Ole's Press Conference | 05:30 BST

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    DoomSlayer Full Member

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    Mate, please tell me which manager will go against the Glazers. Please, please, please do it so we can get him and see what happens, since it's so obvious Ole will feck everything up and get sacked.
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    NJM78 Full Member

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    Who said Manchester? I would like to test this theory also and I dont give a flying feck how I quoted anything, you read it didnt you?

    And considering I was supporting this club before you were born I will say whatever I feel about the club, manager, players etc because this a forum. It is the point of the website! I don't agree with a lot of the stuff said in here either but from one keyboard warrior to another and in the most polite way possible... get fecked.
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    What prevents him from going against them? He will get sacked if he enters the season with the current squad and he will sacked if he repels against the board.

    If you are getting sacked anyway, why not leave on a strong point that you didn't like the way of managing the club or the transfer business, and as a club legend you will have full support from the fans and will put the board into a corner, instead of getting sacked because you tried to act like a positive guy and that backfired on you, so you won't really have any kind of excuse when you leave, as you seemed totally content in public with the board fecking up the squad earlier?

    Feels like a no brainer for me.
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    Gasolin Full Member

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    Yeah I gave up. Everytime I ask what's that about, I am asked to go back to American football cause my tag says NYC, that I am brainwashed by the Glazers, whatever... not that I deny all the problems of the club but I can't believe people would want Ole to show all the problems of the club in public. There is a high chance nobody can pay what United want for Pogba and Lukaku so if they stay, we play with them.
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    DoomSlayer Full Member

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    I couldn't care less if you supported the club since the 19th century buddy, you aren't being scary with that pseudo-tough talk. Would love to tell you a thing or two myself, but I'd rather keep in line with the RedCafe rules.

    It still doesn't excuse your poor understanding of how to navigate the forum functions, for such an elderly and loyal fan, it's a bit embarrassing but it is what it is.
    Ok, Ole gets sacked then. Let's pretend I agree with that. Who comes next, who will be the saviour? I'm just curious for your suggestions.
    You are an excellent and very rational poster mate. It seems the Caf is seriously lacking on those specific characteristics these days.
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    el3mel Full Member

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    That's a completely different point though. I am not saying he's the problem, that the major problem is not in the board, or the next manager will have a bigger success rate.

    The point is how can I support a manager against the board when he himself looks fully content with what is offered to him and decided to act like a yes man for such board? Doesn't make any kind of sense to me. For me to support him against the board he needs to show his discontent about the way the club is managed. Otherwise he won't have any excuses when he is sacked thanks to these players, because he looked totally fine in public by how the summer business is going. By going that route he will be someone to be blamed then, not the board alone.
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    DoomSlayer Full Member

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    So you are basically saying you won't support any of our future managers? At least it's consistent so I get it.

    I don't agree but I understand your position. Personally, there is nothing that can stop me or change my mind in supporting Ole. As long as you don't become extremely abusive like some of the others, I'd respect your opinion. But will never let anyone curse or type obscenities about Solskjaer without a proper deserving reply. Hope you get my point of view as well.
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    el3mel Full Member

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    He's the United manager, so tactically and playing wise I will support him when he's doing well and criticize him when he does wrong, just like any manager.

    but in terms of manager vs board, if he said in public he's content with what is offered to him and liked the transfer business we are doing the summer, I won't be able to excuse him for that. I will criticize the board, but he will also hold his share of criticism if he liked what the board offered.

    Anyway let's hope it will go fine and we won't need all this.
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    DoomSlayer Full Member

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    Fair and deserved criticism is fine. What isn't is going overboard and becoming abusive about it, which is the case in a lot of posts in this thread.

    I have the utmost faith in Ole, he just fills me with confidence despite the utter wankers we have in our board like Woodward and all his minions.
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    Lets not jump the gun. Ole will have to work with what he has got first off. We are in a transitional period hopefully where Ole can influence Woodward and the board to make correct decisions over time. Realistically getting the owners and their main man out is a hard ask, especially so for an unproven manager going into his first full season. He'll just get the sack if he causes uproar and why would he focus on that instead of proving himself by getting the most out of the team he has. I have to take a leap of faith an believe changes are being made based on the last years, and that the club is not faffing around in the dark.

    As for him being a yes man, I only see that as a clear negative if Woodward has no self-awareness which of course is a possibility. If Woodward and the board are willing to evolve based on previous mistakes, then a good working relationship is the best thing the fans can hope for if we're to see some positive changes not too far down the line.

    We have some parallel problems that the board has managed to create and those are easy to solve quick. It all trickles down to the team components and what the manager has to work with, but quick fixes is what got us in this mess. That is what I hope the rebuild is about, not just about getting English players in or swap Pogba for Erikson, but actual changes that we can build on. Making changes to things like the wage-structure and reputation in the transfer-market are things that might hurt us in the short-term but make us more stable in the long run.

    I don't see Ole as being this ignorant yes man, doing stupid things because he is told so. I think he has a vision, sold the club on it and got the job on the back of that combined with some of the football we displayed.. and also, yes his likability with the fans.

    Hopefully the majority of fans understand this and doesn't make a fuzz out of every little negative we'll see because there will be plenty. It is only if it makes sense, or if it doesn't. Signing on Jones amongst other things doesn't make sense if the purpose is to trim and improve the squad, but if the priority was to make sure we sell some players with value while assuring we're not thin in numbers then it is understandable. I strongly disagree with that particular decision and find it counterproductive, and don't think it was a good one, we have to move on sooner rather than later but at least you can imagine why that happened without thinking Glazers is saving money while Ole is a yes man.
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    It may be true, but I don't know if you see the irony of that statement. We used to say United was being used by Madrid's players to get a rise... if would be hilarious if Pogba is using Madrid to get a rise!

    Btw keep it up guys, I find it amazing we can talk about soups and flies in the soup in a press conference thread! That's why I love RedCafe! :lol:
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    Bastian Full Member

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    I liked Rashford's interview. Classy, composed, mature.
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    Gasolin Full Member

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    I like it too, but it's clear he's getting briefed. Nothing wrong with that, all the players should be briefed. No more drama.
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    Bastian Full Member

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    Rooney could be briefed for months and would never come across like Rashford did today. He's mature and level headed. I keep forgetting how young he really is, just because he hangs out with Lingard. He'll be some player in the coming years.
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    Gasolin Full Member

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    Haha when you put it that way, that's correct. But I think young Rooney, when briefed, was probably like a bit like that. It's arrogance and ego that change people. What I loved about Rashford in this interview was not what he said, but all the non verbal communication. His stance, and the small nod to show he's trying to capture the question correctly, etc... it shows attention and focus (true or not) and make people feel valued.
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    Bastian Full Member

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    Yeah, you could brief them all, but they'd have to agree with it. I kinda think it's from himself. And stressing that everyone needs to take responsibility as individuals and as a team is exactly what he should be sounding out to the rest of them. He tried too hard at times last season, had errors in his decision making and whatnot, but unlike so many of his teammates, he ran his heart out and fought for 90 minutes each time. I think he was carrying that ankle injury for weeks at the end of the season, still playing (Henderson, the cnut). He definitely cares a great deal.
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    He'sRaldo New Member

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    That'd be tragic. Imagine him reading all these posts, I reckon he'll have to stop visiting for his own sake.
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    Imagine the shock when he will say during a press conference that he's been reading in a certain forum that he was a "yes man" :lol:.
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    Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær Lutefisk is it!

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    :lol:

    I hope he notices me. :o
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    Bondi77 New Member

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    If the existing bunch of players put in the same amount of effort that they did when Ole first arrived then we would be short odds to make top three this season so with quality additions we should be fine;
    It is all about desire and attitude.
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018 Scout

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    He even said "I don't get it too much of it, Karen sends me once in a while, a little notes. When I'm out there speaking to fans, they are very positive"



    Looks like he is talking about the toxic twitter cnuts who keeps abusing every player.
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    DoomSlayer Full Member

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    Exactly. I never thought that RedCafe would stoop as low as the vitriol and absolute BS that is being spewed on Twitter. People on there being racist, xenophobic, calling players and the manager derogatory terms on a daily basis.

    It totally disillusions me as I never thought that we have so many disgusting supporters, kind of makes me question what future we actually have as a football club.
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018 Scout

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    Most of them don't watch full press conference or read articles. Just headline and quote without context, then can't wait to lose their shit.
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    Rams aspiring to be like Ryan Giggs

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    It’s hardly the most outstanding example of somebody eating humble pie or whatever. At the end of the day he also has to be a people manager and to start pre season off by making threats to his squad in public would be bad leadership and would damage the squads morale.
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    Have you ever worked in an office mate? If you have can you get away with criticizing your boss publicly? And let's say you did it and got sacked (as you alluded in one of your previous posts), how many other employees do you think will be lining up to hire you? After you've publicly slagged off your boss.

    It's very easy calling someone a "yes man" but you have to recognize the ground reality also.
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    It's the type of shit talking that Mourinho was slammed for, I wonder if Ole will be labelled a bullshiter in the same vein?
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    Tincanalley Turns player names into a crappy conversation

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    Really? Always is a big word. Always works sitting at a keyboard, but not generally in field sports.
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    Tincanalley Turns player names into a crappy conversation

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    Makes sense
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    Enigma_87 You know who

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    Let it go mate. He doesn't understand this at all.
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    Enigma_87 You know who

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    Have you seen Poch pressers last year and this year when he gets questioned about transfers? You can still show discontent with how things are going and he's still in a job, isn't he?
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    Were you supporting Jose last season then ? Because he publicly showed his discontent it backfired and got him sacked!
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    Tincanalley Turns player names into a crappy conversation

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    This sounds reasonable;but I have to look at this presser yet.
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    Tincanalley Turns player names into a crappy conversation

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    What do you mean?
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    tenpoless Full Member

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    You can criticize your boss especially if you have an important role in the team but definitely not by shit talking about him. Play smart. Say something like "I think X can be improved because of Y..." talk about the objects not the subjects. Talk about improving things for the benefit of the team. Don't attack the person, hint at improvements.

    Of course football manager aren't ordinary office managers. Maybe Ole was just trying to be positive as He knew it didn't really matter if He complained or showed dissatisfaction, the market has been becoming worse and worse + We're not in a place of being able to cherry pick players. If He said He wasn't happy that some of the players are still here it'll only make things harder for him.. seeing how We're struggling to get rid of them.

    He played it smart and safe but perhaps could have been better with his choice of words.
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    kouroux 45k posts to finally achieve this tagline

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    Poch is much more experienced than Ole, a lot of things we as fans, have no clue of, are at play here. It's unfair to say Ole should have said this or that
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018 Scout

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    Poch also said "club is trying everything to sign a player" when they signed 0 players last season. More often than not, he protected their board when they didn't spend any money.
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    DoomSlayer Full Member

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    And he would do exactly the same if he came here. I honestly have no idea what type of manager do some fans believe exists that would come straight after the start of his first pre-season and lay a ton of shit against his employees and the people he has to work with for presumably long time.

    We don't have Sir Alex anymore and probably never will again. Realising that is part of identifying where the main issue lies, i.e. the core structure of the club.
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    Enigma_87 You know who

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    Both have managed clubs for similar amount of time. Ole have been manager for a decade now. People seem to forget that.
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    Enigma_87 You know who

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    He also came out and say he didn’t have a final say on transfers.
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018 Scout

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    Yeah, how is that criticizing? That's how it should be. Manager running the transfers is not sustainable.