Member

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    :lol:
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    AllezLesDiables Full Member

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    It’s a collaborative process but the DoF is supposed to have the final say on hiring and firings, player acquisitions, aligning football philosophies from the youth teams to the senior team, scouting philosophies and targets, transfer kitty management and so forth.

    The DoF hires people (experts) to worth with to put the processes in place and manage them and the DoF meets with heads of the departments to have discussions about what is happening, what needs to be changed, areas that need to be addressed.

    DoF hires a technical director to address you guessed it technical aspects of the game. DoF hires a director of scouting, director of analytics, etc.

    The point being that you have one person at the top who makes the final decision but the most successful DoFs hire great staffs and step in to make the tough decisions when there is no consensus. Bad DoFs try to make every decision and undermine their staffs.
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    Fosu-Mens Full Member

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    Same as CEOs.
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    JPRouve can't stop thinking about balls - NOT deflategate Scout

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    Pretty much, the key point being that normally there is a hierarchy. The idea that the DOF is equal to the head coach borders on lunacy.
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    AllezLesDiables Full Member

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    Yep, CEO of footballing issues.
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    soaphroniscuss New Member

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    And so do you.
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    LonelyFire Full Member

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    Surprise, surprise....not expected to appoint anyone this summer (according to the mail).

    Telling you lads, nobody wants it cause the role on offer has no authority. Woodward has no intention of diluting his involvement.
  30. Jun 11, 2019 at 22:53

    2cents Full Member Scout

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    “United feel the system works”
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    LonelyFire Full Member

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    Aye, it works Ed.....those great title challenges we’ve put in past 6 years prove it.
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    dove Full Member

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    You forget all the noodle deals we signed :drool:
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    LonelyFire Full Member

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    What an utter farce this club has become. A mess from top to bottom.
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    el3mel Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol:

    :lol::lol::lol:
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    Chairman Steve Full Member

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    Why don’t we just let OGS have responsibility for reconciling the quarterly corporate balance sheet figures just to make it even stupider
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    Infra-red Full Member

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    Interestingly, no United manager since Fergie has felt the same.
  37. Jun 11, 2019 at 23:15

    TheRedHearted New Member

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    They’ve already interviewed Rooney and Bebe for that. Keep posted- should know by end of the week
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    Based on????????
  39. Jun 11, 2019 at 23:17

    AJ10 Full Member

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    Why is anyone surprised? Club is run by clowns, will only change with new owners.
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    clarkydaz Full Member

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    The club is being taken for a ride