Manchester United officials looking at plans to expand Old Trafford capacity to 88,000

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What will happen first?

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  1. Old Trafford stadium expansion

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  1. Oct 3, 2017
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    KM I’m afraid I just blue myself

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    Thoughts?

    I think it's obvious the new step.
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    About bloody time, if true.
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    FultonRed Full Member

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    If true, brilliant news.
  4. Oct 3, 2017
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    Rado_N Go Broncos!

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    Would be nice if they could increase legroom at the same time.
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    AdnanRED Banned

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    I'm all for this, gives fans more of a chance to also see Utd play plus the extra money coming in always a bonus.
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    whatwha Where's my diarrhea damnit

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    About time :)
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    groovyalbert Full Member

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    Glad to hear it - rivals have been steadily increasing their capacities recently. Will remind them there is only one elite level club stadium in the country.
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    Scarecrow Requested ban until 19/12/2017

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    Not that it matters too much but wouldn't that be about 85k, after the disabled fans section is completed?
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    Unmutual Full Member

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    No brainer imo.
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    Akshay Moderator

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    Haven't they looked at and shelved plans like these a few times? Good to hear that it might be done without rebuilding the railway line and buying out house properties though, that sounds more doable.

    Also safe standing can't happen soon enough imo.
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    SuperiorXI Full Member

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    What is this new stadium technology that would prevent a train tunnel? A big fecking buldozer??? Or a magical teleporter?
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    Rusholme Ruffian Full Member

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    If safe standing came in then maybe they could increase leg room and still attain this kind of capacity? Otherwise, personally (not that I make it more than a few times per season these days) I'd rather a slightly lower capacity than what they're suggesting - maybe c75K - but a bit more space.
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    Rusholme Ruffian Full Member

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    Maybe some kind of cantilever that would allow them to go up and over the track without having to build an actual tunnel?
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    Regulus Arcturus Black Full Member

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    I guess they could, with today's technology, build up on the current footprint of the South Stand.

    Such as:
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    The stadium is starting to look pretty run-down and is certainly old fashioned. In general, a refurbishment is needed as much as an expansion, although the recent reduction in seating has perhaps shifted the balance towards adding another tier instead. Could definitely do with some more legroom one day though!
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    :nervous: I feel sick just looking at that.
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    Regulus Arcturus Black Full Member

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    I'm sure it's in the plans. Debt is getting lower so they will certainly want to add some.

    An extension, safe standing, new facade, new executive zones are no doubt all in the pipeline as they will all add debt now and make money later.
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    clarkydaz Full Member

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    interesting about ticket touts too, pleasant suprise
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    Grylte "nothing wrong with some friendly incest, bro"

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    But this is the year!
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    12OunceEpilogue Full Member

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    Great stuff, and good news about clamping down on touts.
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    Nate Dogg Don't Make Me Angry

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    About time if you ask me.

    The south stand is a mess and also makes the whole stadium look lob sided.

    I hope we decide to update the facilities and re skin the whole stadium too.

    Can anything be done about the north stand roof and the supporting metal structure...abit of an eye sore?
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    Regulus Arcturus Black Full Member

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    Yep, roof technology has come along way since that cantilever design. Should be top prio imo.
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    NotoriousISSY $10mil and I fecked it up!

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    The demand for tickets is there, season tickets anyway.

    The old match by match application system is dead in the water, so the only reason we have odd spares is because the bulk-buy approach before the season starts is shit.

    I’ve been on a season ticket waiting list for 4 years along with 4 friends.
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    Ground share with Barca?
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    nokillingmoths Full Member

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    Agreed
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    Think Mike Keegan from the Mail was briefed on this, along with a few other tidbits - that could only have come from someone within the club.

    However, the club have been 'looking' at plans for several years. It still doesn't mean there is anything imminent.

    The reduced capacity due to disabled seating could well force the their hand. Losing over 2000 seats is not insignificant. That coupled with the demand for corporate/executive seating and facilities, might see the club finally rubber stamp the expansion.

    In 2006, it cost £42m for the two quadrants in the SAF stand to be built. So who knows what doing the same, plus adding an additional, cantilever tier would cost today.
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    Ronaldo's Mum Eh? Ronaldo is shite

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    This needs to happen ASAP!
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    Nate Dogg Don't Make Me Angry

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    Hope so...the stand is a mess and view from the third tier with the overhanging roof is dire.
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    Long overdue IMO. But, it will all come down to the business case and the cost of expanding will be high due to the surrounding infastructure
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    Trizy Full Member

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    Ya, reinforced concrete and structural steel beams to create a cantilever structure is brand new technology.
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    Would Old Trafford sell out 88,000 regularly?

    Would love to see it happen. My dream is to have a season ticket 1 day as well (all in good time haha)
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    The more I look at pictures of stadia like this one the more I start to believe we could do with a new one or a massive redevelopment.

    City had their new stadium built in 2002, Arsenal in 2006, Tottenham are building a new one and Chelsea have plans for one too. In the meantime on the big European stage, Bayern opened the new Allianz Arena in 2005, Juventus entered their new home in 2011, Real Madrid and Barcelona have announced plans to redevelop Bernabeu and Camp Nou respectively by 2020. For a club of our standing and finances we were being left behind.

    We already have many issues with Old Trafford as discussed in the previous thread. The roof, leg-room, capacity, bad toilet facilities, lopsidedness due to south stand... as well as the lack of modern features like escalators, safe standing areas, screens, fully-covered roof etc.

    It's time
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    Ballache Full Member

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    would be incredible if the West Stand becomes all safe standing! Seats at OT are ridiculous and I'm only 180 cm so hope they sort that out too.
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    Hugh Jass Full Member

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    Hope they do it.
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    The main stand of the Vicente Calderón was partially built over the M-30 motorway. In theory, you need stronger reinforcement, better vibration absorption and heightened security measures (a train explosion and subsequent derailment impact could injure or even kill thousands in one go once if the stand collapses) for the freight line.

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    mitchmouse Full Member

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    but are they going to put fans so far up that they will need breathing apparatus and arctic-condition clothing?
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    ravelston Full Member

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    Isn't legroom a function of the step size in the tiering? Can't see how it could be increase without a total rebuild.