Discussion in 'Manchester United Forum' started by Tom Van Persie, Dec 18, 2018.
Which is it then?
Would be very surprised if the Glazier's don't take Fergie and Charlton's word, otherwise there wouldn't be much point in them being there.
@Grylte is right.
You need to read up on our organisation. Fergie and Charlton has no formal say in who we appoint as our next manager. It’s purely a Glazer decision.
No idea how the dynamics are there, to be fair, though Fegie lost a lot of power by recommending Moyes to them.
Regardless, I think that Ole will get the job, providing that the remaining games are not a disaster. If it continues like this, no doubt that he has earned it, and I see the board being unanimous on hiring him permanently.
It's Ole straightforward if you speak Norwegian/Swedish.
It's not Ole if you speak English. Vowels in Norwegian make completely different sounds than in English.
Ole in English sounds like Oh-lly. In English the Norwegian Ole is supposed to sound Ool-a.
No, it's very easy. "Ole", but the E is pronounced like the E in "send", not the E from the alphabet.
This should help.
Stockholm, i love and hate this city at the same time.
Of course, but the question was in relation to the Norwegian pronunciation and not the English, right?
Same. Stockholm is great but I very much have a love hate relationship with it, don't get me started on the football watching culture...
When dealing with pronunciation you're supposed to use letters from the alphabet, not from random words.
If it was Ole straightforward in English you wouldn't be hearing every English speaker on telly calling him Oh-lly. So no, it's not 'very easy'.
Well, we're on an English speaking forum. The correct pronunciation in Norwegian is Ole but how on earth are English speakers supposed to know what Ole sounds like in Norwegian if we don't break it up in English?
Just saying 'the pronunciation is Ole' doesn't really clear up anything for English speakers.
Sure, but the guy DID ask for the Norwegian pronunciation and @Grylte gave him a decent breakdown.
You don't know what you're talking about, mate. The example word is not random, it's from this page (https://www.londonschool.com/blog/phonetic-alphabet/) and is an example based on how to pronounce sounds in the phonetic alphabet. Every English person can pronounce that sound.
Wanderlei Luxembergo says hi
Finally the day has come!
Never thought i'd experience a day someone said those words about me
Coming from roughly the same part of Norway as Solskjær, i should know this better than the Danish speakers in Oslo
You are also from Møre and Romsdal?
For those struggling with pronunciation:
So do you approve of the video that crossy posted?
Sogn og Fjordane, so close enough
It's not horrible, sounds like it's a guy...kid, from India or thereabouts. If i'm right in that, it's a decent pronounciation by a non-Norwegian.
I actually found that video once when i was googling to try to find a clip with the correct pronounciation, but chose not to use it.
How the feck did this headcase ever manage to become such a successful manager?
Hope it’s true.
If the other option is Poch, I’d rather stick with Ole and get a good DoF in to manage transfers, long-term strategy etc.
Would honestly rather have Zidane if we insisted on a new manager but that has gone quiet now.
The post before yours is better, obviously
As a fellow Møring, not really.
Ah. Your tagline makes so much sense now.
To be fair, I couldn't hear the one I posted properly, I'm at work and I didn't want to blast it out.
I speak Swedish though and it sounded similar to how you would pronounce it in Swedish.
I actually took the post down anyway, felt a bit bad for laughing at what sounds like a 12 year old
But if I asked how Blaszczykowski is pronounced in Polish I would be looking for a breakdown in English. Not in Polish because that wouldn't be of much help.
Keep it in the family!
I hate speculating but he could be suffering from depression.
A breakdown in English wouldn’t help you saying Blaszcykowski in Polish. The man asked for the Noggie pronunciation, not the English one. It’s over mate.
I am all for Ole getting the job permanently. More than anything though, I would love to see our DOF appointment happen as soon as possible so we can see how they work together over the remaining months of the season. I know there may not be any physical way we can see this due to the DOF’s main barometer of success being bringing in new players that fit the philosophy and profile of the club BUT things like “oh he’s fitting in brilliantly” or “he understands what this club is all about” quotes from Ole/Ed/Players would give positive messages.
This relationship is vital because the one area I don’t necessarily trust anyone at the club currently, is player recruitment. Realistically, Ole’s main job is to keep the players happy and motivated, which we know he’s brilliant at, because the tactical side is never going to be a one person mastermind approach. We have Mick, Kieran and Michael all helping and I trust the ‘Hive mind’ of those four to be able to put together a decent plan and to change things on the fly when we need to.
I genuinely don’t think Poch or Zidane can add anything other than the eye for a good player (Poch) or the draw of the superstar manager (Zidane) that Ole AND his team isn’t currently bringing and those things would be negated by an exciting DOF appointment with a great track record.
Get them in, let them all work together, then assess what we have as a complete dynamic nearer the end of the season.
I doubt it but I can understand your point. I think it's more of a case of he came in thinking he would get Ferguson levels of autonomy, only to realise United is the way it is for a reason and you don't get to change or mould much, and the things that are non-negotiable at United probably aren't inline with his philosophies in football.
I've worked at places myself where I just haven't bought into the ethos as I just didn't believe what they were doing was the best way to do things, that has ultimately seen me leave positions. I'd bank on him feeling the same. Sometimes it just doesn't fit like you thought it would.
Either he’s been depressed for years or that’s not it. Personally think he’s just getting older - young energetic and charismatic arsehole becomes old grumpy arsehole.
The E in English sounds different from word to word. Just look at the two E's you capitalized in your post 'Every English', both E's make different sounds.
As I said, if every English speaker knew how to pronounce Ole you wouldn't be hearing so many people calling him Oh-lly.
Still there is a lot to be done tactically and on the players’ level. Staff should work with De Gea on ball distribution, for example - it just requires additional specific training. There are other players with whom they have to work on particular aspects, too
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