Manchester City under Pep Guardiola | Pep on City v Liverpool ref: "He likes to be special"

Discussion in 'Football Forum' started by Adisa, Jun 22, 2016.

  1. Feb 3, 2018

    SER19 Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2008
    Messages:
    4,816
    Location:
    Embarrassing land of embarrassed fans
    I'm not having a go at you, but I genuinely think the only overreaction in here is posts like this over reacting to mostly mild criticism. Even if there's one of two hyperbolic posts, to accuse a forum or 'bitterness' for fair criticism is being very precious.
  2. Feb 3, 2018

    Vialli_92 Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2014
    Messages:
    2,273
    Location:
    Ireland
    Supports:
    Juventus
    I don't know his reasoning for it i'm not a mind reader but I wouldn't be so harsh to get the pitch forks out before listening to his explanation

    It's strange no doubt about it I can't disagree with that

    I would think if he thought a youth player was going to benefit the team he would have him on the bench so in my opinion I think he's trying to prove a point to someone or just doesn't think any of the youth players available to him are good enough to play in his team
  3. Feb 3, 2018

    Vialli_92 Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2014
    Messages:
    2,273
    Location:
    Ireland
    Supports:
    Juventus
    True maybe I did over react but it seemed to me that there was quite harsh criticism of him and making a big deal out of something that I didn't really think was a big deal but that's just my opinion and maybe I was wrong to accuse everyone of bitterness
  4. Feb 3, 2018

    SER19 Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2008
    Messages:
    4,816
    Location:
    Embarrassing land of embarrassed fans
    Fair enough, but it wasn't just you.

    "Bitterness" seems to be the go to no brain insult thrown whenever people criticise him. It's incredible that a criticism of a manager can seemingly anger so many people so much
  5. Feb 3, 2018

    Vialli_92 Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2014
    Messages:
    2,273
    Location:
    Ireland
    Supports:
    Juventus
    Leave Saint Pep alone!!! :D:D:D:D
  6. Feb 3, 2018

    TheReligion Abusive

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2006
    Messages:
    20,606
    Location:
    Manchester
    Which is ridiculous given the money they have spent on their academy
  7. Feb 3, 2018

    Vialli_92 Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2014
    Messages:
    2,273
    Location:
    Ireland
    Supports:
    Juventus
    Yeah nothing 100 million can't fix anyway

    If they need a player they can just spend without thinking twice

    Although it has been going on for years, not many youth players do tend to come through the big teams anymore

    Rashford is one of the exceptions
  8. Feb 3, 2018

    SER19 Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2008
    Messages:
    4,816
    Location:
    Embarrassing land of embarrassed fans
    Remember when a couple of years ago people including lots of ex pros kept going on about how city are completely overtaking us in youth set up.....
  9. Feb 3, 2018

    AndersB New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2016
    Messages:
    76
    Lets say it when it deserves saying: Pep made a mistake by taking Sterling off for this Diaz fella. It was a move made in affect based on Sterling's misses, and their attack turned to sh*t afterwards
  10. Feb 3, 2018

    Carolina Red Moderator Staff

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2015
    Messages:
    12,550
    Location:
    South Carolina
    They’re proving it the same way they prove that Manchester is blue... with empty seats.
  11. Feb 3, 2018

    SER19 Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2008
    Messages:
    4,816
    Location:
    Embarrassing land of embarrassed fans
    :lol:
  12. Feb 3, 2018

    TheReligion Abusive

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2006
    Messages:
    20,606
    Location:
    Manchester
    Lingard?
  13. Feb 3, 2018

    Wumminator The Special One!

    Joined:
    May 8, 2008
    Messages:
    15,335
    Location:
    Obertans #1 fan.
    It’s a bit silly saying no one breaks through anymore when we have three players from our youth team in the squad every week.
  14. Feb 3, 2018

    Womp idiot

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2013
    Messages:
    6,498
    Location:
    chillin' on top of the Opera House
    Lingard, Mctomminay?
  15. Feb 3, 2018

    padr81 Mr. MoneyBags

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2015
    Messages:
    3,519
    Supports:
    Man City
    Well seeing as they were playing at 9 oclock last night it would be alot to ask them to go again today.

    Still I tend to agree with Gary Neville, they could have travelled and not played.
  16. Feb 3, 2018

    Classical Mechanic Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2014
    Messages:
    16,594
    Pepologists.
  17. Feb 3, 2018

    padr81 Mr. MoneyBags

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2015
    Messages:
    3,519
    Supports:
    Man City
    Interesting as Diaz, Foden, Adarabioyo, Duhaney, Dele-Bashiru, Nmecha and Grimshaw have all played for the first team this season. Lets not let our red tinted glasses get in the way of facts.
  18. Feb 3, 2018

    SER19 Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2008
    Messages:
    4,816
    Location:
    Embarrassing land of embarrassed fans
    Poor again today I thought, difference today was Burnley scored and city missed a sitter.

    City have been the best team this season without question but I feel the gap is flattering in some ways and there no way, in my opinion, they'll have a season again where so many small margins work out, and the only way is down.

    Guardiolas saving grace for some of his comments and behaviour this season has been their success to date, but I feel he's digging his own grave needlessly turning some people against him. He's shown before he's a bit mentally weak and when city go through a spell of trouble (which every club does) he will struggle again. Sure it's just my opinion, but I think when it ends at city for guardiola it will be a ball of flames.
  19. Feb 3, 2018

    shield Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2016
    Messages:
    583
    Really good match with Burnley. Both teams doing what they are best at. Sterling was playing really well. Should have stayed on despite the miss. Draw is a fair result.
  20. Feb 3, 2018

    cyberman Full Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2010
    Messages:
    11,955
    Padr you really need to take a day off buddy, you don't have to defend City over every little thing on here.
    Today is a black mark against Pep, he's not perfect
  21. Feb 3, 2018

    Traub Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2009
    Messages:
    7,839
    Location:
    South Africa
    Dropped points in their last three away games. I wonder if they're running out of steam a bit? Obviously not a concern for the league, but possibly the champions league.
  22. Feb 3, 2018

    Carolina Red Moderator Staff

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2015
    Messages:
    12,550
    Location:
    South Carolina
    Don’t let your blue ones get in the way of a little joke
  23. Feb 3, 2018

    DRM New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2017
    Messages:
    408
    Supports:
    SteveJ
    Let's hope so. Them winning the League and CL would be unbearable!
  24. Feb 3, 2018

    SER19 Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2008
    Messages:
    4,816
    Location:
    Embarrassing land of embarrassed fans
    Pogba too :p
  25. Feb 3, 2018

    padr81 Mr. MoneyBags

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2015
    Messages:
    3,519
    Supports:
    Man City
    Of course its a black mark, I even said I agree with Neville that a player could have travelled even if he didn't play. It was also a poorish performance despite doing enough to win the game.
  26. Feb 3, 2018

    FujiVice Full Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2013
    Messages:
    4,174
    To be fair, Pep isnt the only one at City to feck the youth setup (allegedy).
  27. Feb 3, 2018

    Traub Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2009
    Messages:
    7,839
    Location:
    South Africa
    Agreed, I think I'd have to stop using the Caf if that happened - the Pep love in would be unimaginable.
  28. Feb 3, 2018

    PepG Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2016
    Messages:
    346
    Supports:
    Ajax
    City still have a lot of problems with finishing their chances. Here on the Caf a lot of United fans are not happy with the attacking play of their team but funny enough City fans should be equally not happy.
  29. Feb 3, 2018

    FujiVice Full Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2013
    Messages:
    4,174
    I'm gutted for them.
  30. Feb 3, 2018

    FCBarca Mes que un Rag City Lover

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2010
    Messages:
    14,247
    Location:
    La Côte, Suisse
    Supports:
    Peace
    They had this problem last season as well and from what I have read (I missed the 2nd half) and what I saw of the first half, they were pretty wasteful in front of goal. A goalscorer, or lack of a clinical one will ultimately determine how many trophies they win this season
  31. Feb 3, 2018

    Vialli_92 Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2014
    Messages:
    2,273
    Location:
    Ireland
    Supports:
    Juventus
    Has he explained why he didn't name a 7th player yet?
  32. Feb 3, 2018

    VBI Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2017
    Messages:
    396
    Supports:
    Celtic, Barca
    The BBC said their reserves played the day before, so that would probably be a factor.
  33. Feb 3, 2018

    padr81 Mr. MoneyBags

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2015
    Messages:
    3,519
    Supports:
    Man City
    The u23's/reserves played at 7 last night.
  34. Feb 3, 2018

    cyberman Full Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2010
    Messages:
    11,955
    Pep would have known before they played last night. He either knew about the injury problems and let the would be replacement play anyway or he knew there was a big chance he couldn't fill out his bench and let them play anyway.
    Either way it's not a realistic excuse.
  35. Feb 3, 2018

    Vialli_92 Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2014
    Messages:
    2,273
    Location:
    Ireland
    Supports:
    Juventus
    Thanks
  36. Feb 3, 2018

    VBI Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2017
    Messages:
    396
    Supports:
    Celtic, Barca
    Why would he need an excuse? There's no real urgent need for a 7th sub when you'll only play 3 at most. This is really, utterly, a non-event. Best to let the players who played on Friday either rest or do recovery work.
  37. Feb 3, 2018

    Verminator Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2011
    Messages:
    5,424
    Location:
    N3404 The Island of Manchester United
    What is with "United fans" trying to shut down (valid) criticism of a rival's coach?
    I'm partisan but feck you, them and the Catalan dido.
  38. Feb 3, 2018

    breakout67 Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    4,372
    You are spot on, and it's utterly bizarre. Why is it in this thread that every time you say anything heretical about the saint of football you are accused of being bitter or told to shut up because City are winning the league.

    It's gotten to a point where Man City fans are more critical of their own team than many posters on here.
  39. Feb 3, 2018

    Switch New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2017
    Messages:
    75
    I don't understand why people are losing their minds over a six man bench - What's the difference in having an extra player there when they aren't going to play? I don't like Pep but this just seems to be a poor excuse to have a go at him.

    What great experience it would be for a young player to sit on the bench and watch the full 90 minutes with no chance of playing in the match...
  40. Feb 3, 2018

    Verminator Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2011
    Messages:
    5,424
    Location:
    N3404 The Island of Manchester United
    I don't see anyone losing their minds over it.
    Dramatic? Much?
    As for the last paragraph, that is pretty much the first introduction for every young player.