Ousmane Dembele

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  1. Apr 18, 2017
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    beingshe7don Full Member

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    Everyone on the Cafe is aware how talented Ousmane Dembele is and I would trade Dembele for Martial in a heartbeat. Here's the URL linking him to United. What do you guys think? The figure been thrown around is 50M for a 19 year old with a very high ceiling when it comes to potential. If we are interested in him, does he have what it takes to excel under Mourinho's tutelage?

    Would it be worth a try to throw in Martial to sweeten the deal with Dortmund?

    http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/17/jose-...usmane-dembele-from-borussia-dormund-6580635/

  2. Apr 18, 2017
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    Hojoon Full Member

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    Metro comes up with stories up their asses. I'm sure we've been looking at him along with other big clubs in the past 2-3 years because he's been ripping teams apart since youth levels (Mbappe's the same), but getting him is another story.
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    Pscholes18 Full Member

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    This means nothing...every day we are linked to a new player and it all it just bollocks. Besides watching that vid just reinforces that if he came, he would be wasted....look how they play....certainly a far cry from what we do week in week out.
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    beingshe7don Full Member

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    I agree with you that Metro could have just come up with it. However when the whole world is going goo goo gaa gaa over Mbappe, maybe we can sneak Dembele since he's exceptional. I mean he's got the same talent ceiling as Ronaldo.
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    Hanky panky New Member

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    Goes to Bayern in summer 2018 for something like 40 million euros. ;)
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    Red_toad Full Member

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    Yeah let's not sign anyone as we'll turn them gash :smirk:
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    SATA Full Member

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    I've not seen him much but he's incredibly frustrating from that clip. Let's just fix Martial first before buying another one like that again
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    amolbhatia50k Sneaky bum time

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    50 million? Worth it.
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    Womp Full Member

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    He's a completely different player to Martial, also more talented.
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    Womp Full Member

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    Also, I don't see him leaving, not for another few years anyway
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    Hojoon Full Member

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    Mbappe's stolen the media spotlight but Dortmund probably aren't stupid and rate him highly, along with several clubs. I rate Dembele highly and I think he's got it in him to be a top 3 player in the world, maybe even the best depending on circumstances but Ronaldo (assuming the Portuguese) is a top 15 player ever. I don't see Dembele reaching that level and that's not even a criticism.
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    Roosney Full Member

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    This. Looks just like Martial last year.
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    Hanky panky New Member

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    I don't see Dembele reaching Ronaldo's level either but i rate Ronaldo top5 ever. Messi could be the best ever and Ronaldo is not far from Messi's level. Can't see anybody reaching their level (that 50 league goals level) anytime soon. Maybe somebody can do it again inside next 20 years, maybe.
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    antohan gets aroused by tagline boobs

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    That Japanese guy in the clip looks useful.
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    beingshe7don Full Member

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    No one expected Ronaldo to score 50 goals in a season or become the goal machine that he is today. He struggled to score goals when he first came to United. There was a lot of dribbling with no end product but we believed in him. Dembele similarly has that same talent and he exhibits similar qualities as a 19 year old Ronaldo. I think the talent is the same but it's the work ethic that to reach Ronaldo's level is something that is up for question.
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    beingshe7don Full Member

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    I beg to differ. Martial was never this good especially with both feet. This season we've season Martial lose his mojo to actually take on his man with his pace and trickery. His off the ball game does not exist unlike Dembele who I believe is a lot more intelligent in that aspect. Dembele's through balls are a lot better than Martial's
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    Create a thread based on the metro ffs.
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    Vito Corleone Full Member

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    Fantastic source.

    On a serious note, I don't see him leaving Dortmund for a few years. He knows he's got weaknesses in his game that he needs to iron out and I think he will be at Dortmund for at least another season, probably more. When he does leave it will be for a HUGE fee.
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    Gives away the ball frequently but absolute magical dribbling ability. Best in that sense. Doubt he is moving anywhere this year though.
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    abhayselvan Full Member

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    We are not going to sign Dembele or Mbappe. We will buy established players who will instantly raise the level of our team.
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    Mainoldo Full Member

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    He's not more talented just different. Having watched him live as well, he is just as frustrating.. let him improve first.
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    Insanity Most apt username 2015

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    Will he able to give disciplined and hard working performances? Will be dislodged by Ashley Young after 10 games. Do not want.
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    Well he is. Talent has nothing to do with frustration, his ceiling is simply higher. Can use both feet to an exceptional standard, is just as good if not a better dribbler and is younger. Only thing Martial is better at is finishing, which isn't essential for a proper winger like Dembele.

    Martial is a great talent and can become a top player but Dembele has a higher ceiling. Not saying Dembele will become a better player because in football anything can happen, but he's more gifted a player
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    EyeInTheSky Full Member

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    He likes over hitting his through balls doesn't he...
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    Jib New Member

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    I like Martial but Dembele is more gifted. Ballon d'Or material !
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    Mainoldo Full Member

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    I didn't actually relate talent to frustration, I just didn't want people thinking your getting a better player by signing Dembele over Martial right now. Plus saying he has a higher ceiling is like comparing Robben to Ronaldo, it's not that obvious and nobody really knows. Martial is extremely talented, extremely!!
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    Raw as hell
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    Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber Thus says Kemo

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    I love him but I'd never give up a Martial for him. Nor any other youngster around for that matter
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    Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber Thus says Kemo

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    Not to mention the personal drive and ambition. That sets both Messi and Ronaldo apart
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    Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber Thus says Kemo

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    IMO he will become a world class version of the 2007 CR7. A dribbling creation wing wizard with goals
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    Escobar Poster originally known as Michel04

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    He wont move right now and also for himself it would be better to stay another 2-3 years
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    Vito Corleone Full Member

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    So...Messi? Only probably not as good.
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    sunama Baghdad Bob

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    I think that Jose may be looking to buy players who in their prime.
    He absolutely needs to win the title this coming season and if he buys some "kids", that won't be happening.
    Furthermore, we have seen what happened with Shaw and Martial. Any young player would be worried about joining our team, unless they have absolute confidence in their own ability to deliver the goods.
    I suspect this Summer, we shall see 2-3 new first team players - all of them in their prime - who can make immediate (positive) impact.
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    sunama Baghdad Bob

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    In other words, "the next/new Ronaldo" :D
    That's an extraordinary prediction considering that Ronaldo is one of the best players of all time.
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    Trizy Full Member

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    50m in today's market isn't too much of a risk, especially for the biggest under 21 talent in the world.

    Him and Martial on the wings of a 433 for the next 10 years :drool:
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    I really wanted us to sign him last summer, but he reportedly rejected us for Dortmund.
    Original source is the Sun. Aren't they banned here?
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    Infra-red Full Member

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    He has a contract until 2021, which means, insane Pogba-level offers aside, he'll be at Dortmund for at least another three seasons.
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    Fracture90 Full Member

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    Not 100% sure but isn't he the one that choose Dortmund before us when we wanted him in the summer of 2015? Or was that some other talented Dembele? Gosh there's so many Dembele's roaming around…
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    ovoxo Full Member

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    He'll be a top top player. Definitely top 3 in the world. However he won't leave Dortmund for at least another 2-3 seasons imo. When it does come to leaving, they'll be the usual big clubs in for him. Hopefully by then we've won a few titles and shown we can get to the latter stages of the CL to make ourselves attractive as possible. He'll probably be a world record transfer when it does come to leaving.