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Paul Pogba 2017-18 Performances

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6.1 Average rating
37 Appearances
6 Goals
16 Assists
5 Yellow cards
1 Red card
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  1. Apr 16, 2018

    Schneckerl Full Member

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    Sorry I meant more like him being a core player, not the clear #1 where everything revolves around him like in Messi's/Ronaldo's case.

    Surely that was the intention when getting him?
  2. Apr 16, 2018

    SirAF Ageist

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    I love Pogba, but he was doing step overs at the HALF WAY LINE ffs.
  3. Apr 16, 2018

    kouroux 45k posts to finally achieve this tagline

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    It was and it even went as far as giving him the armband but the club has realized it's too much for him. He might see himself as a superstar but his football doesn't back that.
  4. Apr 16, 2018

    el3mel Full Member

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    I won't sell him, however with such consistency and immaturity he should never be the center or the superstar of the team and we definitely should never build a team around a player that never plays consistently week in week out.
  5. Apr 16, 2018

    Varun Moderator Staff

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    Yeah ofcourse.
  6. Apr 16, 2018

    TheFlagStaysDown Full Member

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    wasn't good but should have stayed on the pitch when we don't have better and chase the result, bad sub by Mourinho imo
  7. Apr 16, 2018

    OldSchoolManc Full Member

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    He was in serious danger of a red card. That ridiculous handball and bringing their player down on the edge of our box was treading a very fine line.
  8. Apr 16, 2018

    Biji.Kelot New Member

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    Against already relegated WBA, for securing United 2nd place and an automatic CL spot, he did not seem interested.

    Jogged and jogged, no will to raise up the tempo, no will to lead an attack, no will to work harder, to fight better. No will at all.

    And for those who says why always Pogba to be pointed. Because he is purposed to be United main man. Like CR7 at Madrid, Messi at Barcelona, Neymar at PSG. That was our first hope of him. A midfield maestro who can dominate the game, attack like a hungry lion, defend like a wounded Rhino, spread the miraculous passing, and do the thunder bolt shooting.

    But in fact he is not that special. Many here says, look at his Juventus time, he was WC, best prospect ever, bla bla bla. Every decent players will do that playing with Pirlo and Vidal/Marchisio. He is just decent player no more than that.

    Almost 2 seasons for him, his style is still the same, his mentality is still the same. Yesterday, he look so afraid clashing with Brunt. For god sake, Brunt, a limited player, mostly play as a tough man. And he can not handle him.

    Sell him. He is crap. WC SocMed Player only.
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  9. Apr 16, 2018

    Rockets Redglare New Member

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    I think if a good offer comes in this summer he’ll be off. As obvious it is that Jose rates him you can see how pissed off he is with his attitude and bullshit tricks and flicks which do nothing to help the team.
    It’s annoying as feck as when he’s on it he’s almost unplayable.
  10. Apr 16, 2018

    Pace Abuser Full Member

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    I'e never seen something so conceited. Genine LOL moment.
  11. Apr 16, 2018

    JPRouve can't stop thinking about balls - NOT deflategate

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    That's what I love and dislike about him. Truth be told, I love watching him play but for someone else.:lol:
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    SirAF Ageist

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    :lol:
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    Bastian Full Member

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    What about the scenario that he's progressing towards getting the best out of the players whilst rebuilding a team and slowly fixing weaknesses? Is it either that he's a square peg in a round hole or flawless?

    I can't help but think that 2-3 players with the absolute right mentality would immediately improve the rest of the squad. It's difficult to hide when you are next to true professionals.
  14. Apr 16, 2018

    Pogue Mahone Poster of the year 2008

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    Like the players he signed last summer immediately improved the rest of the squad?
  15. Apr 16, 2018

    Handsome Devil Full Member

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    Yes, but everyone seems to be content with Pogba putting in one good half in a total of, oh, five or six games.
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    Stacks Full Member

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    so your whole basis is on a reward and transfer fee, without having watched his Juve games yourself over the course of a season? kind of pointless. You're only setting yourself up for huge disappointment if you are relying on highlight reels. I keep hearing "the Juve Pogba" "he wouldn't have made the Fifa Pro 11" yet no one can specify what he actually did that was better at Juventus. funny that
  17. Apr 16, 2018

    A-boateng New Member

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    He is one of those players for me who seems to play to the occasion. You see his play drop off when we play the lesser teams, but he is a totally different player in the big games like against City last week. He reminds me of Paul George from the NBA who only plays well in the playoffs but goes missing throughout the regular season.

    It's so annoying because he has so much talent and should be dominating throughout.
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    Bastian Full Member

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    I'd say they did have that impact for the first few months. And Zlatan did so last season along with Bailly. Not that I see Jose as some flawless character, but I see clear progression. Still major issues need sorting.
  19. Apr 16, 2018

    abdo99 Full Member City Lover

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    Found this very interesting. From 5:45 talks about Pogba's heat map and the fact he didn't play in the same position he was against City. The real elephant in the room here is Sanchez as evident in the heat maps. Martial when he came on actually kept the width and did better on the left that Sanchez did for the entirety of the game.
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    Roeindo New Member

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    [QUOTE="

    Found this very interesting. From 5:45 talks about Pogba's heat map and the fact he didn't play in the same position he was against City. The real elephant in the room here is Sanchez as evident in the heat maps. Martial when he came on actually kept the width and did better on the left that Sanchez did for the entirety of the game.[/QUOTE]

    Some would argue that Pogba not being professional because he didn't try his best but in fact he is, cause he did what the manager told him to.
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    haram Full Member

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    Sanchez played the same position against Swansea and Pogba played in a 2 with Matic. There was no problems on that occasion.
  22. Apr 16, 2018

    Valencia's Left Foot New Member

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    He’s got to be a huge pain in the ass for a manager, really limits the versatility in selecting formations.
    Relax dude, the team is progressing in an upward direction, that's simply a fact. Yes, it might not be at the exponential rate that you or I might like, and we are definitely struggling with consistency, but we are not that far away.
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    redflair Full Member

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    Exhibitionism and temperament problems are his two big weaknesses and, frankly, he's had about a three-month shutdown since the Burnley away game which has been so alarming for United fans that we question if we'll have a stable, working, improving midfield next season.

    It's that regression in the middle of the park that's going to be our Achilles heel in the 2018/2019 campaign if it's not adressed. New players might come in, take time to settle and we rinse and repeat again.

    I don't want Pogba to leave - but the epic descent in his performances since winter feel indicative of a lack of trust between manager and player.

    The bond just doesn't seem to be there anymore - and his performances on the pitch aren't doing anything to dissuade that impression.
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    Garethw scored 25-30 goals a season as a right footed RW

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    Very interesting indeed.
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    Sterling Archer Full Member

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    That yellow card said it all to me. What on earth was he thinking? That was stupid. It showed how lightly he took the match. And is a real harbinger for his how his United career could turn out if he doesn’t focus on being the player he was second half against City. That’s the focus and intensity we need. Every game.
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    Litch Full Member

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    Completely.
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    FootballHQ Full Member

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    Expendable.
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    Carlsen19 Full Member

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    Wouldn't lose any sleep if we cut our losses and got rid. Just doesn't look interested 9 times out of 10.
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    reddaz71 New Member

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    Sell him abroad to the highest bidder or as a bargaining chip for a worldy, Overall he has just not been good enough!
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    Andersons Dietician Full Member

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    Mail seems to have taken this and made a story out of it. Apparently Jose has given the go ahead for him to be sold this summer.
    If he was honestly sold because Jose can’t get the best out of him, then the club needs a slap in the face.
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    Eddy_JukeZ Full Member

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    Can't wait for Ballon D'Or winner Perisic to come in then :drool:

    While Pogba has his faults, if the club sold him, I think I'd lose a lot of faith and be turned off a bit.

    Yeah, I know a player isn't bigger than the club, but you'd have to question the club going forward.

    Rather flog Jose than Pogba any day.
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    Schneckerl Full Member

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    Well I don't think him in that role with mou as coach is the way to long term success for the club. So something needs to change. Either him or jose.
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    Greck Full Member

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    Interested to see if our brand obsessed board would sell its most popular name. Saw a graphic that had Pogba and Martial as the 3rd and 4th most known players in China after Ronaldo and Messi.
  34. Apr 17, 2018

    Rasfene Banned

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    Yeah he's King Pogba. The one that ought to leave is the old man mourinho.
  35. Apr 17, 2018

    Achilles McCool Full Member

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    Exactly this!

    I can’t remember watching Pogba running hard for a full match. Most of the time he’s walking or trotting, which is a poor example to show your teammates (if I was his teammate, I’d think he didn’t care, therefore I wouldn’t feel confident with him beside me and I definitely wouldn’t trust him for 90 minutes)
    I’m probably going to get a lot of shit for this, but a Pep quote about DeBruyne and Silva made me see the deficiencies in Pogba’s style of play:
    Pep- "It's easy when your two best players work harder and run further than anyone else in your team," referring to De Bruyne and David Silva. "What excuse does any other player have, if those two were doing that?"

    For me, Pogba’s attitude is a cancer to our team.
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    Achilles McCool Full Member

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    Would you take Veratti (who’s not playing like a “worldy” atm) for Pogba, straight swap?
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    Icemav Full Member

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    I agree with that completely. Nor do I have a problem with it. Our squad needs developing, replacements and upgrades who will take us to the next level. Pogba is an important member of the squad who can 'turn it on' at times, however I feel the championship winning backbone of the team will need to be put around him. The more he plays as a roaming advanced midfielder the better.
  38. Apr 17, 2018

    Emrethis Full Member

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    Agreed. If I'm being harsh, Pogba is a luxury player. He makes a good team better, but can't make a disjoint team good. He can't take control of a game or drive the team forward.

    Its just not his game. He likes long shooting, dribbling and scoring way too much to be the main playmaker. He doesn't defend well enough nor have the workrate to be the heart and engine of the midfield. He's too unpredictable and that makes him unreliable as a leader in the midfield.

    Unfortunately, it seems like the best way to use him is to give him a free role to drift around the pitch as he likes. He's not the sort of player who would play to any rigid instructions anyway.
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    Lentwood Full Member

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    I’m now firmly of the belief that we can’t have Pogba playing centrally at all.

    Seems to have regressed this season. Last season you could justifiably say he should have got double the number of assists and generally dominated against non-top 6 sides

    This year where playing WBA at home and he looks anonymous
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    Harry190 Full Member

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    In 15 years' time, he'll top the threads of biggest wastes of talent in football on this very forum.

    Based off Einstein's take on insanity, it is certifiably insane to expect something out of him now. It's getting late in the game.

    La pique, more like la grosse baudruche.
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