Manchester United: Have fans reluctantly accepted their team's 'B-List' status

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    I actually don't think fans have accepted our "B-list" status. It's all been part of Donald J Moroniho's disinformation campaign that started early in the summer window. Since then every pre & post match conference he has painted himself as the victim and blamed the board or the players for our poor results this season. It's no surprise a lot of people have bought into that bullshit.

    He started preparing everyone for our impending failure much before the season started. I think he knows that Pep is on another level to him and he cannot compete with his genius. So, he started with this nonsense where he has moved from taking him or City head on to castigating anyone and everyone internally knowing fully well that Eddy the idiot won't fire him unless and until we are mathematically out of the top 4. At this moment he is simply waiting for his huge payoff while washing his end of his failure to achieve anything significant with us.

    He is clearly taking the piss with lines like this. No way Eddy is not seething inside hearing stuff like this. However, he still let's this moron continue with this nonsense. It beggars belief that this sham continues.
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    Red_toad Full Member

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    Fans showing appreciation of a game where we actually had a good and played some decent stuff. Is that wrong now? Keep seeing posts where people want good attacking attractive football over dull effective football. I enjoyed the game immensely. For me United will never be a B list anything.
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    Phil McNulty is such a melodramatic fanny.
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    Raees Legal Guardian of the Football forums

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    He’s spot on for what it’s worth.
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    Our performance was not good, attacking or attractive. It was a helter skelter match where us and Arsenal took turns kicking each other and the goals conceded from both sides were comical. It was a match of very little quality. And getting a draw against Arsenal is nothing to write home about considering how terrible their recent record has been at Old Trafford.
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    Varun Moderator Staff

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    No, it just so happens that a lot of the fans are still stuck in the SAF era where the manager was god and someone to follow even if he asked you to jump off a terrace. To make things worse, we now have a manager who'll throw his own mother off a terrace if it suited him. It's a match made in hell.
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    TsuWave Full Member

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    you thought we played well?
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    Just because a lot of Man Utd fans are realistic about our chances this season doesn’t mean anyone has accepted being second best.

    Otherwise, what been the fecking point of any of this?
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    I don't think we have high expectations that you would expect from a club with our resources and stature.

    It's been this way for a while now. Top 4 is now considered a good season. It filters right from the top.
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    K2K Full Member

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    We are 8th.

    Nothing realistic about this.
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    Raees Legal Guardian of the Football forums

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    They’re more deluded than Liverpool fans. I would much prefer we have white hankie waving Madrid fans - at least they have high standards and put the club first above the worship of a manager.
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    It's a semantic issue isn't it? The word entertaining is used for both expansive performances where a team shows high quality football, and helter skelter games where chaos prevails ensuring a roller coaster experience that can be admittedly very fun. Both are indeed entertaining technically, but only one is indicative of quality that can be built on. That's the problem with language though, you keep using the same word and before you know it, mediocrity is mistaken for quality.
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    Yes, Mourinho at any other club would be booed to death. Yet our fans boo Pogba rather than the manager who has us behind Bournemouth and Everton.
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    Somewhere along the lines we have become Arsenal. Please make it stop...
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    At the likes of Real, Barca or Bayern he would have been sacked after Sevilla.
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    Yes, and realistically we’re going to finish 5th at the very best. How is that not being realistic?
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    You think we'll finish ahead of Spurs or Arsenal?
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    You’re on fecking drugs if you thought that was a good performance. It did have elements of good entertainment for the neutral though given how low quality it was.
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    Judas Open to offers

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    No idea what game you watched.

    Seems a bit of frantic scrappy play is enough to win people over. You'd love The Championship, give it a watch.
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    Santoryo ripping the reward

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    These fans clapped at the final whistle when Tottenham humiliated us in our own backyard. Are people even suprised.

    I mean they get to feel good about themselves for scoring top reds points while all I see are a bunch of guillible sheep embarrassing themselves.
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    Basically sums it up. Weak minded individuals under a manipulative leader is always a recipe for disaster. See Brexit, Trump etc.
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    JoaquinJoaquin Full Member

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    I don't know about accepting B-List status, but alot of fans standards have certainly slipped.
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    As soon as we saw supporters still defending Moyes in March/April of his reign, that fact was obvious.
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    Classical Mechanic Full Member

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    He's right. Its amazing there's no pressure on Mourinho. The bloke was OK to stablise the club but he's not a Manchester United manager in character or style. We should not be allowing him shape this squad any longer.
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    Unbelievable. I see Mourinho's defeatist attitude and brilliant ability to lower expectations have hit some hard already.
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    JoaquinJoaquin Full Member

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    That is true. When I seen Moyes still being clapped down the tunnel in March of the year he was sacked I couldn't believe it.
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    Keep feeding people shit, some will learn to tolerate the taste. Human nature.

    I would have rather we lost last night, because the season is dead and a draw just prolongs the Mourinho nightmare. Worst outcome in my opinion. We will never turn the imaginary corner under him.
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    I agree with that article. A season like Mou has at any other top club would see him getting hounded by the fans.
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    Applauding the affort that the players put in on the pitch last night does not proclude one from being dissatisfied with the manager, board, or £170m of substitutes that looked more fatigued than those who had run for 75 minutes already.

    At one point after Lukaku came on he was slowly ambling forward to press inaffectively, when Rashford sprinted past him to track back half the pitch. There is no doubt that some of the players are trying harder than others, and deserve praise for it.
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    Escobar Poster originally known as Michel04

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    Standards have dropped immensely. The fans are happy with very little. There was nothing positive about last night's game, yet some "enjoyed" that because some players showed effort? Wow
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    Escobar Poster originally known as Michel04

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    You really wonder why this is not happening and why the board just stands there looking like clueless amateurs
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    Effort is the barometer for some United fans now. Tragic really.
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    Yeah I really do not think "giving 100%" should be the standard we judge our players. We are not Millwall. Our aim should be one of the elite sides and that is not the standard you rate elite sides on.
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    Godfather Full Member

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    Well the second question is quite easy to answer. We are a shitty run club.
    feck knows why OT going fans are not turning on Mou though
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    Adisa likes to take afvanadva wothowi doubt Scouse Lover

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    The club's spirit is broken. What do you want fans to do?
    Fans can't even agree on if a manager that has just 8th with a negatiations GD after almost half the season should go.
    That the club's criteria for scaling a manager is when is cheap to do so is a disgrace.
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    Sultan السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته Staff

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    Mourinho has done an exceptionally good job of lowering expectations. He's been slow dripping us with negatives since the Summer. Blaming everyone and anything. I suspect it's because he knew we couldn't compete with the likes of Cty and Liverpool and this was a ploy to safeguard his footballing reputation. He's now making fans go against certain players.

    I also think there's an issue with Raiola clients. Mourinho and his agent Jorge Mendes are major rivals with Riola.
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    There's nothing wrong with applauding when the team does some good things, and trying to be positive. When City were awful 20 years ago, their fans barracked the players relentlessly. Went to a few games and it was terrible.

    But the fans singing Mourinho's name need to give their head a wobble. Unless they genuinely think he's doing a good job, their only motivation is looking like a great fan for the TV cameras. They're part of the problem, not the solution.
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    I think you're both right. There's nothing he says that's wrong as such but what else does he expect rational fans to do? Every United fan I speak to is deeply displeased at where we are and seem to be heading but what does repeating 'we're Man United, this shouldn't be happening' over and again get us? McNulty writes like a bloke who wants to see the rending of clothing in the stands and has been left disappointed.

    There could be more booing, there could be more empty seats, there could be more banners. Those are things other fan bases have done when their club has hit the skids, but because we're trying to support our team through it we've somehow accepted our place on the 'B-list'.