Mourinho interview with L'Équipe: I'm a constructor, a football mason

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    Mourinho once again took credit for Real Madrid's recent successes



    Feel free to Google-translate the interview. The best/only translation available is on tribalfootball
    http://www.tribalfootball.com/artic...plode-i-want-to-coach-a-mourinho-team-4206171
    http://www.tribalfootball.com/artic...s-born-to-coach-and-born-to-greatness-4206208
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    whatwha Where's my diarrhea damnit

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    Lol :rolleyes:
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    Sammyjunn Banned

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    Trizy Full Member Scouse Lover

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    Well to be fair he's right.
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    Jed I. Knight The Mos Eisley Hillbilly

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    Great, hope he’s right and we win the lot once he’s gone.

    Hopefully before it, too.
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    Sammyjunn Banned

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    Would that be because he built the foundation or we would get a manager who suits us better and would be better for us. You will never know in reality.
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    The holy trinity 68 The disparager Scouse Lover

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    And Mourinho won 2 trophies last season because of the work LVG did? :rolleyes:
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    2 Girls 1 Midfield Incestuous Modern Woman (Dumper!)

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    Nice dig at Conte there :lol:
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    IrishRedDevil Full Member

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    He's the lucky one actually, LVG laid the foundations for him here.
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    deafepl Full Member

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    Before Mourinho came to Real Madrid, they struggled to get through quarter-final in champions league for 7 years, Mourinho turned them into title contenders in champions league and have reached semi-final three times in a row for 3 years before he left them, they went to win 3 times in 4 years

    at Manchester United, he turned Manchester United into one of the strongest team post SAF eras in just year and are 2nd in the league, he won Europa, league cup and community shield with United.
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    No white text?
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    DWelbz19 Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    I mean, yeah, he's historically right -- he takes teams out of shape and instills fast success and an increased mentality. The problem is he is a victim of his own vices and has typically ended up forced to leave down to the toxic friction he creates.
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    I get the feeling that some people are serious with this van gaal shit.
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    great but I hope he stays longer with us and brings us many trophies.
    happy and satisfied with his work till now..
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    Most of the credit is to Jose Mourinho, he is rebuilding a team after signing Zlatan, Pogba, Mihki, Baily who contributed to winning trophies.
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    Those who are laughing should read this.
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    Paul_Scholes18 Full Member

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    Moyes demolished it all so there was nothing left. LVG build foundations for the future. Mourinho builds on top of those. Then he destroys his own building fighting with everyone and we are back to square 1.
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    Santoryo ripping the reward

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    Can't argue with that logic :o
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    Thinking there would be another class of 92 if LVG stayed longer
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    Hugh Jass Full Member

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    He sure has a high value of himself. Not that I am complaining.
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    LvG actually did lay the foundations for Mourinho's career when they worked together in the nineties, meaning Real Madrid's three CL's since 2014 wouldn't have happened if not for Van Gaal and his platform-building philosophy that he taught Mourinho at a critical stage of his career.

    Can't believe not everyone acknowledges that.
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    notcool Banned Scouse Lover

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    Every single club that he's been at has been better off after he's left than after he came, except Chelsea the second time he was there. We are better now than when he came in. If this isn't obvious you must not have been paying attention.
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    Valar Morghulis Full Member

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    That is SO Louis Van Gaal...:lol: Never go full LVG!
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    He did credit LVG in a way for the Europe Cup because he said we are in the Europa Cup because LVG won the FA Cup.
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    Paul_Scholes18 Full Member

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    He did a decent job at Real Madrid even if ultimately Barcelona won more against them, but he is not the reason they won after he left. Ronaldo has been a key reason why he did so well and why they still doing so well. SAF and the Manchester United staff that did develop him deserve most credit for that. Mourinho had him as well.

    They have bought a lot of great player which is a key reason why they are doing so well. Some of them during the time of Mourinho, but not most of them. Key players for them winning the champions league have been Ramos (before Mourinho), Ronaldo, Bale that has nothing to do with Mourinho. He bought Modric I guess, but that would be the one key contribution in terms of players brought in by Mourinho.

    The tactic that won them was due to other managers and not Mourinho as well.
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    Not sure how much better Porto was after he left.

    Chelsea did well after he left no doubt, but they did keep buying very expensive players and brought in other good managers.

    Inter did decline very quickly and are not great anymore. Mainly due to lack of financial power and some bad investment.

    Chelsea after he left the second time did look quite terrible. Poor depth in the squad and Mourinho had sold a lot of great players very weirdly. Conte did great to win it with that squad, but this season we see him struggling. Kante has been massive for them and without him now they don't look great.

    I like Mourinho and hope he does well here, but there are no signs about him building things good for the long term. Rather he get the best out of big players when he manage them and push his team hard to win things.
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    The holy trinity 68 The disparager Scouse Lover

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    I was being sarcastic mate.
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    I like that his arrogance is back. He seemed a different, reserved man during his recent spell at Chelsea and then here. He doesn't care what we think, what media thinks. Give me Mean Mourinho all day.:devil:
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    He brings teams on the cusp of greatness but fails at the final step, mainly because he lacks an attacking philosophy. Attacking philosophy requires ideals and Mourinho doesn't do idealism.

    He wouldn't know what to do with the teams he constructs. Which is why he leaves. The Real Madrid we see now is hardly similar to the one Mourinho left. He did form the base for their period of success, but guys like Ancelotti and Zidane were required to unleash their full potential.
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    What a fantastic thread for all those emoticons from my thread. People overestimate what 'foundations' are & get completely aggressive when talking about LVG.

    LVG could never attract the players José has; players like pogba Lukaku and Bailey are players that are bought to be at the centre of our team to play the way the manager wants - they are Josés players and at the core of our tactics.

    What LVG did was however briefly; move us on from the grand shadows of SAF and the confusion of Moyes - got rid of players like evra, RVP nearly all from a previous generation (apart from Rooney & this is why he was targeted) & got us playing a very basic, tactical type of football again coupled with some youngsters.

    Ever since he came; he implemented a basic tactical awareness back to a club that had to change find its identity as quick as possible & however much we may need or want to play counter attacking football in the games José decides; we can flip a switch and play possession football when we want to.

    Because that's what he meant about philosophy - United is theoretically speeking a possession football based team club ever since LVG's arrival & this will be shown in the games we decide to play that way down to the players that will break in to our first team in the future. The same with a 352.

    For along time no one will have to rebalance the squad the way LVG did and initiate a new tactical approach - more what is needed is for the future managers be that from José to ppchetino to giggs - is to come in and find those players that play in the way their manager wants to.

    We are right now a mix of a possession based counter attacking team due to the way José wants United to play; but united itself is a possession based football club & will be for a long time.
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    cue 3 nil defeat tomorrow :lol:
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    Is he bored or something?
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    It's more than about the players a club buys, it's about the mentality at the club. When Ronaldinho went to Barca, they didn't expect to win anything. He transformed the way the club thought about itself. That's what Jose has done lots of times: he's made clubs happier and got them to believe. The positivity and team spirit at our club is much better than it was when he came and if he leaves we will be much better off than when he came. Which will make us much better to compete in the future. And, again, that's more than about the players we have brought in but the mentality he has instilled.
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    It's true imo, the mentality he instills in players, the defensive stability and the recruitment he makes is usually invaluable to clubs. Something very stable the next manager can build on. That being said, getting a bit ahead of himself coming out and talking about it publicly imo
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    dwd Saturday Night Spies

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    Yeah but dem foundations :drool:
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    The reason they have done so well recently is due to balance, not Ronaldo. They've always had a very talented squad of players, what they lacked was a system to get the best out of all of them. Bringing in Casemeiro allowed that.
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    No, we finished the 5th to qualified for the Europa League, not because we won Fa cup to qualify for it. If we finished outside UEL spots and won FA cup, yeah he would get credit for getting us to Europa league. Also if we didn't lose one game in last two games, we'd be qualified for the champions league instead and finish above City.
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