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Unfortunately now the stupid draw has lessened chances of Greenwood making his debut this season.
Haha yeah. He might rest De Gea.
I don't watch youth team so who is our biggest talent? Chong, Gomes or Greenwood?
Greenwood, closely followed by Gomes. Then perhaps Chong. Though only perhaps.
Greenwood by a fecking mile
About 2 yrs ago the answer would have been Gomes, no question. He has been someone people have been talking about for 5 yrs or so. He always stood out because his technique is lovely. That part of his game is still excellent. He has had a harder time making an impact with the U-23s. That's the next step for him to take, to make a difference. Having said that it does appears we are trying to change him from a No.10 to a No.8, more of a controller. I am open to corrections as I follow the youngsters but not as much as others.
Now its Greenwood no question. I have never seen a player so two footed. I believe Dembele is someone equally two footed. U18s has been too easy for him this year. Has a had a couple of chances with U-23s in the last month or so, still adjusting to it.
Gomes struggled to adapt last season but he’s been our best player in the u23s this year.
I watched some videos of him. Looks great. But is he no9 or no10 or winger? He is all over the pitch.
ST primarily, he drops deep a lot if he's not getting the ball. I think he's played at number 10 before and we've used him on the wings a bit recently, he sometimes switches during games, a bit like how our current first team front 3 do.
He is none of those IMO. He is a modern day forward. Has the pace/two footedness to play wide, but has the finishing of a striker. What I think most of us are masturbating over is an interchanging front 3 of Martial/Marcus/Mason.
Fair enough. Still has not stood out as much as expected, no? But perhaps thats a function of his role as a No.6.
He plays as an No. 8
You are right. No.8 is what I mean, as the controller in the midfield.
He's talented no doubt. I sometimes think he could walk into the first team and look comfortable. But he doesn't impose himself as much as he should. Sometimes it's too pretty and not quite decisive enough. He's still very young though
Angel has pretty much exclusively played as a 10 or out left for thr u23s. Not as a 6 or an 8.
That's what I was thinking. I even went on Transfermarkt to check where they thought he had played (they aren't 100% reliable on formations). We have used Hamilton + Garner, Hamilton + Whelan, for most games. The main reason DJ Buffonge got dropped was so that Angel Gomes could play as a no 10. The only two PL2 U23 games that I can find in which you might generously describe Angel as having played as a no 8 are Newcastle and Fulham, two games we lost. We used Whelan + Barlow in those matches, so you could perhaps view Barlow and Gomes as both playing as no 8s.
At U19 level this season there would be a stronger case for claiming Angel played more as a no 8 in some games.
Greenwood is quite clearly a star player at U18 and U19 level. At U23 level he has started 3 games, scoring one goal (that a PL standard keeper may well have saved). Based on his performances to date for the U23s, it would be surprising to rush him into the first team ahead of genuine first team players. The standard of football at U23 level is very low; somewhere between midtable League Two and National League, at a guess.
Gomes is probably a star player for our U23 side but wouldn't be considered one of the top performers in the division. We are currently the 2nd lowest scorers out of 12 teams, in 6th place in the table. Clearly there is a Sbragia effect but even still, neither Gomes nor Chong have done much this season that would indicate a readiness to perform at PL level.
Angel has started 11 games this season in PL2 U23. In 3 games he played wide left. In 6 games he played as a no 10. In two games you might have a case for claiming his role as being one of two no 8s, ahead of Whelan.
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