Discussion in 'Transfer Forum' started by DanClancy, Nov 30, 2016.
I'm ashamed to say I noticed that too.
Wouldn't blame him.
The funny thing is he actually played against City should unless he pays no attention to the teams Barcelona play against it seems quite a deliberate omission.
Hight level muppetry. I did not even notice it. Respect.
Mourinho also mentioned couple months back that the world record fee will be broken soon...
I think United have been working on Neymar for a number of years. Our owners are making whatever money the manager needs available...We're such a lucky set o fans.
The problem is, and this will always be a problem, it's very difficult for individuals to shine in the Premier League, so the likes of Pogba and Neymar will always be seen as 'not worth the money'.
But how do we fit Pogba, Martial, Mkhi, Rashford, Mbappe, Griezmann and Neymar all in at the same time????
well obviously you play 3 at the back!!!!
Aye, where would be without uncle Malc.....
If we get Neymar, I would love us to get Moyes back so he could put him on the wing and ask him to cross.
Does anyone know his actual release clause? Is it not something like 250m euros, it's insane. Highly doubt he will go this year, the tax case in Spain could be an issue to leave the country. He's a dream player and can change a game with a moment of ridiculous skill. I would love to see Neymar at United, he's one of the few things I like about Barca. Highly doubtful we will ever see him at United. I don't think he's leaving this summer. It's going to be a real muppet fest this summer with know no international tournament.
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Bench: Romero, Martial, Mkhi, Rashford, Mbappe, Griezmann, Neymar.
180m pounds but it goes up every year so it's basically this summer or wait until his contract winds down.
Castles had an article about it a few months ago, he called his new deal a sticky plaster and the relations between player and club were not resolved.
I could see his happening at some point in the future.
Why not take on a new challenge after years at Barca and having won everything there?
Good for his brand and bank account too.
I think the fee would be way more than that if it were ever to happen.
Exactly what I thought
Both Neymar and Messi have improved on their shooting. There's definitely something that has happened there. I wonder if they have some kind of coach that helped them find a new technique. Neymar is finally starting to grow into the role as a superstar.
Messi improved his shooting as compared to how he was as a toddler?
Yeah I know, i said break the 100m mark, as is 100+! Honestly think with marketing and the future scope we'd have in the Brazilian market (which we currently have no positive position in) would be a positive transfer.
Obviously all that is based on him performing to the standards he's already set, or improving further once he has the main man status!
That's too attacking for Jose. Swap Pogba and Herrera for TFM and Tuanzebe and we're ready to go.
Why does he do this to us, ffs.
I imagine he'll leave Barca at some point and as much as I always thought it would be to Real ( the next Figo ) he's sounding out the premiership most likely for financial reasons, though I don't see how he'd earn that much more here than in Spain the way they pay their superstars.
He'd instantly be the highest paid player in the league and likely for a world record fee so he's pocketing double figures for a signing on fee, And since I rate him on at least a par with Hazard with arguably better finishing, there's no problem with him fitting the bill. He clearly loves that left side though and I'd rather develop Martial there and save €100m minimum.
When he had his best spell for Barca during A more lengthy Messi injury, does anyone remember if he played more centrally or did he still come from the left? He was unreal during that period and I'd be more inclined to get him if he knew he'd perform well centrally.
If Neymar was to join, which he won't, he'd comfortably be the best player in the league. He's on his way to being the best in the world, if he isn't already. (I'd argue he is given how he consistently manages to single handedly win games in which his team is struggling)
Also during that spell he still played out wide, but took a lot more responsibility in his play. Was the creative force as well as the finisher.
He's still some way off being the best in the world IMO, and this season he has gone missing for large spells.
I mean, if he insists
Messi is still better against the minnow teams, but when it comes to big games there isn't a player in the world I'd take over Neymar. He seems to thrive off pressure.
I suppose another way to look at it " Ah well feck it " type mentality. As you say, he does thrive with his back against the wall and often reverts to what you'd expect of him in a street game in Brazil. His free kick v PSG, who even shoots from there at that stage in the game knowing there was the slightest chance a goal just might be enough to bring hope back for the remaining 6/7 minutes.
I do think he'd perform better away from Messi, similar to Bale without Ronaldo. Credit to the two of them though, as even though all things considered they are worth more investment at this stage, you never hear either of them doing/saying anything to try and put themselves above the top boy at their respective teams.
Have you not noticed the power in his free kick of lately?
No it's not. Aguero has aced the league for years. Ibra is shining at 35. Hazard destroys teams when he's firing. Ronaldo and Bale dominated. Suarez scored goals at Messi and Ronaldo rates and really took the piss in his last season.
Pogba was never worth a world record fee because he isn't a proper elite player yet and importantly we've paid for his potential. People can try and make excuses all they want but that's the case and he has to ion out the flaws himself. Neymar is on a completely different. It's almost an insult to the latter to put him alongside Pogba currently. He's one of the world's best footballers and would be this leagues best player if he came.
Griezmann or Neymar? Decisions, decisions....
Don't see us getting him but if there is a chance then we should go all in, he is the heir to Messi/CR7 as the worlds best and would make us a genuine threat in the CL provided we qualify.
Martial over the next best player in the world. People have such a strange attachment to him
Well, there are stipulations in his contract- decided upon by people with much more football knowledge than you and I- that we pay Monaco more money if he wins a ballon d'or. Now, we've all witnessed what he's capable of and there are no reasons to suggest he won't mature and perform more consistently over the years. I'd just like to see the people who made the decision to sign him proved right
Bale, Aguero, Ronaldo, Rooney, Henry, Zola, Shearer, Suarez, etc., etc. all say hello. There have been outstanding individuals in the Premier League - if they are good enough and play at a very high level they stand out like a sore thumb. If Neymar was to come to the premiership he would instantly be the best player in the league (by quite a distance) if he plays to the same level he has at Barcelona.
In the last 15-years, only 1 Premier League player has won Ballon D'Or. In the last 35-years, 2.
There's no doubt that individuals shine more in other leagues. Players you've mentioned such as Shearer, Rooney, Aguero - would all shine more in La Liga for example just as Ronaldo and Bale have.
Managers approach the Premier League in a much more pragmatic way, stemming the brilliance of oppostion individuals. I know there are cases of individual brilliance in the Premier League over the years, but it's much easier to stand out in La Liga or Serie A or Lige Un or even Bundesliga.
I disagree and as I stated in my post there are numerous examples of players who have been individually outstanding in the league. I hope you aren't trying to make this point just because Pogba has been completely unable to manage it.
Nope- nothing to do with Pogba. I think Pogba's performances have been as expected this season.
I just know from watching the sport over the years that it is harder for individuals to shine in the EPL. It's not rocket science, it's obvious.
Gareth Bale has scored 54 goals in 84 appearances for Real Madrid. He didn't even manage that amount of goals in 176 appearances in the EPL. Ronaldo 84 goals in 154 EPL appearances. 279 goals in 234 La Liga appearances.
There's no argument about this; the greatest players shine more in other leagues other than the EPL.
I would wager what he actually said was just 'Manchester'. And as we all know, foreign players mean only one club.
Has it occurred to you that some of those players went on to play for much better clubs at their peak? It's not rocket science, it's obvious.
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