NBA 2018-2019

Discussion in 'Other Sport' started by altodevil, Jun 19, 2018.

  1. Feb 11, 2019 at 16:16

    RobinLFC Cries when Liverpool doesn't get praised

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    Yesterday was ugly from a defensive POV though. We couldn't handle Embiid, Butler, even JJ Reddick got in on the act.

    I simply have no trust in any of our players to take over a game and put it to bed. Far too inconsistent imo.
  2. Feb 11, 2019 at 21:26

    Sean_RedDevil Twitter bot

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    Like Manchester United under Mourinho this season......amazing performances like against Chelsea away, great results like against Juventus away but then so many terrible matches.......of course you can lose against the 76ers but the performance was again shambolic.
    I was a fan of Luke Walton and i have hoped he could lead the team at least to a Conference semi-final but if there's no improvement then the team deserves an new coach next season.

    More off-field problems too
  3. Feb 12, 2019 at 00:31

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    The elephant in the room though is the fact that LeBron is no longer head and shoulders the best player in the NBA. There are now a number of players in the league who are either his equal or at least close to it on offense and he is a shadow of himself on the defensive end. If he can get the Lakers to the playoffs I still believe they will be a difficult "out" because he is still "LeBron" but the fear factor for teams in the West is just not the same as it was against the Eastern Conference. It could be a difficult few months.
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  4. Feb 12, 2019 at 05:05

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    It seems every NBA record belongs to Wilt Chamberlain. Was this guy even real? Madness!
  5. Feb 12, 2019 at 05:37

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    I was shocked when I saw he only won 2 championships.
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    kouroux 45k posts to finally achieve this tagline

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    MVPG13 :D
  7. Feb 12, 2019 at 07:56

    Sarni nice guy, unassuming, objective United fan.

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    He played at the beginning of NBA when the sport was not as popular and not played as widely. It was basically a completely different sport.
  8. Feb 12, 2019 at 07:58

    Sarni nice guy, unassuming, objective United fan.

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    Paul George really is amazing. Russ should defer to him even more I think but I think he’s already made the right choice in allowing him to have way more shots.

    If Russ improves his efficiency to a respectable level they could be a threat to Golden State. OKC are the only West team that could steal a game from Warriors IMO and could even make the series slightly tight under the right circumstances.
  9. Feb 12, 2019 at 07:59

    freeurmind weak willed

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    Giannis is the MVP, ticks all the boxes. Only other player people should really consider voting for is Paul George who has been ridiculous on both ends for OKC.
  10. Feb 12, 2019 at 08:01

    Sarni nice guy, unassuming, objective United fan.

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    I agree but almost certainly Harden will win the award. Bookies don't even see it as a race anymore.
  11. Feb 12, 2019 at 08:11

    syrian_scholes Full Member

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    Why doesn't Harden deserve it though?
  12. Feb 12, 2019 at 08:38

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    As a Houston fan I am sure you think PG or Giannis should win, right? After all, Harden's team isn't in the top 3 of their conference. He's just putting up stats on an insane usage, with an (arbitrary) streak of consecutive 30 point games. All Rockets fans told me seasons ago that wins > stats.
  13. Feb 12, 2019 at 08:39

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    Not at all, I think Harden should win, I mean it's kind of ironic you said stats on high usage as an OKC fan, remember Westbrook?
  14. Feb 12, 2019 at 08:42

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    Harden would deserve it yeah but my personal preference will always go to Georges. I dislike Harden so much
  15. Feb 12, 2019 at 08:46

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    I get that, and as a Rockets fan Harden would be my first choice, but PG13 would be my 2nd.
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    That was my point. So you (at the time) thought Westbrook should have won MVP in 2016-17 season?
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    Nope, but then again your whole argument is about stats, without Harden Rockets would've been 15th in the west atm, he's scoring, defending, he has just been incredible this year.
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    Right. I agree with you. But that is the same as Westbrook in 2016-17.

    I don't see how Houston fans can think Harden should win MVP this year, while also not thinking Westbrook should have won in 2016-17. Seems to be hypocritical that they were all saying Harden should win because his team had more wins than OKC. Better team + similar stats = MVP. But this season they are saying that just because Giannis and PG's teams have more wins and similar stats they shouldn't win.
  19. Feb 12, 2019 at 08:55

    Scarecrow Having a week off

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    You lot really don't give Harden the respect he deserves. Nobody is arguing he is perfect but the "he shouldn't be considered" comments are pure ignorance. Watch a game, he's fecking amazing.
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    Right, I'm not saying Giannis or PG13 shouldn't win, I'm saying there's a case for all of them and in my eyes Harden should be MVP.
  21. Feb 12, 2019 at 08:58

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    Exactly! Before watching clips of him flopping, watch a full game and see how good he actually is.
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    Okay then, that's fair. I thought you were saying it was clear-cut.

    Unless Harden drops off or the others go on an insane streak I think he'll rightfully win it.
  23. Feb 12, 2019 at 09:16

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    Tbf since I watch all Rockets games I kind of appreciate Harden more, just like you with PG13 and Bucks fans with Giannis, since each one of them is doing amazing things for their teams the fans of course will see their player as the best candidate.
  24. Feb 12, 2019 at 10:19

    Sarni nice guy, unassuming, objective United fan.

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    Team record. I'm never in favor of players on non-top 5 teams winning it. Then again the league is screwed anyway in distribution of strength so maybe it's not that important.

    Though I wouldn't say he will be underserved either. I would just prefer Giannis or George getting the nod for the job they've done.
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  25. Feb 12, 2019 at 10:20

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    i'd have Harden and Giannis over PG. Rockets and Bucks would be way lower in the standings without those two, whereas the Thunder would still be decent without PG due to Westbrook (he's just broken the record of most triple doubles in a row fgs). i think Harden gets it.
  26. Feb 12, 2019 at 10:21

    Sarni nice guy, unassuming, objective United fan.

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    Did anyone say he should not be considered?
  27. Feb 12, 2019 at 10:21

    Sarni nice guy, unassuming, objective United fan.

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    OKC would not be in the playoffs without George. Westbrook has been incredibly inefficient this year and has defered to George a lot, which has actually worked out great for them.

    It's kind of telling that Westbrook went 5-21 in the game where he broke the triple double record, and it's not really that much below his average this season. 41.5% FG%, 24.6% from three, 64.6% on free throws. Yet I'd still say he's been having a decent season despite it!
  28. Feb 12, 2019 at 10:23

    Scarecrow Having a week off

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    Well, yes. You even agreed with that comment.
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    Sarni nice guy, unassuming, objective United fan.

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    I missed the "only" part in that post to be honest. You have to be considered if you've carried your team for the entire year and broke all the records he has broken. He has a 36.6 ppg average FFS :lol: He will probably end up over 37 which I think has been done by maybe 3 or 4 other players and Wilt should not really count.
  30. Feb 12, 2019 at 10:27

    Sarni nice guy, unassuming, objective United fan.

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    I'll really not be that disappointed in either of the 3 winning it and to be honest the only reason why I'd prefer George and Giannis is team record which I can also see the point of not being the main factor as long as the team makes the playoffs.

    I'm not a Harden hater by any means, I've defended him a lot in this thread when @charlton66 tried to paint him as a villain!
  31. Feb 12, 2019 at 10:28

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    i'm not saying PG hasn't been great, or shouldn't be in contention, but Westbrook is way better than anyone else not Harden or Giannis on their respective teams. and if it comes down to a close race, i think that counts, when we're talking about how valuable a player is to their team.

    Thunder without PG may not make the playoffs. but i'd hate to think how bad the Rockets would be without Harden, sheesh.
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    Sarni nice guy, unassuming, objective United fan.

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    Yeah I kind of agree with that. Bucks and Rockets would not be in the playoffs without Giannis and Harden either.

    OKC actually have good supporting cast beyond PG and Westbrook as well. Those players just seem to fit together and they play hard. I love Adams and I adore Grant. I hope they can have some good playoffs series, theirs against Warriors in 2015-16 season was beautiful.
  33. Feb 12, 2019 at 11:15

    altodevil Just another Duffy

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    Harden has a virtually identical efg% to George. Before people start calling him a chucker.
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    Sarni nice guy, unassuming, objective United fan.

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    Nobody called him that. He's been efficient.
  35. Feb 12, 2019 at 11:38

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    I don't agree with this. They would struggle so much to close many games without Georges.
    If he gets it he will deserve it without, what he's accomplish is fecking ridiculous. I can't warm to this flopping though, that's beyond my tolerance :lol:

    There is something seriously fecked up with the NBA refs this season. How can you not call that as a travel ? Either they've been told to be extra lenient or they're just plain incompetent
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    cesc's_mullet Get a haircut Hippy!

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    :lol: was it 2011?
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    cesc's_mullet Get a haircut Hippy!

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    1) Freak
    2) Harden
    3) George

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    - Leonard
  38. Feb 12, 2019 at 13:35

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    Villain, villain, cheating bastard, villain! ;)
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    Sarni nice guy, unassuming, objective United fan.

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    Looking at their starting five I reckon Sixers could actually give Warriors some challenge in the finals if they play at their absolute best. Obviously Simmons complete lack of shooting will be a big problem but his defense will also help a lot against Curry and Klay.

    They have three elite defenders (Simmons, Embiid, Butler), two excellent spot up shooters and scorers (Harris, Redick) and can really play many different formations. I’m not convinced about Brett Brown’s ability to coach in clutch moments but personnel wise they’ve built a great team there.
  40. Feb 12, 2019 at 18:19

    Eboue nasty little twerp with crazy bitter-man opinions

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    #hinkiewouldhavewon