Manchester City 17/18 discussion

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  1. Aug 11, 2017 at 15:01

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    They still need another goal scorer imo. They created 15 more clear cut chances than Chelski last season but their awful finishing let them down. If they don't get another goal scorer I wouldn't put them as outright favourites. If they manage to get Sanchez however...
  2. Aug 11, 2017 at 15:26

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    Have you seen their new dressing room? :lol::houllier:
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    FCBarca Mes que un Rag

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    Yeah, the renovations look very sharp although it's strange to see those old ceiling tiles in the shower though. The tunnel leading out onto the pitch reminds me of the one at Camp Nou
  4. Aug 11, 2017 at 16:06

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    Yeah I'd agree. I always think back to the Chelsea game at the Etihad. (Aside from the shocking decision to not send Luiz off for barging Aguero off the ball), when we were 1-0 up, controlling the game and de Bruyne missed an open net. Had he scored, the season may have played out differently. Probably not, though. Aguero and Jesus will score goals but we need the likes of Sane, de Bruyne and Sterling to chip in with a few more. Sanchez would be ideal, as you say.
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    FCBarca Mes que un Rag

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    Definitely need a goalscorer although I remain unconvinced Alexis is the right solution for that
  6. Aug 11, 2017 at 16:30

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    I don't buy it, Aguero and Jesus are two of the best finishers in the league and De Bruyne, Sane, Sterling, the two Silvas and Kompany from set pieces are all well capable of scoring plenty throughout the season. Sanchez is much more of a luxury on top than a necessity.
  7. Aug 11, 2017 at 16:37

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    Aguero scored 33 goals last season, in 45 appearances. His demise as a top striker has been blown seriously out of proportion.
  8. Aug 11, 2017 at 16:41

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    How come? He outscored de Bruyne, Sane, Sterling and Silva combined in the league last season. We have Aguero and Jesus as our natural goalscorers. Aside from players like that, Sanchez is as good as it gets. He's exactly what we need in attack, I reckon.
  9. Aug 11, 2017 at 16:57

    Santi_Mesut_Alexis_87 Full Member

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    Really? Aguero-Jesus looks great on the paper.
  10. Aug 11, 2017 at 17:01

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    ...and don't overlook John Stones, prolific in pre-season!
  11. Aug 11, 2017 at 17:41

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    I realize he's scored plenty for Arsenal, I would say this is more down to their style of play than his role as a goalscorer. At City, he'd be in a similar situation as he was at Barcelona, often key in the buildups but not always on the final pass to shoot on goal. In the end, City need to make sure they convert more than they need to create chances and that requires a goalscorer rather than a playmaker which, for me, Alexis is

    Even Pep last season says he probably should've played Alexis more as a CF at Barcelona but will that really be the role he'd play at City? I am skeptical since Alexis isn't someone who can play with his back to goal like a traditional CF or even Kun. City would be high octane, no doubt but converting more? I am not convinced
  12. Aug 11, 2017 at 19:14

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    Fair enough. I see what you're saying, however the reality remains Sanchez would almost certainly add 10+ goals to our side, and that's all we'd need from him. We don't need another player to convert chances in the ilk of Aguero and Jesus, we just need someone who is more experienced in front of goal and more clinical than the likes of Sterling, Sane and de Bruyne. Not to mention he'd create more from out wide, which is another problem we had. There were quite a few games last season, especially at home, where we controlled the game but created very few concrete chances to score.
  13. Aug 11, 2017 at 22:02

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    Don't get me wrong, we could do with another forward now Nacho has gone plus maybe a centre-half to cover for Kompany's injury issues but realistically we were never going to complete the full overhaul in this summer window. It seems we're more interested in getting Sanchez than further bolstering the defence but you never know, there might be a surprise in the offing. Ideally, it would've been 4 incoming full-backs to replace the 4 outgoing ones but maybe Danilo's versatility means 3 is seen as enough.
  14. Aug 12, 2017 at 10:39

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    Football isn't played on paper though. Aguero was wasteful last season and had his worse conversion rate since he joined City and he was one of the main problems in attack. Ideally Sanchez would play on the left. He is very flexible. City are great at getting the ball into great positions in the box but after that...
  15. Aug 12, 2017 at 12:44

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    Yet he scored more goals in all competitions than ever before... albeit with his lowest shooting accuracy which was 2% below the season before. The majority of our conversion issues were KDB who hit the post 9 times (next most in the league was Pogba with 6), Silva and Sterling (the latter two, it seems to always be a problem).
    Sergio missed 13 big chances last season but missed 16, 16, 11, 18, 17 in the preceeding seasons. His average is 15.6 missed big chances per season excluding last.

    Given his shooting % on target hasn't changed drastically, he's missing less big chances and scored his most ever goals in a season, I find the wasteful hard to believe and something of a myth that has spread on here. It was Sergio's other issues that led to him being dropped and Pep complaining about the team being wasteful that saw it exaggerated hugely.
  16. Aug 12, 2017 at 17:36

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    A clear cut chance missed by Aguero again.

    GJ missed a clear header then the follow up hit the post so that's 3.

    3rd CCC missed. Aguero with a one vs one and he took too long.

    Finally scored on their 4th(5th overall) CCC.

    2 half chances in the space of 1 minute. One led to an own goal
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    Okay yes, but, we won three points and kept a clean sheet.
  18. Aug 12, 2017 at 20:14

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    Honestly speaking they look brilliant. You never know how they carry their form though, especially as other teams lower down find their rhythm and come with a game plan.
  19. Aug 12, 2017 at 20:20

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    City looked good but Brighton were awful. Completely over awed by the occasion. We will see how good they are next week against Everton.
  20. Aug 12, 2017 at 20:25

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  21. Aug 12, 2017 at 20:42

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    Harsh on Brighton. They did what they had to, defended well for the most part and restricted us to a few clear cut chances. Individual lapses of concentration cost them. Guardiola got the team wrong, against a team like that there is no need for three CBs to be on the pitch. Should have started one of Sane/Sterling to provide some pace getting in behind. It was too easy for Brighton to sit back. But yeah, Everton will actually intend to leave their own half at some point.
  22. Aug 12, 2017 at 20:46

    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    City looked good but Brighton are certs to go down, they just don't look like a PL team (not fast enough, strong enough, have enough quality)
  23. Aug 12, 2017 at 20:46

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    City look good. Much as I hate what the club stands for, the football they play is lovely and wish United were aiming to play in a similar style.

    Have to say the defence still looks ropy though. Everyone's going to go direct against them and test the keeper. If they can withstand that they'll win the league, but if not...
  24. Aug 12, 2017 at 20:47

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  25. Aug 12, 2017 at 20:55

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    Were they actually good today? I saw a lot of today's game and they just seemed to be a bit clueless as to what to do about Burnleys deep defensive block. A lot of pointless passing that went nowhere. It was just that one time that Burnley got caught too far up field that City broke in. Otherwise I was surprised by the complete lack of penetration and ideas. Second goal was an OG.

    To me, the wingback formation just didn't look like it was functioning well. With De Bruyne and Silva as the main attackers they lacked the pentratIon a good quick wide player gives. The ball kept going to Walker amd Danilo who weren't doing much in attack. Danilo was completely pointless.
  26. Aug 12, 2017 at 20:56

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    I think they'll pick up enough points at home to stand a chance of staying up. They won't play City every week and lots of teams will struggle to break them down, I can see them getting a fair few scrappy 1-0 wins.
  27. Aug 12, 2017 at 20:59

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    Yea, and this what happened last season. Against better teams you didn't take any of those chances and then you had to start playing catch up or when they scored the momentum of the game changed. You guys need to be far more clinical. Walker looked great and Danilo slowed down the play on the left too often. I would have put him as the DM and taken off Dinho and then put Sane on the left. Dinho loses the ball and makes terrible passing decisions.

    Mendy will make your team monstrous.
  28. Aug 12, 2017 at 21:08

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    I think Burnley would have been delighted with the outcome of today's game..
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    No, I'd agree. I was pretty frustrated by the game. The line-up looked good in pre-season and I suspect it will prove very useful in some games this season, but Brighton away was never going to be one of them.
  30. Aug 12, 2017 at 22:44

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    Yeah they defended quite resolutely but jesus should have broken the deadlock pretty early. I think the 3 at the back was just a precaution but you never had to get out of first gear, I thought they were very poor and mainly concentrated on trying not to lose, no counter attacking threat at all.
  31. Aug 12, 2017 at 22:49

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    It's their title to lose. Let us see if they can win the whole thing.
  32. Aug 12, 2017 at 22:54

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    I thought they were nailed on to win this season, but I'm not that sure now... I know it's early, but get the feeling we're in for an unpredictable season.
    The amount of attacking talent they have though is something else.
  33. Aug 12, 2017 at 22:58

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    It is indeed, they subbed on B.Silva and Sane in the second half, both would most likely start for us.

    If baldie doesn't win the league with that squad he might as well stop managing. If Fergie had that squad there would be no point in playing out the matches and we could go straight to handing out the trophy, the end result would be given.
  34. Aug 12, 2017 at 23:02

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    If SAF had our team he would win, much less City's! No current manager comes close...

    In any case, yes I agree that with the players they have, they really should win. If they don't win, I reckon 'baldie':D would leave..
  35. Aug 13, 2017 at 01:09

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    Surprised it took them so long to score, Brighton were overawed. I was expecting 4, 5-0.

    I see David Silva has finally decided to accept reality as well. For a second I was thinking Zabaleta was still turning out in midfield for them
  36. Aug 13, 2017 at 01:12

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    Quality seems so high they just can't fail this year but Pep is a narcissist and will find a way to make his ship sink again for sake of tinkering.
  37. Aug 13, 2017 at 04:24

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    The bench today was the biggest factor for me. Sane, Sterling, Yaya, Bernardo Silva all featuring on the bench, and that's with injuries to Gundogan and Mendy at the moment. Compare that to even Chelsea who had 7 unknowns in the squad with 4 injuries and I think we have to be taken seriously this season. Pep has to win it if squads stay as-is.
  38. Aug 13, 2017 at 04:51

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    If he doesn't win it's a huge failure imo. Best squad and best depth in the league imo.
  39. Aug 13, 2017 at 05:31

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    They have some tough early fixtures with so many new signings will be stern test for them. If they don't get good results then Pep will be under huge pressure.
  40. Aug 13, 2017 at 06:09

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    Walker's pace will go a long way in making sure they don't get rinsed on the counter but he's an incredibly limited footballer. He's useless if he doesn't have space to run into. I wouldn't surprised if he falls out of favor with the manager down the line.

    Thankfully, Silva looked like age has finally caught up with him hence they struggled to create any decent chance through the middle untill the first goal. I hope B. Silva flops massively, I'd be disappointed if they didn't struggle to replace Silva.
    He has carried them for years.

    Unfortunately, their squad is incredibly deep and they have game changers on their bench. Injuries will be the least of their problems. Whether or not Guardiola can keep all of them happy remains to be seen though.