Mesut Özil

Discussion in 'Classic Threads & Posts' started by charleysurf, Jun 16, 2009.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Aug 1, 2010

    dev1l Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2006
    Messages:
    6,177
    Re. Berbatov. we might have snapped him up in the kast hour but i m convinced that there was lot of activity going on behind the scene for some time
  2. Aug 1, 2010

    032Devil Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2004
    Messages:
    20,667
    What's the logic behind that? What relevance has the Ireland game got to do with bidding for a player?
  3. Aug 1, 2010

    Enigma_87 Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2008
    Messages:
    5,791
    Spurs were not that desperate to sell him. In Ozil's case if they don't this Summer they could lose him for free. The more time passes, the more his price tag diminishes.

    It's not like everybody is interested in him(which is odd), so I think we are in position to play a waiting game(if we're interested).
  4. Aug 1, 2010

    MJLD Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    11,568
    It seems like no one is interested, but that's clearly bollocks. Until someone makes a bid, anyone could be interested and Madrid, Barca, or whoever else is linked with Ozil is in the exact same position as us.
  5. Aug 1, 2010

    kps88 Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2008
    Messages:
    15,415
    *Gets comfy again*
  6. Aug 1, 2010

    Sarni nice guy, unassuming, objective United fan.

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2004
    Messages:
    33,067
    Location:
    Kraków, Poland
    It's unreadable.
  7. Aug 1, 2010

    Average Joe Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2007
    Messages:
    1,266
    Location:
    Johannesburg
    He sure likes to get his point across. He says everything twice
  8. Aug 1, 2010

    Makki QUITTER

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2007
    Messages:
    10,794
    Location:
    freguson y u rest the ginger prawn hes most import
    Possibly that our pre-season games are done after that (not including the Charity Shield) and the management/squad will be settled in Manchester after that game, therefore giving Özil the opportunity of getting a tour of Carrington and finalising the deal etc.
  9. Aug 1, 2010

    MrMarcello Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2000
    Messages:
    37,041
    Location:
    On a pale blue dot in space
    He's on his way to Manchester.

    [​IMG]
  10. Aug 1, 2010

    Suedesi Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2001
    Messages:
    13,235
    Location:
    UWS
    karlsentk: mesut özil rules out a move from werder bremen this summer (bild am sonntag). "i'm here till 2011".

    @karlsentk: özil: might just be a move to get the aking price down. bremen really need to cash in this summer

    @honigstein: @karlsentk Özil is well-advised by his agent. makes a lot of sense to stay put another year and grow a bit more. he's still a bit young


    @honigstein: Werder: selling or not makes little difference as replacement would cost similar money. also more important for them to reach CL group stage


    @honigstein: Khedira situation was different for Stuttgart, they had enough CMs already. Werder, though, need Özil
  11. Aug 1, 2010

    Lailiani (Sadly not) Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2008
    Messages:
    4,286
    Location:
    Van der Sar's saved it... United again!
    Yeah, because those quotes are new, proven or because he has already signed for us thereby proving me wrong. :rolleyes:
  12. Aug 1, 2010

    Shimo Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2009
    Messages:
    6,127
    Perhaps it's not a matter of just bidding and actually working on the deal/personal terms etc. After the Ireland game is when SAF and Gill will be in Manchester for a decent amount of time.

    Supposedly Ozil doesn't get done with his vacation till Monday (2nd) - at latest United will be on their way up to Ireland on the 3rd. Doesn't leave much time for negotiations.

    So any kind of deal being worked on or even a signing etc most logically would be happening after the Ireland game. Not that it means anything or that we are going to sign him but, the timing on when it may happen does make sense.
  13. Aug 1, 2010

    Lailiani (Sadly not) Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2008
    Messages:
    4,286
    Location:
    Van der Sar's saved it... United again!
    Well, Werder definitely would like to sell him when there's a good bid or at least extend his contract so that they get a decent fee for him next year. Allofs talking about Özil on a daily basis is proof for that, it's IMHO basically a 'come and get him' plea. But firstly, they won't sell at any price, as those quotes say, at the moment, he's basically irreplaceable and a small offer won't make up for his loss. Secondly, you can't sell a player against his will. If Özil wants to see out his contract so that he can go to Spain after this season and receive a huge signing on fee, then there is nothing Werder can do about it.

    I'm still disappointed that we didn't make a huge bid for him long before the World Cup. He is such a great talent, he's always been but in my books, the ship has sailed for us.
  14. Aug 1, 2010

    Alex Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2007
    Messages:
    41,963
    Location:
    ____
    Hell, if United can get him on a free next year, fine by me, value at its finest
  15. Aug 1, 2010

    OneUnited24 Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2008
    Messages:
    7,038
    What if we lose him to a title rival? or worse yet a club in Spain (i think thats worse because he will obiously think Spain is greater than the PS)? At £12m he is worth a gamble but our scouts/SAF seem to think differently
  16. Aug 1, 2010

    ha_rooney Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2008
    Messages:
    19,413
    Doubt it. If he goes on a free, it's more likely he'll end up in Spain with Real or Barca. If we want to sign him, it will be this transfer window, otherwise I doubt we'll get him.
  17. Aug 1, 2010

    charleysurf Obnoxious, abusive bellend who is best ignored

    Joined:
    May 12, 2006
    Messages:
    14,770
    If he wants to see out his contract this year, so that he gets a huge signing on fee, then money is his prime motivation. And United cannot compete as regards signing on fees or wages.
  18. Aug 1, 2010

    Red15 Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2001
    Messages:
    2,777
  19. Aug 1, 2010

    Devil may care Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2010
    Messages:
    10,190
    Off to City for Kaka afterall then.
  20. Aug 1, 2010

    Alex Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2007
    Messages:
    41,963
    Location:
    ____
    I'd be surprised if Jose sells Kaka, I reckon he will believe that he can get the best out of him so why sell him, and to be fair if he does Kaka is a special fecking player
  21. Aug 1, 2010

    Adzzz Astrophysical Genius - Hard for Grinner

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2008
    Messages:
    29,188
    Location:
    Jurassic Park
    Plus Kaka is well documented of having dreams of United.
  22. Aug 1, 2010

    finneh Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2010
    Messages:
    3,222
    To be perfectly honest if he gets to the stage where he can sign on a free, he will not come to Utd. He has already said he likes Spain and for free every top team in Europe will be in for him. If we are really astute we'll wait till the last few days of August (if no-one else does te same) and buy him for < £10m and loan him back to Bremen for the year. That way everyone wins.
  23. Aug 1, 2010

    MJLD Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    11,568
    Why loan him back? We wouldn't do that, there'd be no point.
  24. Aug 1, 2010

    Cina hell hath no fury like a Cina scorned

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2007
    Messages:
    41,028
    :lol:
  25. Aug 1, 2010

    Striker10 "Ronaldo and trophies > Manchester United football

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2004
    Messages:
    14,790
    true if we leave it that late we might as well make a 50,000 bid with the promise to loan him back :) Any old figures still better then nothing - it's not a bad idea as they keep him and atleast make something. That said it's not premiership experience. Kiddin'
  26. Aug 1, 2010

    Kelvin Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2006
    Messages:
    21,341
  27. Aug 1, 2010

    MJLD Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    11,568
    What a fecking shit article, badly worded and the author can go feck himself.
  28. Aug 1, 2010

    Redrage Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2009
    Messages:
    4,005
    Location:
    Mars
    This isn't happening guys, the guy is basically open to anyone of the top two clubs in Spain or England and the fact is no one has put in a bid. We've had countless interviews going around in circle basically stating "I am under a contract with Bremen and if someone doesn't come to buy me I'd honor the contract."
    There is nothing on our part that suggest we might be interested in him.
  29. Aug 1, 2010

    dogrob Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2009
    Messages:
    1,271
    Location:
    Just Watching The Wheels Go Round And Round
    Özil is going no where its been mentioned on Radio here in Germany, I know because I heard it this morning myself, that he is seeing his contract out and staying at Werder next season so it looks like the dream is over.
  30. Aug 1, 2010

    MJLD Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    11,568
    Oh, well if German radio - a much more reputed source than the rest of this media circus - says it, then we might as well pack up and go home. :(
  31. Aug 1, 2010

    dogrob Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2009
    Messages:
    1,271
    Location:
    Just Watching The Wheels Go Round And Round

    I tend to believe what I hear in the Radio on the news to any bollocks that Bild Zeitung writes that shower of idiots give the Sun a good run for there money.
  32. Aug 1, 2010

    Shimo Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2009
    Messages:
    6,127
    I like how he'll be guaranteed games here but, not at Madrid or Barca.
  33. Aug 1, 2010

    Dan Aka Lumines

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2009
    Messages:
    1,819
    Location:
    -37.3111997, -12.6636063
    Potentially 30 days more of this. I can't wait for transfer deadline day. :D
  34. Aug 1, 2010

    dev1l Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2006
    Messages:
    6,177
    Sorry but that's what he s saying, which can be different from his real intentions.

    He is throwing the ball into Werder bremen's court...knowing that they cannot afford to let him see his contract out and leave on a free. So in reality they have two sensible options, either convince him to sign a new contract or else sell him.

    imo what he really wants to say is that if ask a big transfer fee for him, he will stay there and leave on a free next season.
  35. Aug 1, 2010

    amolbhatia100 Barbiturates ain't got nothin' on me

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    44,257
    Location:
    india
    If he goes I see him going to Real.
  36. Aug 1, 2010

    Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2006
    Messages:
    69,660
    Location:
    &quot;like a man in silk pyjamas shooting pigeons
    I just can't see Mourinho ditching Kaka.
  37. Aug 1, 2010

    dogrob Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2009
    Messages:
    1,271
    Location:
    Just Watching The Wheels Go Round And Round
    Whatever his intentions and I agree that he will push Werder to either make a new contract that he dictates or walk, he is at this moment in time staying, in Focus Magazine there is a report on this where Werder say there happy, but if a offer came in and depending on Özil that he still could go.

    Özils agents and Werder have been working on a new contract, but until now they havent reached any sort of agreements according to the same article.
  38. Aug 2, 2010

    MrMarcello Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2000
    Messages:
    37,041
    Location:
    On a pale blue dot in space
    Nor will the Real Madrid board be willing to let go of a superior commercial value at this point.
  39. Aug 2, 2010

    ciderman9000000 Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2006
    Messages:
    29,644
    Location:
    The General
    Wikipedia - Punctuation
  40. Aug 2, 2010

    Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber Thus says Kemo

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2002
    Messages:
    41,940
    Location:
    Founder of IhateMakeleles.org and Gourcufffanboysa
    Exactly
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page