Discussion in 'Transfer Forum' started by MaxiPaxi, May 19, 2017.
So Mata was a cast off as well?
I'd certainly take Matic over Dier.
As for how good a signing he'd be, it depends on whether you think he can rediscover the form he showed a couple of years ago. If he did then he'd be an excellent buy.
If he doesn't? Rather more underwhelming.
He wasn't getting in the team under Mourinho and they were more than happy to get rid.
Can't say I've watched Chelsea enough to comment on him this season. I here a lot of Fellaini comparisons but they are nothing alike, for one Matic can pass.. well! Only down side don't remember him at all in the 3 games against us last season. Kante could have been playing there alone from all I can remember.
Chelsea's 2 time player of the year dubbed a cast off
Fecking hell who promoted you two
I mean shit I'd rather have Fabinho due to his age and better mobility but saying Matic is a slight upgrade on Fellaini is crazy.
He was benched then sold off, mourinho didn't want him. It's not like they called him a Chelsea flop
Maybe this will jog your clearly poor memory
Under new Chelsea manager José Mourinho, Mata spent a lot of time on the bench. Mourinho preferred Oscar as a playmaker, and suggested Mata needed to adapt to a wider position and to working harder defensively. On 28 September 2013, Mata came on as a half-time substitute against Tottenham Hotspur to assist John Terry to score an equaliser in a 1–1 draw, but his appearances in the first team remained infrequent. On 29 October, he scored his first goal of the season in a 2–0 League Cup victory at London rivals Arsenal.
Mata struggled to secure a regular first-team place under Mourinho as he had started just 11 of Chelsea's 22 Premier League matches.
Same principle both are extremely derogatory terms and to use it to describe Chelsea's then back to back player of the year is madness
Doesn't matter if he was player of the year 20 times - in 2014 he had a manager who didn't want him, wasn't playing him and the club were more than happy for him to leave. That makes him a cast off in the same way that despite all his achievements in the past most of our fans would like to cast off Wayne Rooney this summer.
He didn't fit into the manager's plans. His seasons pre-mourinho are irrelevant. An upgrade of the player doesn't necessarily hold a negative connotation. It's possible they are just looking for someone more suited to Conte's plans.
Extremely derogatory? What?
Not a Man Utd player.
100% agree which is why calling Matic a cast off isn't a correct definition of his situation at Chelsea should he leave
Meh. Probably under rating Matic having been ill with muppet fever over Fabinho. But they (Fellaini and Matic) excite me the all the same - not at all.
Cool that we agree. But didn't you use the word cast-off?
No I'm arguing against anyone using that term
Fair enough, I misunderstood. For what it's worth I think Matic could do a job for us and he's worked with Mourinho before. I would imagine his relationship last season with Mourinho during the difficult period will determine how likely this transfer is to happen.
He'll be 29 before the seasons starts. And he has looked fairly crap the last times I've seen him, more limited than ever.
Not exactly a dream signing. Still, he used to be a very effective player. If there's something to this, Mourinho presumably reckons he's capable of regaining that sort of form - and he knows the player well, obviously.
If he can, he'll be a decent enough addition.
Nothing really, just the fact we don't seem to have an interest in Fabinho, not being linked with any other DMs of note, we need a DM, sounds like Chelsea are open to offers and Jose has always rated him.
This and the Dier links seem strange.
As if a rival would sell us one of their players, unless it's for very silly money
Matic was brilliant at one point but that seems to be a distant memory and, for me, a weird feeling that it now looks like a hardcore purple patch. Coz before those couple of seasons, and since, he's been pretty invisible/forgettable.
That said, depends on the price. I certainly would rather Matic than Dier but it all comes to down to price and availability. I'd rather spend 40million on Matic than 50million or more on Dier to Daniel Levy, neither will take us to the next level so we may as well save ourselves a bit of cash in the process of going nowhere in midfield terms.
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I'd prefer him to Dier but I still wouldn't want either of them really.
Relax. It's The Sun.
The Sun are clueless.
Welcome to Jose's preferred age group.
Surely there is better players than him....Fabinho?
Such a limited player. No way I would want him here.
Good enough to win a couple titles with Chelsea, but good enough for the 6th best team in the league? Hell nah.
He gave his best years to Chelsea, now it is only going downhill. He is easily replaceable in that Chelsea team for quite some time now.
They have Bakayoko coming and using our name to find suitors for him.
One can only dream of the day we see Matic & Fellaini in the same midfield!
I would hope matic is our plan 'C'
Only after he went to United he did, Juan Mata, finally one of the trusted players under Mourinho, played a lot and started the EL Finale.
Back to the thread. Matic is declining but can offer a solid option covering for Pogba and Herrera on that centre midfield slot. Squad player at best. Personally I prefer not and instead opt to give chances to Blind, the kids or new recruit.
Dont ya just feckin know.
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