Mourinho : "Transfer spend is not enough"

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    Maradona10 Duncan Castles

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    He is right i think, when united are interested the price is just going to be more expensive than when say tottenham are interested. Pep has thrown money at his problems and he already had a team that was not far away. They already had 4/5 world class players(aguero,silva,KDB,Kompany,), whereas at united mourinho has had 3 years of poor spending and is still playing with players that sir alex left him with.
    since fergie retired city have spent
    2013/14 -103 million
    2014/15 - 90 million
    2015/16 - 152 million
    2016/17 -168 million
    2017/18 - 219 million
    Ie = 732 million

    United-
    2013/14 - 67 million
    14/15- 145 million
    15/16- 103 million
    16/17- 149 million
    17/18 - 160 million
    = 624 million

    While united lost all the spine of their team, city had great players and kept spending and improving. I think moyes really fecked us up, also di maria was a faliure of a signing who shouldnt even be taken into account so the gap is about 150 million. Could we match city after spending 150 million more than them and getting to a level pegging even though pep started with a better team than Mourinho.
    I think mourinho is right in asking for equal spending if he is tasked with responsibility of winning the title then he needs level spending. Pep will throw money at his problems, he lost mendy to injury and talks about signing more fullbacks. The perception of pep is just different because he plays better football and has won things with best squads in leagues he has managed.
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    Harry190 Full Member

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    So, he's saying he is not good enough as the manager of the club.
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    MJJ Full Member City Lover

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    Meh excuses, he wanted four in the first transfer window and he got four. He wanted four last window and he got three of his choices and didn't get the fourth cos he had no alternates.

    The board has backed him and this just sounds like more excuses to me.

    Also you say Di Maria is a waste so shouldn't count but include rubbish like bravo, nolito,bunch of other failed signings to city's total.
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    spiriticon Full Member

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    It's not the boards fault he buys average players like Mhkitaryan, Lindelof and Lukaku for big money.

    He should do his fecking homework before moaning. Lazy comments from the boss.
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    amolbhatia50k Sneaky bum time

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    It's more than enough to challenge and play great attacking football.

    Lukaku isn't proving to be world beater. Mkhi has been trash. And Lindelof is taking ages to settle in.
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    Raees Boing Boing Baggies

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    Excuses excuses. If he can't turn us into winners with the current budget which is pretty huge, then let us find someone who can.
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    AndyJ1985 Full Member Verified Moaner

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    Don't like hearing him say that. Imagine being the owner of United and hearing the manager saying £300m isn't enough. It takes the piss. That's a huge amount of money and we should have a better team after spending so much
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    sullydnl Ross Kemp's caf ID

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    How many clubs in Europe spend more than us?
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    Kapardin Full Member

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    He had to buy Pogba for a huge fee. Lukaku was the only striker available in the market. It was either that or go strikerless into the new season.

    He has by and large bought well. Like Guardiola did with Nolito and Bravo, he has made a mistake in buying Mkhi. Now we need to see whether he, like Guardiola, will be given the cash to rectify the mistake, and whether he will buy wisely now.
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    Bojan11 Full Member

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    His point is that when we are interested in a player then the price goes up. Which is a fair point. See Morata for example.
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    amolbhatia50k Sneaky bum time

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    Over the last 3/4 seasons I doubt anyone has other than City and PSG. Even if City spend more, A) it's possible to counter that through better management/signings than them, and B) either way we shouldn't be 14/15 points behind.
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    amolbhatia50k Sneaky bum time

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    Morata wasn't available?
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    All 3 United His tinfoil hat protects him from the Glazers. Verified Moaner

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    The fact is the players we have bought have been massively over priced and our scouting team should be sacked on the back of the latest arrivals.
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    AshRK Full Member

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    He has to be ruthless. Sell deadwoods and stop over rating average players like fellaini. It's comical how we are begging a donkey like fellaini to sign a contract. That shows how far we have fallen. This is the same club who said feck off to the likes of Beckham, RVN, tevez and almost sold rooney as he was keeping the club on ransom but now are begging fellaini to sign a contract.
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    Maradona10 Duncan Castles

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    Di maria left for huge money and never felt like he played here, he is just skewing the numbers. While others all stayed and played their part. I do get what you are saying, i think you are right in your own way.
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    Randall Flagg Worst of the best

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    Moaning about funds having spent over £300m in two summer windows. Not sure he will get too much sympathy for that.

    He used to moan about lack of funds in his 1st stint at Chelsea too, think it was in his 3rd season after comfortably outspending everyone else the previous two
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    Raw Full Member

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    It seems like every time we buy some new players they quickly become deadwood a few years later. Especially the LVG signings.
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    Number1 Banned Verified Moaner

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    It's everyone else's fault bar is, that's Jose Mourinho for you.
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    Maradona10 Duncan Castles

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    Morata isnt better. They are same level, i think if he had morata, people here would want lukaku.
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    Water Melon before it dries out, eh

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    So now he is not happy with the money he was given. I also like he says that the players are playing at their best and that is the best they have to offer. It is never his fault, it is everyone bar him. Players are not good enough, money is not enough...
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    Klean Full Member

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    LOL. This thread title. Read the full quotes. He is saying because United is a large club they will have to pay more for players. He admits the team still has weaknesses and is proud of his players for his efforts. Some of you need to get a grip.
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    kps88 Full Member

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    Already won us a couple of trophies. We'll be looking for a while if you want someone to beat what City are currently doing.
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    Josep Dowling Full Member

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    I think this is a problem that people don’t realise. Lukaku to a degree was a panic buy at the price we paid. It was a choice between him and Morata and even then Real Madrid wanted £20m more than what they eventually sold to Chelsea.

    When you are being quoted £100m for a striker like Belotti what can we do?
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    amolbhatia50k Sneaky bum time

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    Nothing is decided in this regard. Either may end up proving to be better. Just goes to show that it's not that there was a single option in the market.
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    Maradona10 Duncan Castles

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    People also forget, pep inherited a better team with great players, its easier to improve already great team to world class, its another job to build a team in mess to a great one.
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    amolbhatia50k Sneaky bum time

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    LVG won stuff as well.
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    MJJ Full Member City Lover

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    Do net spend then.
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    Edgar Allan Pillow Was AFC, likes them hypoallergenic - no feathers

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    So we need to be the biggest spender to become a winner? After all those snide remarks about City buying the title, we now want to go the same way. We have a decent squad. Need some reinforcements, but no need to "throw the cash".

    Jose is not getting the best out of this team. I'm getting tired of his excuses.
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    amolbhatia50k Sneaky bum time

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    We weren't in a mess. 5th is not a mess if 4th isn't. Fair enough if you think we had less than City, but there's no chance they had 'great players' and we were 'a mess' is an accurate description. Suits the poor little Jose narrative I suppose.
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    kps88 Full Member

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    So I guess we can never use trophies to judge success anymore then.
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    ayushreddevil9 Full Member

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    Our signings have poor been regardless of the price. I would say, post Fergie only these players were the proper signings
    - Mata
    - Pogba
    - Martial
    - Bailly
    - Romero
    - Shaw
    - Matic
    - Lukaku
    - AdM
    410 mil

    Poor/Average
    - Rojo
    - Herrera
    - Depay
    - Schneiderlin
    - Mkhi
    - Darmian
    - Blind
    - Fellaini
    182 mil

    We have persisted with the average ones for far too long. We have three CMs, three fullbacks and two wingers in the average list. And those are the positions we are struggling in these days. Had we spent this money on better players, we would have been up there in the table. We should be starting to ship a few and improve upon these. January couldn't have come sooner.

    I have seen signs of improvement in Lindelof.
    Ibrahimovic signing has taken us back with the striker department. Yes he scored important goals, but we should have bought a better striker and build a team. Stop gaps won't work.
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    Hugh Jass Full Member

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    There are six teams going for one position, three, possibly four, which are spending a lot of money each summer. Therefore five teams have to lose out.
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    Maradona10 Duncan Castles

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    Morata 12 goals 4 assists- plays for last years champions
    Lukaku 14 goals 4 assists - plays for 6 th place team with serious lack of creativity.
    If we had morata we would be worse off.
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    amolbhatia50k Sneaky bum time

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    We can use the big trophies. And context.
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    spiriticon Full Member

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    Us having to pay more for players isn't a particularly new revolution. It's always been the case.

    We can't match City for spending. We don't have oil. So, he has to be smarter with his spending and work his team a bit harder to scout.
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    2cents Full Member

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    Quotes don't read well, not what you want him to be coming out with right now, especially given the PSG rumors. Need to watch it in full though.
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    sammsky1 Pochettino's #1 fan

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    Totally agree though I expect this thread to be high-jacked by the anti Mourinho brigade.
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    settembrini Full Member

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    Our current run of poor form has nothing to do with lack of spending and everything to do with Mourinho abandoning the successful 3-4-1-2 system.
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    Bojan11 Full Member

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    City had De Bruyne, Aguero and Silva. Three world class players when Pep arrived. How many outfield world class players did we have?

    How many of our attackers would get in any of the other top 6 sides? I’d say none. Jose issue is he hasn’t improved a poor shot shy attack. He just replaced Ibrahimovic with Lukaku from last year.
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    AndyJ1985 Full Member Verified Moaner

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    When you look at what we got for almost £600m it becomes clear why we're still not very good. An absolute fortune spent and very few great players bought. If you gave Real Madrid or PSG £600m they'd build a team of superstars. We've bought a team full of mediocrity. It's ridiculous it really is