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    Cina hell hath no fury like a Cina scorned

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    Not many could, but he's got a good few years in him left, he's most certainly not a winger that's based on pace, which means he won't have to adjust his game like Giggs did when he lost most of his immense pace. I can see him playing at the top level for Chelsea for at least 3 more years.

    Anyway, as good as Nani has become I don't think he's quite comparable to Malouda yet, I still think he's the best winger in the PL, but considering Nani is 6/7 years younger, there's absolutely no reason to suggest that he won't be the countries best at some stage.
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    ciderman9000000 Banned

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    Don't you think the commentary was unfair on him yesterday? I think they were talking about the Nani of old rather than the one playing now. His consistency since February has been at a very high level for a player his age if you ask me. I think he matured after his nearly (rumoured) exiting the club last season and that's fixed his consistency to a level expected of a world-class player.
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    Cina hell hath no fury like a Cina scorned

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    Well just about every station gave him MoTM by the end so I don't think they were THAT harsh. Only really in the first half where he was very frustrating (though I still think he played well and some folks on here were a little harsh on him).

    They're certainly not as bad as in the past, the boy used to get an absolute lashing off commentators whenever he did anything even remotely wrong (which was a lot, to be fair), but now I think they're more of the "well he can be frustrating, but we know he's likely to do something brilliant soon" mould.
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    Brophs The one and only

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    Yeah, it was a bit, Cider, but it still rings true to an extent. I thought he had a lot of ball in good areas -often out wide - and too often he was hitting the full back or not releasing it at the right time. Then again, against say, Arsenal last season he made the right choices most every time, so the potential is there. But then you have other games where it doesn't look so easy for him. Like most young wingers, to be fair.

    I think he's well worth his place in the team as he can produce something special but I'd need to see more from him before he's the 'best' anything. With his potential and the learning curve he's been on I wouldn't bet against him.
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    I've been liking how in the past two games he's been doubled up on a lot but he always seems to find the space to set his right back free, O'Shea. :)
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    Are you talking about Rooney?
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    Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber Thus says Kemo

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    If he only played on the right wing for us, by January he'd be be the best winger in the league bar none.
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    Name Changed weso26

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    Yeah. I'm talking about Nani in the Rooney threads.
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    Cina hell hath no fury like a Cina scorned

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    Well, bar one maybe :) But mostly true, he's just so much better on the right.

    However, I'm of the opinion that he'll be much better in a 4-5-1 on the left than he is in a 4-4-2 on the left, because that formation suits players cutting in and shooting so much better, i.e. Robben
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    i dont think he will reach the heights of Ronaldo, but i believe he will become one of the finest wingers in the world! btw you location is we'll never die, HE'll never die. it needs to be like the first one.
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    Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber Thus says Kemo

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    IMO He is eventually going to become as good on the left as he is on the right. That Bayern game being a glimpse. But him being consistent that way will take some time.
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    ciderman9000000 Banned

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    I had it like the first one originally but some Indian fella told me it was wrong somehow, he said the second line had to be slightly different and showed me how to write it. You reckon it should be the same then?
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    KingMinger22 City >>> United. Moaning twat

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    He's got a lot of potential and is delivering, but not yet as consistently as he will.

    He's still growing as a player, which is very exciting. Right now though, I think Valencia is above him.

    Gareth Bale is looking a frightening prospect. We should make him ours next summer.
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    Cina hell hath no fury like a Cina scorned

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    Level pegging I'd say. They're fairly different wingers anyway, in their style.
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    KingEric7 Conspiracy enthusiast

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    That co-commentator on ESPN wasn't too fond of him. Kept going on about his wastefulness and all that. It was as if the second half of last season didn't actually happen.

    He stopped going on in the second half, obviously.
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    Colin129 Death or the gladioli!

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    Can't really add that much to what has already been said except that I always get excited whenever he's on the ball.
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    نحن أبدا سنموت,نحن أبدا سنموت this is how it should be, Arabic is my first language, i can read it and write it and speak it fluently.

    edit: you could use this too لن نموت ابدا
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    Thought he had a good game yesterday. In general, he wasn't that good in the first half. Had a good shot saved and wasted a chance with a poor touch. But thought he was much better in the second half. Absolutely brilliant goal and a lovely assist.

    If he can perform like he did in the second half all the time, which I well believe he can do as the season goes on, he will be the best out and out winger in the PL.
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    I've been backing Nani from the start and all through his difficult second season to non-believers, but I think his performance from yesterday could have happened at any time during his United career. It was patchy and he was quite wasteful. Some great moments - the goal, the combination with Berbatov in the first half for example, but some poor moments too - that corner, for example, and a couple of really poor touches in great positions in the box, he should have rounded Green instead of blasting it over him too.

    However, I think given a few more games, he'll get more consistancy to his game again.

    I was impressed by the spaces he was getting into, in the channels between defenders, but he frequently was not picked out by those behind him, which is a shame - he can get us a lot more goals, I feel.
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    His improvement in the 2nd of half of last year doesn't look like it was limited to last year. Some of his recent performances are mildly Ronaldo-esque.
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    People are just reading too much into his game. It's like they are forcing to convice themselves that he is doing good. He has been barely above average, but not upto last season end's standards.

    Inconsistent. Scores a good goal and screws up so many other end deliveries. Typical Nani.

    Infact he was playing right wing in the last match and he was a threat till he reached the box. Fizzles out after that.
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    He's clearly improved. Could've easily had a hat trick yesterday. Still a goal and an assist by a winger ain't a bad day at the office.
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    SharkyMcShark Horrified

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    I hope that he remains "barely above average" for some time to come then.

    Seriously though there's maybe one winger outside of our squad in the PL that I'd have over him (Malouda). He's on par with or ahead of every other winger.
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    Agreed. Malouda is playing in league of his own at the moment. Although Nani's improvement and the upside of his youth suggest that he's not far off.
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    olesmyhero Emmy Moses

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    He's clearly been 'barely above average' since the last half of last season. He's put in some very fine performances.
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    I know it is not exactly an 1-to-1 comparison, in terms of impact, I'd still rate Nani below Malouda, Arshavin, Milner & even Guiterrez for that matter.

    I am not saying that he is not talented, but just has not made the kind of impact he is capable of till now.
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    olesmyhero Emmy Moses

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    I'd say based on performances alone, only Malouda would be ahead of him from that list.
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    :lol: Milner and Gutirrez, get a grip.
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    SharkyMcShark Horrified

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    Malouda I'd agree with. Arshavin I don't but it's a reasonable shout. How would you justify saying that Milner (who has spent the better part of two years playing centrally) and Gutierrez?
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    Cina hell hath no fury like a Cina scorned

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    Gutierrez? Milner? fecking hell. He's also been far, far better since January than Arshavin has.

    'Above average'. Christ, does that mean Malouda has just been 'pretty good'?
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    When Rafael is on form, I think the Nani/Evra, Valencia/Rafael combo on the wings is devastating. Our outside play is ridiculously good, but I'm worried about our CM once Scholes retires. Would he just fade away like every old player should and allow us to stop relying on him so much?
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    I think most rational opinions would support Malouda, but not the other three. The new Nani brings far more to the table than the likes of Milner and Guitierez.
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    Like what???

    I did think that Guitterz against Villa and Milner aginst both West Ham & Liverpool had more of an impact to the respective teams than Nani had for us.
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    Milner!??!?!

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