Matthijs de Ligt / landed in Italy by mistake enroute to Manchester

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  1. Jun 25, 2019

    Harry190 Full Member

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    Told ya Juventus' not paying that sort of salary. It doesn't make sense for them, regardless of what the owner's worth.
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    mitchmouse Full Member

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    no doubt we'll approach him to be our director of football
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    mitchmouse Full Member

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    unless it's news on us getting a director of football!
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    elnorte Freaky fly day

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    Christ, this idea of 'about to come back into the picture'. Who the hell gets employed to write this garbage?
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    giorno Full Member

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    Nobody. That's me. Basically, PSG trying to get in contact with Raiola to get the deal back on track. A deal that was apparently pretty much done before the sacking of Antero Henrique.

    Weird situation honestly.

    Said before but i think all of this is just Raiola/De Ligt trying to force barcelona's hand. Even the demands to Juventus and PSG are outlandish(€12m a year after tax, come the feck on)
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    elnorte Freaky fly day

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    Haha. Sorry, man, certainly no intent to insult your writing skills! I suppose I just meant the report you summarised from Sky Italy suggests that once again nobody has a clue what's going on.

    Many thanks for clarifying the finer points!
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    VanGaalyTime Full Member

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    That would be impossible. It would be about the same as Messi is making (740,000 a week).
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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    Like he was nailed on to join Barca and then nailed on to join PSG?

    At this point these briefs I'm sure are being done with the sole intention to unearth more buyers or get the players first choice (Barca) to cough up
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    RedSky likes to kick 10-year-olds Scout

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    Only the fans thought he was nailed on to join Barcelona and that was due to footballing reasons but it seems clear that he would prefer a move where he gets paid a crazy amount. Therefore it's always been a tussle between Juve and PSG and ultimately Juve are a better footballing club than PSG. No real shock if he moves there tbh.
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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    Absolute bollocks. Juve weren't spoken about as a serious destination until the last week or so
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    giorno Full Member

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    Well no, they seem to have a clue of what's currently going on: namely that juventus are currently negotiating with Raiola and tryinh hard to close the deal, but as yet they haven't been able to. And also PSG had almost closed the deal, and now are going to come back
    What? 12m net for juventus with the current tax rate would be about 16m gross. About ~310k a week. Even under "normal" tax rate it would be 24m gross, or ~460k a week

    Messi is on ~2m a week
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    InLevyITrust Full Member

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    Why a player of his quality and potential needs an agent the likes of Riola is beyond me.
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    BBRBB Full Member

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    It's a lot less than that with a special tax regime and Messi is getting 2m a week.
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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    Everything people were saying originally was he's not his agent he's just negotiating this transfer
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    RedRonaldo Full Member

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    Err... that’s abit far off... Messi is earning around 87m a year, including bonus and extras of course
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    red woppit Full Member

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    Don't think De Ligt has made his mind up yet, many things he would have to ponder. He would earn good money wherever he went, don't think that is his primary concern, but he probably needs to play in a competitive league, so he doesn't get stale (United), play in Champions League (ABU), learn from established/experienced CB's at the club he will join (Barca, or Juve), and where his partner will feel happy (probably anywhere but Manchester). His agent will be getting the best deal he can at all the mentioned clubs, but the player himself will make the final decision I believe. Still hoping he joins United, could be the catalyst that can drive us forward for the next few years before he moves on again.
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    Peyroteo Professional Ronaldo PR Guy

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    Is it true there's a special tax regime in Italy for the next couple of years that's making it easier for italian teams to give players better contracts?
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    Relfy Full Member

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    He'd be a great signing for us. One of the top prospects in Europe. Would help attract and possibly keep some players by showing some intent.

    PSG isn't much of a move up. Juve is a weird one as they are pretty stacked at CB already, so you'd assume they will shift one or two out to make room. Can't see him leaving Ajax with no guarantee of starting. Barca seems the best fit for him, especially with Frenkie going there already, but it does sound like they have to balance the books and the supposed signing of Griezmann and maybe Neymar will make that even more difficult.

    DDG
    AWB De Ligt Lindelof Shaw
    :drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:
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    RedSky likes to kick 10-year-olds Scout

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    Juventus sprang up recently granted. But once it was pretty clear that he didn't want to go to Barcelona (unless they upped the wages) it was always going to end up being Juventus over PSG imo. Juventus are one of the few clubs in Europe that offers insane wages. The question was whether they could afford the initial fee, but they've already sold almost 70mill worth of players this Summer so they have money in the bank.
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    giorno Full Member

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    Only for people who didn't live/work in Italy for the last 2 years, yes. It's meant to bring talent back into the country. Also new benefits for pensioners if they move to the South. There's more but i don't remember what, and honestly since this doesn't affect me(:() i didn't bother to know in detail :lol:
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    elnorte Freaky fly day

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    Sorry, once again I know what you mean. Just with these protracted transfer sagas the coverage is forever jumping about all over the place. It seems to have been reported several times now that the deal is done. Even the normally very reliable sources such as Di Marzio and Romano appeared been a little premature in their predictions.
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    RedSky likes to kick 10-year-olds Scout

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    There is no way, no way at all that he joins us. I'd love it, I bought into the hype initially a few weeks back but once PSG/Juve joined the race that was our chance over. But think about it with a clear head and once wages become a non issue (Juve/PSG are offering insane wages) then obviously he'd pick them over us. We can't even offer him Champions League football and there's zero certainty that will change this season either. They dominate their leagues, win endless amount of trophies and are in the CL every Season. They also have a number of excellent World Class players. We don't. Reality sucks m'afraid.
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    giorno Full Member

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    They didn't predict anything. They reported De Ligt's agreeing to move to juventus -as in, the player considering juventus an acceptable destination- and that juventus are negotiating hard with Raiola to try and get the deal done. Nobody said they'd reached an agreement and the deal was done or close to done.
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    Sterling Archer Full Member

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    And they are still not a confirmed destination. People love misery. If they actually read the journos tweets, it's clear that Juventus and Raiola have discussed the transfer and what it would take to sign De Ligt. Not finalized a deal or even an official contract bid!

    The kid os on vacation. He hasn't signed or agreed to any of PSG or Juve. What is more likely is that Raiola messages him some agent bs like, "ok I know you have your heart set on United. But here's what PSG and Juve can offer in case you're interested. Remember I only want you to get the best wherever you want to go. But know this is your worth". De Ligt probably replied that Juve is cool.
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    elnorte Freaky fly day

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    I doubt he said that.
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    red woppit Full Member

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    If you give up hope, what do you have? I think he will join Juve, if they can sort out the transfer fees etc, that, in a pure footballing sense, is his best option to me.
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    bmwwmb New Member

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    I think that there is no value in this topic. He will not join us
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    Andersons Dietician Full Member

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    I would say you’re over estimating the lure of United at this point especially against the teams that are in for him. However fingers crossed we pull it off.
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    Emptihead New Member

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    Especially with someone as hound as de lift.
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    USREDEVIL New Member

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    Really milking this transfer decision! I know defenders are important but my word this is quite a saga. He better be the Messi/Ronaldo of defenders.
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    SATA Full Member

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    Probably the most boring and underwhelming transfer saga ever whether it involves us or not. I don't really care where he moves eventually. He's not exactly a superstar or a marquee type of signing if you like
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    AlexUTD Full Member

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    Pretty easy to see that he will be a superstar and is already a leader (wich we lack).
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    André Dominguez Full Member

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    Let's see how strong his mentality is, because the Juventus players who are on lower wages bellow him will be fuming if he fails to deliver solid performances in every game.
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    Mainoldo Full Member

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    I hope he doesn’t turn out to be the next Phillpe Senderos :lol:
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    Sterling Archer Full Member

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    I'm making up an imagined conversation, had to keep it muppetlicious
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    Cassidy No longer at risk of being mistaken for a Scouser

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    100% percent think the lad has already decided where he is going and the deal is done. Where ever that is, the rest is all just drama to hype the deal
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    Lash Full Member

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    So what your saying is...he's coming?
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    Cassidy No longer at risk of being mistaken for a Scouser

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    :lol::lol:
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