Our best XI (without Pogba)

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  1. Sep 26, 2018
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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    A Pogbaless Manchester United looks like it may be a reality both in the short term and the long so how should we line up without him and how good would that line up be?

    I feel a switch back to Mourinho's 4-2-3-1 would be a cert so i hope something like this is what we'd see

    ---------------De Gea---------------
    Valencia--Smalling--Lindelof--Shaw
    -------Herrera-------Matic-------
    Lingard-------Sanchez-------Martial
    ---------------Lukaku---------------

    I did think Mata back on the right and Lingard as the number 10 but then we'd still be stuck with Sanchez on the left
  2. Sep 26, 2018
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    R10Football New Member

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    We should make a thread for our Best XI without Mourinho since we are doing a thread for each.
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    Jeppers7 Full Member

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    Dire
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    rio's upper lip Full Member

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    That's an extremely depressing line-up.
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    TMDaines Full Member

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    Let’s quietly ignore this thread...
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    abdo99 Full Member

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    That looks like a midtable team.
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    Rozay Master of Hindsight

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    That team will get us nowhere.
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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    Seriously? Pogba transforms it that much?
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    abdo99 Full Member

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    Not so much the players but their positioning as well. Lingard on the right and Sanchez are number 10 is a big no. Valencia is finished. It's missing Fred, Fellaini and Bailey as well.
    Maybe this is better:

    DDG
    Dalot Smalling Bailly Shaw
    Periera Fred
    Mata Fellaini Martial
    Sanchez

    Fellaini has to be in the team until someone better arrives. The only time we look like we have a plan is with Fellaini on the pitch so if he starts my thinking is we don't need Lukaku as much and it opens up a space for Sanchez to play uptop like he did for Arsenal.
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    Ødegaard formerly MrEriksen Scout

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    De Gea
    Dalot - Bailly - Smalling - Shaw
    Matic
    Fred - Herrera
    Sanchez - Lukaku - Martial
    Would be my choice.
    Although I think Valencia is currently better than Dalot I think Dalot delivers a better cross (from the little I've seen), something we will sorely need with any of our players on the right. Could also change the front 3 to Lukaku - Rashford - Martial. Lukaku is our best crosser from the right, and Rashford is a horrible dribbler but has pace to get behind a defense.
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    kidbob Full Member

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    As expected it's slightly more depressing than a best 11 with Pogba in it.
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    Midfield isn't creative enough, Lindelof needs improving and an actual RW needs to be brought in. If those changes were made and Dalot secures the RB spot to replace Valencia, it's not too bad on paper.
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    iluvoursolskjær Full Member

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    Goes to show how much creativity we lose by removing Pogba. We struggle retaining the ball and initiate attacks as is...that all looks terrible.

    Martial - Lukaku - Sanchez

    Mata

    Herrera - Fred

    Shaw - smalling - Bailley - dalot
    DDG
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    starman Full Member

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    De Gea
    Young Smalling Rojo Shaw
    Fred Matic
    Mata
    Rashford Sanchez Martial

    Also switch to 4-4-2

    De Gea
    Young Smalling Rojo Shaw
    Fred Matic
    Mata Sanchez
    Rashford Martial
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    UNITED ACADEMY New Member

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    DDG
    Young/Valencia - Smalling - Whoever - Shaw
    Fred Matic
    Pereira Sanchez Rashford
    Martial

    Pereira to stay more in midfield position and provides support for midfield with Rashford & Martial keep switching role to shuffle the opposition defense.

    I'm not a fans of Lukaku, so I'll take him out.
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    CA_vampire Full Member

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    Another possibility:
    De Gea
    Dalot - Bailly - Smalling - Shaw
    Matic - Fellaini
    Fred
    Lingard - Lukaku - Sanchez
    With Dalot and Shaw contributing to attack, and Fellaini dropping back as 3rd central defender when needed.

    We have options. Things are not as terrible as people make them to be.
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    DDG
    Dalot - Smalling - Lindelof - Shaw
    Matic
    Fred - Pereira
    Lingard
    Lukaku - Sanchez​

    Pereira is our only other attacking midfielder so he will need to play. Rest are the same.
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    klsv Full Member

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    We won't be selling Pogba before getting one or two players to replace him in the same window.

    Thank feck you're not the manager then.
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    the_irish123 New Member

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    To play a midfield 3 without Pogba is extremely stupid. Name me a top team that only attacks with 3 players. Barcelona only do it because they have Messi.
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    Herrera, Fred, Pereira would be good short term - would be a good technical, press resistant midfield
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    Pereira can play as a right wing, surely better than mata and lingard there.

    De Gea
    Dalot Bailey Lindeloff Shaw
    Pereira Fred Matic Martial
    Sanchez Lukaku

    442 without pogba is where we should go.
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    Our creativity is bad enough at the best of times, imagine it without Pogba. These lineups are tragic.
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    UNITED ACADEMY New Member

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    I can see the difference between a world class striker and Lukaku.
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    Vidyoyo Self-confessed coffee shop chat-up expert

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    Matic, Fellaini and McTominay :drool:
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    Mainoldo Full Member

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    Considering he’s our only creative spark compared to hoof ball to Fellaini. Yes! Sevilla showed us that.
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    Mcking Full Member

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    Barcelona do attack with Four. I will name Madrid, Liverpool, Chelsea and Juve to an extent.
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    De gea​
    Valencia Smalling Lindelof Shaw​
    Matic​
    Fellaini Herrera​
    Lingard Lukaku Sanchez​
    People have to remember that Jose is still the manager and the boss.
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    DDG
    Dalot-Smalling-Lindelof-Shaw
    Fellaini
    Fred-Pereira
    Sanchez-Martial
    Lukaku​
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    -----------------DDG--------------------

    -------Bailly - Smalling - Lindelof------

    -Dalot-----------------------------Shaw

    -----------------Matic--------------------

    --------Fred-------------Sanchez--------

    -----------Lukaku---Rashford-------------


    I would like to see something like this
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    wolvored Full Member

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    I think Fellaini does better as a sub. He doesnt have the same impact when playing the full game imo
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    wolvored Full Member

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    How about 4-1-4-1. Make Sanchez play from the right
    De Gea
    Dalot Smalling Lindelof Shaw
    Matic
    Sanchez Fred Periera Martial
    Rashford
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    el3mel Full Member

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    Put Sanchez and Martial as strikers and Pereira beside Fred and I will love this.
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    Martial Rashford
    Young Fred Fellaini Mata
    Shaw Smalling Bailly Dalot
    deGea​
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    abdo99 Full Member

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    True but we never play direct to him when he starts. We try to make him play as this controlling midfielder and he's always too slow for this. Just play to our strengths from the start and think of another plan B. Hoofing to Fellaini as much as we hate it is our biggest strength.
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    abdo99 Full Member

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    I got a better one:
    DDG
    Valencia -- Smalling -- Jones -- Young
    Matic
    Fellaini -- McTominay
    Herrera
    Lingard -- Lukaku

    Jose's dream team.​
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    De Gea
    Dalot Smalling Lindelof Shaw
    Fred Matic
    Lingard Sanchez Martial
    Lukaku

    Fred played in a double pivot at points for Shaktar I believe, and Matic has played one with Kante, so neither would need much time at all to be comfortable in the Role.
    As for Sanchez and Lukaku, neither are really doing it for us at the minute, so I would make sure to let them though if they don't up their performance then
    Rashford, Pereira, Mata, Martial etc are all comfortable playing in their positions.
    Fred will be pretty pivotal, as he is great at breaking the lines which will make us more creative hopefully.
    In the next transfer window we still really need that talisman attacker, someone Cantona/Ronaldo/Rooney level.
    Players like these mask deficiencies in the squad, whereas some of our forwards at the moment seem to highlight them.
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    Right now given Sanchez has been awful and Matic is moving like an oil tanker, I'd probably say this is the best, you could interchange Fred for Pereira but I think the latter is a better passer and we'd need that without Pogba in the 11. Truth is though any 11 without Pogba is a mid table team, with him we barely look like a top 4 side at the moment.

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    breakout67 Full Member

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    Pogba isnt going to play at all? We are going to sell Pogba and not get a replacement?

    I would like to think that the board are not so inept to sell Pogba and not get a top midfielder in since he'll fetch a pretty penny.
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    Mcking Full Member

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    An intelligent 442 diamond with tactical discipline and tactical awareness they say.
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    abdo99 Full Member

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    Yep. And players running through brick walls.