Mourinho: “There are clubs where the old legend doesn’t want the glory of the new"

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    SwansonsTache incontinent sexual deviant & German sausage lover

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    Shots fired at G.Neville.
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    Donnie Brasco Banned

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    Love you Jose, since arriving always speaking the truth. Even speaking the truth on topics that people around the club feel are taboo.
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    Renegade New Member

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    Oh shut up Jose. This guy picks to many fights.
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    Pexbo has never watched Star Wars

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    I agree with him.

    Too many of our old players criticise the club for not being the idealistic model they hold in their head from their time here.

    I don’t want them to be a cheerleading squad like Liverpool has but supporting the team once in a while wouldn’t hurt.
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    A lot of truth in that.
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    He is talking nonsense again
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    cyberman Full Member

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    The way Neville over exaggerates a narrative during commentary needs to be called out.
    Maybe Jose is wide of the mark in terms of not wanting new legends but Gary isn't being 100 percent honest in his job.
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    fellaini's barber Full Member

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    I don't think any of our legends want the club to fail, Jose needs to realise that he doesn't help himself replying to everything and everyone who criticises him, its getting tiring.
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    Ødegaard formerly MrEriksen Scout

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    More like they can't stand anyone but one of their own leading the line.
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    Red_Aaron Full Member

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    He's got half a point and as always he's worded it cleverly.

    Do some of the old guard want things to be run the same way they had it? Sure.
    Do some of the old guard have highly limited skills when it comes to management and coaching? Absolutely
    Do some of the old guard overly critical compared to other clubs. Definitely

    But wanting us to fail? Nah, I'm not having that. The frustration from the likes of Nev and Scholesy is palpable, they want us to win more than anything imo
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    DomesticTadpole Doom-monger obsessed with Herrera & the M.E.N.

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    I don't think they precisely want the club to fail, but they want him to fail, so the club needs to fail for that to happen. Neville stuck up for Moyes for ages and LvG because we don't apparantly sack managers. Well you do if they are useless. They don't like him.
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    Andersons Dietician Full Member

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    Overall hasn’t G Nev actually been quite supportive. He came out with a piece this week about how the fans have to show patience.
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    SwansonsTache incontinent sexual deviant & German sausage lover

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    Sometimes they can't hide their preference for the old. Give it to Giggseh and Rooney isn't past it \ silent domination are two examples.
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    DomesticTadpole Doom-monger obsessed with Herrera & the M.E.N.

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    We are winning and winning trophies, so really they should just get over themselves.
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    LawCharltonBest Enjoys watching fox porn

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    RedDevil@84 Full Member

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    Are those Jose's words or a deduction from the SW
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    He doesn't say they do, that tweet is a bit misleading. Quite a few care about themselves or the monetizing of their status over the club though.

    You might find it tiring but i wouldn't say he doesn't help himself, he knows exactly what he's saying and the reaction
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    I think he's correct. Except I'd tweak it . 'They want his way to fail'
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    I always mute G. Neville punditry during our matches. he's a try-hard to come off as neutral to the point he goes into the total opposite direction and can't objectively speak on us.
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    Irrespective of Jose there is no doubt that this Class of ‘92 hype has been overkill over the past few years. It would be difficult for any United manager.
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    Meh. I’m done wasting time on JM’s detractors.
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    W all know the class of 92 has its own agenda which is not actually in the direct interests of the club but of themselves!
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    To be honest, the Neville brothers ruin it for the rest of them. If they stepped out of the media right now then the old guard would be quite enjoyable.

    Ferdinand is a proper cheerleader
    Scholes is a miserable git all the time that it's funny
    Keane has some great one liners

    Gary and Phil are just annoying in public.
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    More deflection
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    I'd personally worry about getting fans on side before criticising others.
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    The club comes with expectations of playing good football. Moyes and LVG were criticises. Maybe it's harsh at times, but this is how it is. No one wants us to fail, we're just held to high standards.
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    ah gotta love Mourinho

    we get the season over us and he still has enough bollocks to spout to ensure the cloud of negativity that surrounds the club is maintained

    shut up Jose and coach the fecking team - stop being a sensitive flower if a big bad pundit says something you don't like

    it's not like he's every said anything negative about a fellow professional, manager or referee is it
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    What I saw Mourinho talking is regarding the last point. We know these legends want us to win, but they're not open to new reality where they're not active. New players ain't the same (ability, mentality wise). Mourinho is no SAF. Their talk is all about how they want ("them") but not what the club needs to do. They talked as if they know it all when in truth they ain't faring well in management at lower level! Can you trust their decision making at top level management? They're in his case trying to build their pundit reputation more than supporting the club. That's the point.
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    G Neville is pretty much like what Howard Webb used to be for us in last few years. Webb seemed so concerned about the Utd 12th man comments that he went out of the way to ignore blatant foul on our players and penalty shouts.
    Neville seems to go out of the way to show that he is a neutral that he comes off as one of the constant moaners about most of our players
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    Yep was going to say. They want to be involved and have a plan on how to do it probably allocated jobs between themselves.

    That much is obvious. Anyone who does not think they would jump at the chance to manage and coach as a group at United is special.
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    Picking fights or speaking the truth? Plenty of ex players have gone on record to slate the manager, players and club in recent years, it doesn't help the club in achieving it's aims.

    When was the last time we had ex players consistently praising the job that Jose has been doing? Some people just don't like the fact his honest and to the point. He might come across as picking fights but the constantly damning of the club has to stop, it does more harm than good, something we don't need.

    Mourinho said just last Thursday that the performance of Rashford/Martial was why he sticks to using Lukaku so much. He was looking for a positive reaction from the players, but pundits and press couldn't allow him that as they continued to slate the treatment of the players by Mourinho.

    Also, for all the negative stuff Mourinho comes out with towards players, he's also just as quick to praise and defend them.
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    Nothing like surrounding the club in more poisonous smog in the off-season
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    Win the league or CL first, then you can talk as much crap as you want.
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    VP89 Pogba's biggest fan

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    He's not wrong in highlighting the over the top criticism from certain ex players. I don't think they're doing it because they wish badly on the club though,

    I think they're just too thick in seeing how he's improved the club and isn't completely finished with making us a Mourinho side that the footballing world appreciated at other clubs.
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    So fans are now happily throwing our club legends under the bus to protect their precious Jose. Interesting.

    This is just more pointless bickering which did not need to be said, even if it was true. He really does have a bizarre need to pick fights with everyone.
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    A few ex players are more responsible for that than others. The talk of being failed managers is evidence of that, and that the comments are probably for the Neville brothers specifically since they failed at clubs and talk a lot.