Discussion in 'Transfer Forum' started by Macern, Mar 8, 2017.
I don't think we'll actually sign 4 players.
Top class centre half to play beside bailly and a holding central midfield player are the must haves, the team isn't that far off competing at the top and I think martial ibra and mkhitaryan should be given a chance to flourish next season.
we need a top class centre back who can the ball out from the back
A right winger who has pace, creativity and can beat his man.
2 top class Centre forwards who can play in any position across the front 3
Zlatan will probably leave. Rooney will leave along with other fringe players.
I just went on squawka and picked out examples of players with overall scores...basically I'm just saying you can't solely use stats. There was a thread going round about Herrera outperforming Kante on here in most key stats but I'm sure most ppl would prefer Kante in their team however much they love Ander.
All I am saying is I don't think he is the best in the league, it's cool to disagree btw but that's just what I think from watching football games. I can see why Bellerin is a contentious choice given Arsenal's form, maybe I was sidetracked there because I think he has great potential so happy to take him off my list but I just don't think Valencia is better than the others.
We might be engulfed with french players from Monaco plus griezman
What about this kid from Ajax? Dolberg is quick, a good dribbler and hold the ball up pretty well and can lead the line. He does need to work on his shooting though. What I like about him is his link up play? I know we've been linked with Mbappe and several other strikers and the last time we signed someone from the Dutch league, Memphis didn't turn out to be the best signing. But we could get this kid on the cheap. Anyone who knows more about Dolberg care to elaborate and share their opinion?
Why do you pick "overall score"? That's not how you judge who are the better players!!
This is what goes wrong to people who can't use stats. Stats has stuff that can be viewed and also can't be viewed.
There are more aspects we need to view on midfielder than a full back. Majority of midfielder's critical attributes such as vision, positioning, decision making, work rate, influence and etc cannot be viewed using stats. That's why Kante is better than Herrera because he dominates the midfield while Herrea doesn't.
I don't like use stats only however the "stuff" you mentioned can be viewed with stats easily especially for a right back.
I don't think he is an amazing defender. --- (To against your statement I showed the stats of his defensive work)
Not great on the ball --- (To against your statement I told you what Valencia are normally able to bring down difficult long balls from Scholes, Pogba and Carrick easily) (2nd Evidence I used stats of his passings completion).
quite predictable going forwards --- (I did admit he was predictable however he is still able to beat or take on his men, as an evidence I used stats)
And if you watch the games, you should know that this season Valencia has been dominating the opposition left flanks.
Could be 5?
I feel like we've come full circle here and back to random stats/opinions. If you live and die by stats that's fine, I guess it worked for the Oakland A's.
I genuinely just think the ones I mentioned are better. Feel free to disagree.
Griezmann, Willian, Fabinho, Alderweireld !!!
I was only trying to tell you that the three stuffs that you mentioned can be viewed by using stats.
Well the thing is that you only said 'better' and disagree with mine but you have no evidence to back it up, while I have the evidence to back up what I have said and against what you have said.
Some CB like Manolas or Khoulibaly
(ok, that list is mostly wishfull thinking from me, only one I am certain about is Griez.)
Not many people seem rate Douglas Costa on here. Mbappe, Lozano, Mertens, Mahrez, Chamberlain all mentioned before him. If Costa is available, we need to go all out for him
Thiago Maia/Reuben Neves
Really have no clue.
Griezmann and a central midfielder who is going to distribute the ball and play every week.
Is he better on the right or the left? I watched him a few times when he played on the left and his crosses were pretty good.
He plays on the Left for Bayern becuase of Robben on the right, he is equally as good on either wing imo. He mainly played on the Right for Shaktar and as a 10 sometimes.
When he is a given a run of games his form is terrifying as we saw last season, but since Ribery is starting out on the left for the majority of the time he is left coming off the bench.
Genuinely think he'd make more of an impact than Griezmann or any other attacker for that matter, we are crying out for a proper winger, someone who can stretch the game and leave a man for dust. That right side would become quite scary with him and Valencia.
D. Costa with the group we have this season would of been electric.
Martial - Mkhitaryan - D. Costa
Pogba - Herrera
Wouldn't have Dybala here after his comments on Pogbas move.
Bakayoko is my biggest want to be honest. And a dream signing would be Pique.
It's genuinely annoying me how so few people are naming a CB. Especially now Jose wants to play 3 CBs!
I don't think I can take another season of Smalling or Jones! And if Mourinho is as smart as I think he is, CB will be priority
I see names that will require close to 300 mil summer transfer budget. One of Griezmann, Lukaku, Auba or Mbappe and 3 guys for 100 mil combined. Even 200 mil is too much, considering that 150 mil was spent last summer already.
I would like to see, Auba, Sanchez, solid 6, CB, and LB.
Why the hell are people not having Juan in their teams. He has been possibly our best attacking player this season.
Zlatan may be leaving, so Dybala/Griezmann
A LB and a CB and Mbappe because every club is after him, so we can sell him for a good profit even if he isn't a great fit here
You say £200m is too much yet ask for Aubameyang, Sanchez and three other players...
I don't watch him but I'm pretty sure one distinct feature is that he's not very quick at all. Kane-like, in terms of physical speed.
Considering Watzke just mentioned 65 eur for Auba, it's possible to get around 200 mil.
That's not really what Watzke said. He was asked if 65 million was enough to get him. He answered that this is all just hypothetical (because he's supposed to stay) and the only thing that's certain is, that if Aubameyang really leaves someday, it would take an exorbitant high amount of money. But the wish is that he stays.
DC - that young one from Atletico perhaps...
You know he is making peanuts on his new contract. Watzke won't adjust his pay. I see Auba leaving this summer.
Depends on how you define peanuts. Right now, there seems to be nothing concrete enough to leave or negotiate to leave. Auba just bought and moved into a new house and has his oldest son registered for his first year in elementary school come this summer. Chances he'll be allowed to leave are less than 50%.
What's the plan if nobody predicts correctly, or if United buy only three players? Who's getting the juicer?
That's a great shout.
But Nzonzi and Herrera are similar - still I would like to see him.
And another if we sell.
To be fair he's buying on discount Wednesday with his B and Q card so it's your maths that are wrong lol
Ok I'm going to have another go.
----Micky (Martial)--------------------Griezmann (Mata)-----------
Think you'll get
based on needs.
On paper that looks like a good summer's worth of business, but I'd say we're more in need of a CB than a right back. I have no idea which one we're most likely to get though. Also, I'd prefer Fabinho over Bakayoko.
Very Difficult to predict the CB signing But if De Gea leaves than we could get Varane in a swap deal or other wise Lindelof looks likely, Alderweireld depends , Marquinhos if he is available and looking for a pay rise, Van Dyk is also a injury prone player and city are instrested in him too so is liverpool so who knows.
We might sign a creative wing player in Perisic, Lucas Moura OX as we realy lack wide players but that depends
If De gea leaves We might get Jan oblak although atletico are transfer banned so it complicates things, and Donnarumma if he's available for right price, Hugo lloris might be an option as well
I think We'll loose the Semendo race to Bayern Munich
None of them
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