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Board don’t trust Mourinho anymore. Not gonna invest on him.
Where do you get this from? Stop talking crap.
Base on what?
Bullshit. Both the board and Mourinho know we have to patient with the rebuild.
could have chosen a better pic though. It looks like a retired ex con is trying to get his team back for one last paycheck!
There won't be a dramatic improvement? Interesting thing to say.
The full quotes are perfectly fine. I'm just not convinced about the bit on City's spending. Of course they are stronger than us financially but I don't see their spending as vastly different from ours since Jose started. He also mentioned that when he was at Chelsea it was a factor as well. But I don't think it's comparable. At that time Chelsea spent like noone else could. Right now we're up there with City as far as big spenders go.
The rest from Jose is all very balanced. Interesting that he's looking at two midfielders. I just hope we don't neglect the attack and left back. Since Jose took over the only attacker he's signed is a striker and a striker to replace the original striker. And Mkhitarian who has been awful.
I think it's in terms of player recruitment 2- 4 per summer no major change there unlike dramatic clear out with several new signings which many like me and some others on this forum are hoping .
So no signings in January and 3 maximum in the summer window? Looks like we’re about to go another season without challenging.
None in January? I don't buy that. We need some quality in there. Desperately.
I still think we will get one in January. Maybe this is a negotiation tactic to appear like we are not desperate so that clubs don't fleece us. Hopefully we get a RW. We can wait until the summer for a LB now that Shaw and Young are both playing well. And Jose has already mentioned he's looking at 2 midfielders for the summer so that can wait as well.
Looks like most of the transfer threads can be shuttered now. Muppet complete mental obliteration.
And just one marquee signing and two midfielders coming in to replace Carrick and Fellaini and Mhki, while City strengthen again, PSG strengthen again then its easy to see that we are in a new era of state owned clubs dominating the EPL and CL which United will patiently try to survive and hope that FFP gets reformulated to counter this--there was a notable criticism of FFP here.
We'll see which fans are still left after this drought and who the gloryhunters are.
What I got from this is that Mourinho expects to be managing United next season, which puts all the PSG rumours to bed. Which is good news.
"It’s not going to happen that there is a dramatic change and a dramatic improvement but with time, step by step, with some balance, we have to do it."
A lot of United supporters are going to throw a fit over that. They want massive overhauls.
He is setting a foundation for United consisting of Pogba, Lukaku, Lindelof, Bailly, Rashford, Martial, Lingard, Shaw, and the four youngsters (the Perieras, McTominay, Fosu-Mensah). They are the future for United. Plus whichever two or three players United get this summer.
I see two scenarios here. At the end of his contract the atmosphere has turned against Jose so he leaves and goes to PSG where he is put back on a competitive footing with City, where he goes onto dominate the CL and Ligue with Pep maybe alternating with him for CL success. While we go through a series of 1-2 year failed managers and into regular 5-7th placed territory.
Or he signs a new longer contract and makes patient progress, developing the youth (Rashford, Martial, Lindelof, TFM, Tuanzebe, Pereira, Gomes etc.) and gets the odd title and trophy along the way while City dominate in general.
My concern is the fans will force it to be the first scenario.
We still have 1 signing to come in left over from last summer and we should be buying 1 -2 players in January. We should have 2-3 players coming in.
Now where have I heard that before...
So we've gone from 'transfer spend is not enough' to 'there will only be 2 or 3 summer signings and we have to take our time'. Sounds like somebody has had a bollocking and been told to keep quiet.
Which fans will force? Fans at OT or caftards? It is all on Mou and his performance as a manager, Woody and the owners.
There was already booing in the last game. The Caf is full of matchgoers and many of them are anti-Mourinho. The mood could go very sour, even this season. If we finish 3rd-4th and Cupless then I can see the crowd turning and the board panicking.
No, it sounds like he is still saying the spending isn't enough compared to City and PSG but he understands the situation. He was also understanding about not landing Perisic last summer.
Id rather forsake an ill judged marquee signing or two and get 5-7 younger talents in and transform the look of the first team. New LB, one CM, new 10, RW, CF seems priority to me. Instead of splashing 100m on a Griezmann.. Should be aiming for 30-50m talents and build a new look side across the pitch and then season after start adding marquee players to that.
That sounds great on paper. But would we get 5-7 good 30-50 million pound signings? I'd take that over a couple if huge signings as well.
The board wont panick, never. They are businessmen in the class of their own. We have heard "stick that banner up your arse" defending Moyes the Clown. So, I do not think Mou will be booed. Players get occasionally booed, happens at many teams including at Real, that is the nature of the game.
This doesn't sound good or reassuring at all for me.
Basically saying what we all know, we cant compete with Country funded clubs and it would be unfair to expect united to do so. I do think Ed woodward is eating humble pie over his "we are rich, we can do things in transfer market others can only dream off" claim. He has stopped saying these claims now but i think that really fecked us over. With Liverpool Investing heavily,City doing the same and make no mistake they will buy similarly next year too as they will continue to pump money in the market pressure will be on Edward Woodward from the fans. He cant really sack mourinho if he doesnt win as everyone will say mou wasnt given the money needed, The pockets have to be deepened somehow, maybe Woodward can get us a sleeve sponsor or some shit like that.
Simple fact is Mourinho is hired to Rebuild the club and unless you provide him with all the tools to do so, he might finish 3rd with a squad which has quality of finishing at best 5th but competing with PSG/CITY/Barca/Real etc with poorer squad and poor investment is asking him to perform miracles.
When there is booing of a substitution, as there has been twice now I think, is that at the player going off, the player coming on, or the manager making the sub?
We booed Moyes and LVG. The trendline is towards LVG's second season. I'm hoping we finish 2nd and get a Cup and it will keep the baying of the wolves quiet so to speak but if we get 3rd of 4thand trophyless and playing unattractive football in some fans mind then I can confidently say there will be chants of 'Attack Attack Attack', booing after bad results and Jose out chants. The atmosphere is already quite toxic.
Nah, it sounds like the media took three words ("it's not enough") and twisted a narrative that Mourinho is not happy with the board. Hence, this from the article:
And take cheer, because United are getting another Pogba/Lukaku next summer:
There wasn't a lot of booing nor there will be in the future. Even if it happened regulary it wouldn't be a thing that would force the board to sack Jose.
Anyway 2 or 3 signings along with getting back Pereira and giving more game time to TFM and Tuanzebe or some other youth product who is good enough isn't that bad.
Forward player is a must, if we can get a CM and a RB with that too it's a good summer. But if Jose says 2, 3 signings that doesn't mean we won't get more imo.
Pathetic nothing post which of course you didn't even attempt to legitimise in the first instance or return to do. Off you go for a angry cry someplace
Yeah it's not like Mourinho himself didn't say not to interpret wrongly his words and that he's been backed. People just hear what they want to hear and most of the times they don't even listen to the guy or read what he has said.
The response of the board after Mourinho claims we are not spending enough. They are not gonna spend more on his approaches. Normally the manager asks for more support then board will respond well and fully support to help the manager get the job done after. But board just ignore Mourinho request this time.
At the same conference he said they invested heavily in Pogba, Lukaku and will do the same next summer. When I saw the conference I genuinely though oh great this planning will put to bed the psg chat for now. But no, just replaced with more inane muck.
Posting rules need upgrading I think- making a big declarative statement without reason lowers forum quality and in this instance, is a transparent wind up.
You're making stuff up.
I hope you are right.
Perhaps the two or three in and out doesn't include players signed on a free? ie. Ozil
At my most optimistic I can see:
Carrick, Darmian, Fellaini out
Jorginho, Tierney, Dybala, Ozil in
Something like these numbers and positions
We’ll see. If there’s no contract extension for Mourinho, my thought might correct.
No club will spend much on a manager the club knew he will leave one year after.
Tell me, how have you come to the conclusion that board 'ignore Mourinho this time'?
That would be an excellent transfer window.
Are you a member of the board? or do you have PHD in psychology?
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