Moyes: Nobody would have done better than me at Man Utd after Sir Alex

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  1. Oct 10, 2017

    Lawman Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    On the contrary he sold Evans, Rafael, Fletcher, Nani and Hernandez and bought guys in that we're no better and cost a right few bob. Bastion, Morgan, Depay and Di Maria would have got a right few bob of us to leave in contract money as well as the previous players I mentioned. LVG set us back a right few years in my opinion.
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    BigCaine New Member

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    Most of that team was average, likes of Giggs, vidic, Rio, evra were great players but those days were done for them by fergie's last season. Team got 89 points because of the man in charge, there is a reason why none of the players who I mentioned in my first post other than evra have even come close to being a big part of any title or trophy winning team since SAF.

    Moyes can be blamed for many things but it wasn't his fault that vidic looked absolutely atrocious in serie a or Ferdinand somehow managed to make a really bad QPR defense worse or the fact that likes of Cleverly and Anderson are playing at the level they belong today.



    I kinda forgot about him, Sir Alex staying would really have saved us lot of money we spent on Rooney, though I don't think he was ready to fix those problems, I think he much like Wenger at arsenal was a bit too loyal to his last squad, Rafael's injury issues were well-known, Giggs was not a mf at least not for a club like us, evra had lost his legs, likes of welbeck were not a top team player but sir alex kept faith with all of them. When we had an injury crises he brought back scholes but refused to buy a good midfielder. Sir Alex from 90's would not have baulked at hazard's fees.
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    caisenma I ♥ Adnan

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    i think the joke is on all you lot. he's just winding everybody up
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    There are so many post in this thread that deserve likes. :angel:
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    Parry Gallister Full Member

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    Shame you had to chime in and ruin everything.

    Sorry
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    stevoc Full Member

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    Theres only so much a manager no matter how good can do. Ferguson was a genius not a magician he still needed good players and that was a good team. It was coming to the end of its cycle but Moyes made almost every player in the squad perform worse than they were capable of.

    The worst thing Moyes reign caused is the revisionism towards Fergusons final team. They were a good if not great side, but to say it was an average side is pure nonsense. Average teams don't win multiple titles.

    Perhaps not but Moyes can be blamed for turning a squad that just won the league at a canter into dogshit almost to a man. The players performances that year were down to Moyes, the squad was easily capable of much, much more.
  7. Oct 12, 2017 at 18:46

    RedDevil@84 Full Member

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    So now he wants the Scotland job.. I guess his friends in media can make him the coach by writing articles on him every other day
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    The Bloody-Nine Full Member

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    I can't imagine a more depressing appointment if you're a Scotland fan.
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    Ali Dia Full Member

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    Giggs would have done better after Fergie than moyes. Fact. I bet we'd have finished top four with the same squad actually wanting to play for whoever was in charge. Moyes- the worst choice we could have made in hindsight. He was overrated and he totally believed his own hype. His quotes about United every few months are just cringey. Feck off already you disaster of a manager! Find your level and rebuild your crumbling reputation or else retire. Please stop talking about us every chance you get. Cheers.
  10. Oct 12, 2017 at 19:17

    Regulus Arcturus Black Full Member

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    Their last one?
  11. Oct 12, 2017 at 19:23

    The Bloody-Nine Full Member

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    Nope.
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    Anyone who thinks he wasn't bad and should have been given longer needs a reality check, and can't have watched many games that season. We were bad, very bad. The team was not as bad as some people made out. If Fergie could get the best out of them then another manager good enough to manage United should have been able to do so. Moyes was way out of his depth. Just take a look at what he did with Sunderland and Sociedad to get an idea of how terrible he is. He is a dinosaur.
  13. Oct 12, 2017 at 19:28

    Regulus Arcturus Black Full Member

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    I couldn't imagine worse that Strachan, and I fecking detest Moyes.

    Poor Scotland.
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    BigBebe Full Member

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    Exactly, I can just imagine it now when our Euro qualifying group in announced......

    'Oh, Lichtenstein, Luxemburg, the Scilly Isles and Rockall. That is a very very tough group for Scotland. Rockall away to start with, that is very tricky, they've got puffins and everything, we will do well to get the runners up spot.'

    Nightmare.
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    Dont think he'll get the Scotland Job,maybe the Mcleish ?
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    This moron just can't get over it, zero self awareness and self criticism.
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    Sky1981 Fending off the urge

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    The only good thing he has done for united is showing why we shouldn't take the manager spot for granted.

    If jose come straight after saf he would have been booed and sacked by then for not winning the league.
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    I still think that the very worst thing he did was chuck out our backroom staff and bring in a bunch of his mates who hadn't won a fecking egg and spoon race between them for three decades.

    They weren't winners, had no clue how to deal with a huge club and squad as we have, and were about a decade out of date in terms of training philosophy.

    Moyes has shown he was never actually up to the job, but I think if we had Moyes with the established backroom team behind him that season, we would have been top four still.
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    SteveJ all-round nice guy, aka Uncle Joe Kardashian

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    Moyes: Noddy would have done better than me at Man Utd after Sir Alex
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    Agreed. We couldn't have had a more apt sacrificial lamb if we'd have tried. Not only did he bring expectations crashing down to Earth in a fashion that couldn't have been written, but his general persona and rhetoric were as if he was trying to be the world's worst Scouse sleeper agent.

    With the style of Football we then had to tolerate under LVG, between the two of them they were the ultimate duo to take pressure and normalise expectations for our next manager.
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    SteveJ all-round nice guy, aka Uncle Joe Kardashian

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    Surely Scotland have suffered enough now?
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    Writing something we have absolutely no idea if true and then writing the word fact does not make it so though.
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    That's true but I think any other manager that we should have been considering (ie proper experience, managing big egos etc) would have done better than moyes. The players hated him and didn't respect him and he flopped. Any other manager who could command the respect of the existing players would have made top 4 again. He set us back years. I'm not really sure the board had a proper hiring process either. LVG was also a total disaster. A good manager with the money we have and the existing squad at his disposal should be at least competitive. Most could agree on that no?
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    He's been talking about it again on 5 Live tonight. Didn't want Fellaini as his first signing....

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    SteveJ all-round nice guy, aka Uncle Joe Kardashian

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    "If Sir Alex Ferguson had taken over from Sir Alex Ferguson, he would have found it tough."

    Er, no he wouldn't have...because he's Sir Alex Ferguson, you twit.
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    Looking at what Jose has done with Fellaini, Moyes saying he didn't want him as if that is some sort of justification for his woes makes him look an even worse manager.
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    Sounds like a man dying of regret.
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    17Larsson Not a malefactor just a lagomorph

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    He's right. All the evidence shows that SAF would have probably finished 7th as well
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    Matic :lol:

    Now you know he’s making things up! Heard he was also after Mbappe!
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    Yup. Felliani was Moyes player for years and the only time he looked decent under him was as a battering ram in his everton team. Jose has shown that there actually is a competent midfielder inside there.

    It's speculation, but I also would wager that a freshly retired Giggs, who would at least have had the good sense to keep the backroom staff, would have had a better season directly replacing SAF than the scottish orc did.
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    So he basically admits his transfer planning was based on seeing whether or not Fabregas started the first game of the season for Barca. :lol:

    No wonder we missed Fellaini's cheaper deal deadline, what a clown.
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    Huh?

    Before i thought Moyes bullshit was just down to pride, bruised ego and him not being man enough to admit his failures. But statements like this make me wonder if he didn't actually have a nervous breakdown of some sort. The man is an absolute cretin.

    Shit like this is why Moyes was a failure, what fecking difference does it make what order players are signed in. Is this what he spent 6 weeks on holiday planning, see if Fabregas starts the season and hopefully sign him if he doesn't play and then we can sign Fellaini after.

    Jesus christ did he have anything resembling a plan at any stage of his tenure as manager of Manchester United. I used to think he was a good if not great manager who was just promoted beyond his ability. But i think it's clear now he is just a bluffer who was in the right place at the right time at Everton.
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    The biggest of many mistakes made by Moyes and the club.

    Moyes whinges because he was justifiably sacked by the club after ten months of complete and utter failure.
    The back room staff were sacked by Moyes after success over many years (including the most recent title win at the time of his appointment).

    Why doesn't he spend more time discussing the reasons why he was sacked by Sociedad?

    Moyes moans that the club didn't give him time, but he jumped ship from a club (Sunderland) who were prepared to give him time, even after he had got them relegated, despite several of his predecessors having kept them up in previous seasons.

    The man is a complete and utter fraud and it is a disgrace that anyone ever thought that he was suitable to be Manchester United manager.
    I'm sure that a university somewhere must have used his appointment as a case study for a catastrophic example of the failure of succession planning.
  35. Oct 14, 2017 at 00:32

    The Bloody-Nine Full Member

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    I'm sure some clown argued with me recently that it wasn't Moyes' fault at all. :lol:
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    What's weird is that the absolute worst Fellaini looked in a Utd shirt was under Moyes. He was fecking atrocious in that season.

    You'd think he'd at least know how best to use a player he'd already had for 4 or 5 years before but Moyes couldn't even do that.
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    I wish there was a way to erase him from our history.
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    history will do it
  39. Oct 14, 2017 at 00:54

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    Couldn't have said it any better myself. Over the period of his tenure at Everton, Moyes and the board grew more and more content with the regularity of a top 6-7 place in the League and the odd cup run. Shielded from criticism due to Everton's modest transfer budget compared to the teams above them, Moyes was never really forced to step out of his comfort zone. It's not too dissimilar to the concerns voiced by Arsenal fans regarding the ambition of Wenger and the board to push on after achieving the platform of a regular Champions League place. Moyes is a clueless fecker and completely out of touch with modern football management, no top league side will touch him now and rightly so.
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    Djemba-Djemba Full Member

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    He's going to be moaning about needing more time and almost signing Bale and Fabregas for the rest of his life isn't he?

    Every few months we'll hear the same bollocks from him.