Most successful manager - player partnerships

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    simplyared Full Member

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    Certainly many of these through the years where the manager has had a big influence on the player's own success and consequently brought success to the club.
    Here are some that come to mind:
    Bill Shankly/Kevin Keegan
    Mourinho/Frank Lampard
    SAF/Ryan Giggs
    SAF/Eric Cantona
    SAF/Robin van Persie (short period, but got us our 20th league title)
    Anymore?
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018

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    SAF/Ronaldo
    SAF/Rooney
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    abdo99 Full Member

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    Zidane/ Ronaldo. 3 seasons. 3 CL trophies. 100% record.
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    WR10 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018

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    Mourinho/Matic
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    iamkiranks New Member

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    Mourinho - Terry

    Mourinho - Drogba

    Mourinho - Zlatan
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    Brinky Full Member

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    Harry Redknapp / Jermain Defoe
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    Karlos PFC New Member

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    Moyes - Jagielka :wenger:
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    First thing that comes to my mind is Mourinho & Materazzi. The influence Mourinho appeared to have had on him in their short time together appears to be quite profound.

    “How can you talk of the best Coach in the world, when there are four that are more or less at the same level?” Materazzi told La Gazzetta dello Sport. “Jose Mourinho, Guardiola, [Carlo] Ancelotti and [Marcello] Lippi. And, just one step below them, [Antonio] Conte and [Jurgen] Klopp.

    “I can tell you that Mourinho and Lippi are the best, in my opinion, not just because of their self-explanatory results, but because I experienced them from close-up. But I understood who Jose was before even meeting him.

    “We'd just been knocked out of Euro 2008 on penalties against Spain. He didn't have my telephone number and I wasn't [Diego] Milito. It was possible that I was going to leave Inter. And I received a phone text: 'I'm waiting for you so we can start winning together'.”

    Matrix was then asked to give the secrets behind the Portuguese Coach's success.

    “Drive, cleverness, knowledge, experience and empathy.

    “Drive: he can multiply energies. I could give you a thousand examples, but one from the Triplete year will suffice: we lost 3-1 against Catania, and the next day he slaughtered us all, from the strongest to the weakest.

    “We look each other in the eye, suck it up and four days later we go to London and beat Chelsea. Mourinho can read your feelings, even the hidden ones, and get inside your mind.

    “Cleverness: He presses all the right buttons, not just his player's. I've never seen anyone so scientific in provoking his opponents, so good at making them nervous.

    “But he goes beyond. Sometimes he feeds on the controversy, but he always keeps the team away from that. He's the perfect shield.

    “Knowledge, that's what he provides his team with on the subject of their opponents. After working on their tactics for a week, you know it all about them. And you can take to the pitch ready to make your game, and also to break theirs.

    “Experience: Mourinho knows how to win because he's done that a lot, and that in turn is because he started winning so early.

    “His secret was to start his career when he was young, with a Coach's mind when he was a simple assistant.

    “Empathy: that's the first thing he seeks out with his team, the condition that is absolutely necessary to build a strong group, one that is united and has no cracks. That's what leads you to fight against everything and everyone.”

    I can't post media yet but here it is (remove space) https://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=AT17rDfY8pA

    He seems to really have that special connection with players who have a strong mentality (e.g. Zlatan).
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    IAmAWinner Full Member

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    Redknapp/Krancjar, one FA Cup, and one 4th place finish with Spurs.
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    Another one is Jose and Essien. Essien calls him the white daddy :lol:
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    Thisistheone Full Member

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    Rinus Michels and Johan Cruyff. Ajax, Barcelona, Holland.
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    Tommy bigot with fetish for footballers getting fingered

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    See a lot of SAF & X posts, but I don't see perhaps the biggest one of all...

    SAF & Keane.
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    Mourinho - Sneijder

    Not for longevity ofcourse, but Sneijder was truly world class when playing for Mourinho. He was very good before and after, but never reached those heights again.
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    No mention of Pep/Messi?
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018

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    Same with Jose - Milito. That season he was so good. People think Sneijder should have won Ballon d'Or because of World cup performance but Milito was Inter's best player that season.
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    A lot of great ones mentioned, but these ones changed football. The legacy that they have is still being felt today.
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    André Dominguez Full Member

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    Mourinho - Deco at Porto (If it wasn't for Mourinho, Deco would had left to Barcelona after the UEFA cup win)
    Del Bosque - Morientes
    Carlo Ancelotti - Shevchenko (Ancelotti 4x3x2x1 system took the best out of Sheva qualities)
    Jupp Heynckes - Dante (Dante was considered one of the world best defenders)
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    simplyared Full Member

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    That is a very good shout imo. Obviously people affected by the bust-up they had. In the earlier days their partnership was second to none. Pity Keano overstepped his mark and spoiled all that. Thinking about SAF's words re the player after the CL semi final in Milan where Keano won us a place in the final almost single handed.
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    André Dominguez Full Member

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    Come on, mate.

    Any manager - Messi
    Any manager - C. Ronaldo

    Messi was already shining before Pep.
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    SAF/Keane over any of the other United ones. He was his general on the field.
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    Mastadon New Member

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    Brinky Full Member

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    Joachim Löw / Miroslav Klose
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    Yeah, that heroic performance against AC Milan was something else :drool:
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    Enigma_87 You know who

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    Mourinho/Carvalho is pretty much the best partnership out there for Jose over the years.
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    Neil Warnock/Paddy Kenny
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    Zidane - Modric
    Guardiola - Messi-Iniesta-Xavi
    Heynckes - Müller
    Wegner - Henry
    Helenio Herrera - Suárez
    Michels - Cruyff
    Cruyff - Stoichkov
    Cruyff - Laudrup
    Cruyff - Koeman
    Van Gaal - F. de Boer
    Van Gaal - L. Enrique
    Schön - Beckenbauer
    Beckenbauer - Matthäus
    SAFerguson - Scholes
    SAFerguson - Cantona
    SAFerguson - Beckham
    SAFerguson - Keane
    SAFerguson - Giggs
    SAFerguson - Ferdinand
    Benítez - Gerrard
    Del Bosque - Raúl
    Del Bosque - Busquets
    Sacchi - Rijkaard
    Rijkaard - Ronaldinho
    Ancelotti - Pirlo
    Lippi - Pessotto
    Lippi - Cannavaro
    Scholari - Rivaldo
    Mourinho - Carvalho
    Mourinho - Terry
    Mourinho - Lúcio
    Mourinho - Lindelof
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    Trizy Banned

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    Modric was world class well before Zidane.
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    Casanova85 New Member

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    Yet he was fairly random during Carlo's second year and Rafa's 6 months...

    He reached Top Star status with Zidane.
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    simplyared Full Member

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    Mourinho - Lindelof is stretching it. What success has come out of that?
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    irony...sarcasm...

    or future revealed
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    LVG / Ronald De Boer
    Jose / Carvalho
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    JPRouve can't stop thinking about balls - NOT deflategate

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    Trapattoni-Platini?
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    Fergie/Ronaldo
    Pep/Messi
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    Snash93 New Member

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    Rafa Benitez and Fernando Torres

    Even while they were at Chelsea, Torres scored the most goals in his Chelsea career under Rafa including Europa League if I'm not mistaken
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    Bestietom Full Member

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    SAF and all his teams.
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    ivaldo Mediocre Horse Whisperer, s'up wid chew?

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    We've missed the obvious one.

    Niko kranjcar - Harry Redknapp
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    Brinky Full Member

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    LVG / Blind
    Laudrup / Michu
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    Brinky Full Member

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    See post 9;) but I agree.
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    Frank Grimes Full Member

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    Must be Paisley - Dalglish et al and Ferguson - Giggs
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    Stadjer Full Member

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    However it is said that Michels prevented that Cruijff became our national manager because Cruijff would do better and take Michels his spot as most succesful Dutch national team manager.

    In 1980 the players wanted Cruijff but Michels wanted Beenhakker. Michels got what he wanted and the world cup in 1990 went terrible for us.