Nemanja Matic| BBC says deal agreed

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  1. Jun 15, 2017

    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    So Mata was a cast off as well?

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    sullydnl Ross Kemp's caf ID

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    I'd certainly take Matic over Dier.

    As for how good a signing he'd be, it depends on whether you think he can rediscover the form he showed a couple of years ago. If he did then he'd be an excellent buy.

    If he doesn't? Rather more underwhelming.
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    rocks13 Full Member

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    Absolutely, yes.

    He wasn't getting in the team under Mourinho and they were more than happy to get rid.
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    Mainoldo Full Member

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    Can't say I've watched Chelsea enough to comment on him this season. I here a lot of Fellaini comparisons but they are nothing alike, for one Matic can pass.. well! Only down side don't remember him at all in the 3 games against us last season. Kante could have been playing there alone from all I can remember.
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    CM10 Full Member

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    Yes?
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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    Chelsea's 2 time player of the year dubbed a cast off

    Fecking hell who promoted you two :rolleyes:
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    Ballache Full Member

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    I mean shit I'd rather have Fabinho due to his age and better mobility but saying Matic is a slight upgrade on Fellaini is crazy.
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    flappyjay Full Member

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    He was benched then sold off, mourinho didn't want him. It's not like they called him a Chelsea flop
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    rocks13 Full Member

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    Maybe this will jog your clearly poor memory

    2013–14 season
    Under new Chelsea manager José Mourinho, Mata spent a lot of time on the bench. Mourinho preferred Oscar as a playmaker, and suggested Mata needed to adapt to a wider position and to working harder defensively.[73] On 28 September 2013, Mata came on as a half-time substitute against Tottenham Hotspur to assist John Terry to score an equaliser in a 1–1 draw,[74] but his appearances in the first team remained infrequent. On 29 October, he scored his first goal of the season in a 2–0 League Cup victory at London rivals Arsenal.[75]

    Mata struggled to secure a regular first-team place under Mourinho as he had started just 11 of Chelsea's 22 Premier League matches.
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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    Same principle both are extremely derogatory terms and to use it to describe Chelsea's then back to back player of the year is madness
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    rocks13 Full Member

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    Doesn't matter if he was player of the year 20 times - in 2014 he had a manager who didn't want him, wasn't playing him and the club were more than happy for him to leave. That makes him a cast off in the same way that despite all his achievements in the past most of our fans would like to cast off Wayne Rooney this summer.
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    Runner Full Member

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    He didn't fit into the manager's plans. His seasons pre-mourinho are irrelevant. An upgrade of the player doesn't necessarily hold a negative connotation. It's possible they are just looking for someone more suited to Conte's plans.
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    CM10 Full Member

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    Extremely derogatory? What?
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    Harry190 Full Member

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    Not a Man Utd player.
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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    100% agree which is why calling Matic a cast off isn't a correct definition of his situation at Chelsea should he leave
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    Sterling Archer Full Member

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    Meh. Probably under rating Matic having been ill with muppet fever over Fabinho. But they (Fellaini and Matic) excite me the all the same - not at all.
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    Runner Full Member

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    Cool that we agree. But didn't you use the word cast-off?
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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    No I'm arguing against anyone using that term
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    Runner Full Member

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    Fair enough, I misunderstood. For what it's worth I think Matic could do a job for us and he's worked with Mourinho before. I would imagine his relationship last season with Mourinho during the difficult period will determine how likely this transfer is to happen.
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    Chesterlestreet Man of the crowd

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    He'll be 29 before the seasons starts. And he has looked fairly crap the last times I've seen him, more limited than ever.

    Not exactly a dream signing. Still, he used to be a very effective player. If there's something to this, Mourinho presumably reckons he's capable of regaining that sort of form - and he knows the player well, obviously.

    If he can, he'll be a decent enough addition.
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    All 3 United His tinfoil hat protects him from the Glazers.

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    Nothing really, just the fact we don't seem to have an interest in Fabinho, not being linked with any other DMs of note, we need a DM, sounds like Chelsea are open to offers and Jose has always rated him.
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    Sandikan aka sex on the beach

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    This and the Dier links seem strange.
    As if a rival would sell us one of their players, unless it's for very silly money
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    Alabaster Codify7 Full Member

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    Matic was brilliant at one point but that seems to be a distant memory and, for me, a weird feeling that it now looks like a hardcore purple patch. Coz before those couple of seasons, and since, he's been pretty invisible/forgettable.

    That said, depends on the price. I certainly would rather Matic than Dier but it all comes to down to price and availability. I'd rather spend 40million on Matic than 50million or more on Dier to Daniel Levy, neither will take us to the next level so we may as well save ourselves a bit of cash in the process of going nowhere in midfield terms.
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    Nate Dogg Don't Make Me Angry

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    An Irish Red Full Member

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    I'd prefer him to Dier but I still wouldn't want either of them really.
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    Adisa Full Member

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    FFS!
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    DWelbz19 Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    Relax. It's The Sun.
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    Damien Self-Aware RedCafe Database (and Admin)

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    The Sun are clueless.
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    Welcome to Jose's preferred age group.
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    Nate Dogg Don't Make Me Angry

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    Surely there is better players than him....Fabinho?
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    Robbie Boy Full Member

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    Such a limited player. No way I would want him here.
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    AndyJ1985 Full Member

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    Good enough to win a couple titles with Chelsea, but good enough for the 6th best team in the league? Hell nah.
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    izec Full Member

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    He gave his best years to Chelsea, now it is only going downhill. He is easily replaceable in that Chelsea team for quite some time now.
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    gulli_G Full Member

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    They have Bakayoko coming and using our name to find suitors for him.
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    reddevil702 Full Member

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    One can only dream of the day we see Matic & Fellaini in the same midfield!
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    ravi2 Full Member

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    I would hope matic is our plan 'C'
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    SAFicus New Member

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    :drool:

    :lol::lol:
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    Reafer Full Member

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    Only after he went to United he did, :D Juan Mata, finally one of the trusted players under Mourinho, played a lot and started the EL Finale.

    Back to the thread. Matic is declining but can offer a solid option covering for Pogba and Herrera on that centre midfield slot. Squad player at best. Personally I prefer not and instead opt to give chances to Blind, the kids or new recruit.
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    The sun... :nono:
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    Dont ya just feckin know.
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