Morgan Schneiderlin | Everton Player

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  1. Sep 15, 2017

    Ish Lights on for Luke

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    Tis funny cos it's true. :lol:
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    saintquin New Member

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    Possibly the system we played suited him more!

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    K2K Full Member

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    I was so excited when we signed him, and I thought he would be the missing puzzle.

    My goodness, its unlikely he would have made it here even given more time.
  4. Sep 17, 2017

    The Bloody-Nine Full Member

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    He's a bit of a non entity really. I was happy when we signed him. Then he drifted into irrelevance. Then he left. And it was like he was never here.
  5. Sep 17, 2017

    Hammerfell Full Member

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    He's anonymous at Everton too.
  6. Sep 17, 2017

    Peanut Butter Banned

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    Mourinho generally knows a good midfielder and Schneiderlin offers absolutely nothing, he is a waste of a player in the first 11.

    Matic compared :drool:
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    Boycott Full Member

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    I'm not sure how much motivation players like him will have. They strive to earn a big move and when it doesn't work out I imagine there's a subconscious tendency to drop off.
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    Wednesday at Stoke Full Member

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    Minor miracle we recouped all the money we paid for him.
  9. Sep 17, 2017

    dogwithabone Full Member

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    Looks a nothing sort of player, doesn't seem to impact any game I ever see him play.
  10. Sep 17, 2017

    shaggy Prefers blue over red, loathed by Spurs fans

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    He's basically Cleverley.
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    el3mel Full Member

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    Glad we get rid of him tbh. Average and overrated.
  12. Sep 17, 2017

    OnlyTwoDaSilvas Gullible

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    Kept forgetting he was even playing. What has happened to him? He didn't do anything. When he passed the ball, he just stood still. Never moved, never showed for the ball. When we countered, he was just sauntering sort of towards the ball in a largely nonthreatening manner. He was just never any of those things at Southampton. For us, he ended up being a little bit like that, and at Everton he's even worse.
  13. Sep 17, 2017

    van der star newprawn warrior

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    Matic is what I thought Morgan would become eventually.
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    Akshay Moderator Staff

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    Koeman is absolutely the wrong coach for him. He needs to play in a system where he has much more freedom to get about.
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    SATA Full Member

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    Don't know the fuss about him when he was playing over at Soton and the caf when we signed him. Wanyama was probably the better player out of the two and i don't even rate both
  16. Sep 17, 2017

    United22 Full Member

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    Nothing player, basically another Cleverley. Really thought our midfield was sorted when we got him
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    Bojan11 Full Member

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    You are joking right?

    He had one of his best seasons under Koeman.
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    Akshay Moderator Staff

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    Yeah, but he was a different player back then. He's obviously regressed under LVG and Koeman isn't changing him back from what I see. Maybe it's harsh on Koeman, but I'm beginning to think his success with Schneiderlin at Southampton was mostly coincidence.
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    Hammerfell Full Member

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    He wasn't.
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    VorZakone What would Kenny G do?

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    He's just so uninspiring.
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    Gerald G Full Member

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    I didn't even notice him today.
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    Sly Hang Ten Scout

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    Strange, he was supposedly PL proven.
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    Maradona10 Duncan Castles

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    What matic is doing for us now, i thought schniderlin would do when he came. Its like he forgot how to play football. Maybe its confidence maybe its just a one season wonder. He was great for one season and he was controlling games and doing a complete midfield job, now it seems he has nothing inside him.
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    After seeing our players greeting him in the tunnel, I forgot he was playing. A very limited player, he gives Memphis competition as LVG's worst signing.
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    The fuss was about him being one of the best midfielders in the league, performance wise, at the time. And Wanyama wasn't the better of the two.
    He had a few very good seasons before the great season. With us, van Gaal apparently tried to transform him into a different kind of player, and his form suffered. Mourinho, for whatever reason, had no need for him and allowed him to leave.

    He looked good for Everton last season, but has, along with the rest of the team, had a pretty shit start to this one.

    Have to say, it's strange seeing so many people eager to stick their boot in.
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    Shark @NotShark

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    A nothing player, if I've ever seen one.
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    Mike09 Banned

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    Wanyama was behind everything in 2014/2015
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    ti vu Full Member

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    Disagree. Wanyama is vital as holding role, but Scheiderlin was good on his own right. He definitely the better player of the two that season. It's like Matic and Kante situation for Chelsea last season. Kante overall was better player, but Matic was vital to enable Kante to reach the height he did.
  31. Sep 18, 2017

    roonster09 Full Member

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    It's called rewriting history. Schneiderlin was class in 2014-15 and one of the best in PL in defensive side of the game.
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    ti vu Full Member

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    "He" in my post was meant to be Schneiderlin. Just tried to make sure, I made my point clear.
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    Solius Bearded Scholes admirer Staff

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    I don't remember ever watching a game where he played for us.
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    roonster09 Full Member

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    I know, your post was clear. I was talking about people who started with "he wasn't all that in 2014-15".
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    Golden Nugget Full Member

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    Schneiderlin would easily be worse for me. As poor as Memphis was, he at least had 2-3 good games - whereas I can't remember one from Morgan. Memphis also came from another league whereas Morgan had already been playing in the Premier League
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    Mike09 Banned

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    That's a silly comparison. Kante is top but Schneiderlin is nowhere near but just a mid table level. For example, how did we win the league with Cleverley or Anderson or Jones in midfield? Well Carrick was behind everything. Replace Carrick with Huddlestone, no way we would have won the league. Replace Wanyama with Huddlestone, no way people would rate Schneiderlin at that time.

    You are just like us. Someone who got tricked by stats. But when we start watching him every game we realised he's just mid table midfielder. Poor decision making, poor positioning, poor composure, poor vision basically poor mentality and run like headless chicken. And to be fair though he's good enough to play in EPL so he should be proud with it but not in top 6 teams. Even for Everton I think Tom Davies & Gueye are still better than him.
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    ti vu Full Member

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    You know I am not comparing about the height of Schneiderlin and Kante's performance, right?

    Scheinderlin impressed ever since Soton got promoted back to PL and that's before Wanyama joined. With Wanyama, Schneiderlin looked like he stepped up another level which arguably ready for bigger club. He failed and slipped ever since, but it's pure revisionism about Wanyama was better player and Schneiderlin only appeared after Wanyama signed for Soton.
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    Mike09 Banned

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    "Wanyama was behind everything in 2014/2015"

    I don't understand why you disagree with that quote. In this post of yours (especially that sentence that I marked) it's clear to me that you are agree with me that the reason why Schneiderlin looked like a top midfielder or so hype because of Wanyama was behind everything.

    Being honest myself before Wanyama joined, I did rate Schneiderlin as only a mid table midfielder because I didn't see anything special in him with Southampton too at that time prior 2015.
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    ti vu Full Member

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    Everything is big word and incorrect. I brought out Kante and Matic comparison initially for the ease to illustrate this point. Kante is very good player in his own right. Without Matic, there is no taking away from him being good. Matic was vital for the team since football is the team game. Kante may be good individually like he did in France shirt, but as a team he may fail to influence his team in a good way. Matic has that ability, which I liken to Wanyama (lesser degree. Remember I am not directly comparing their quality but the similarity in their partnership, role in the team).

    Without Wanyama, Scheiderlin was still very good for Soton. Quite many people thought that LVG misused him and when the team was rebuilt and he being afforded to get back to his previous role, he would recover. He didn't/has not. It doesn't change how he was at Soton. He was very good on his own.

    Of course, I respect your opinion and think that you had the eyes to see through Scheiderlin's deceiving performance. IMO however, Wanyama was not the catalyst behind that Soton at all. They did well without him to begin with.
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    Sammyjunn Banned

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    He's just average, always has been. There is nothing special about him, at his best he was a decent ball winner who could get the ball up to players who have some quality on the ball.

    Wasnt convinced by him even though the caf were wildly in love with him, did hope he was as good as I was told though.