Discussion in 'Football Forum' started by Zebs, Feb 11, 2019.
Leave Ricky alone.
Maybe he could do a Mourinho criticising the owner or at least sly digs in interviews, before resigning. this is a joke
Or man up, confront the owner, say it to his face. not a joke
If he got sacked afterwards, at least he tried something, assuming the problem is really that.
He should join Ole backroom staff but his ego won’t let him. So, he should go back to BT sports and continue his rants.
I'd be happy with this too.
You should really take your own advice.
Where is the 'funny' in that?
Wasn't Scholes the "gaffer"? at Oldham? I'm confused.
This. Well said... He has my respect for being honest and saying what many of us in here unlike Neville who deliberately likes to appear 'different' and irationally supported Moyes and Mourinho despite evidence that they were up to no good for our club.
Worst post of the year winner.
He should know better in the future and not tell his opinions on different teams/players/managers - like we do on the Caf. Managing a team is way more difficult than critcising. Who'd have known, right?
Seriously, it's becoming boring now. Every pundit who speaks his mind in media, then gets a managerial job and fails, is told to stop voicing his thoughts. We do the same 24/7 but are comfortable with it as we'll never manage a football team and be embarrassed. Going by that logic, the line of failed managers in the studios is growing, adding the likes of Henry in recent times. Pundits, take note!
Wow. Epic fail. I didn't realise it was possible to fail so badly on the caf.
Read the interview with Xavi
"In the last 15 to 20 years the best central midfielder that I have seen — the most complete — is Scholes. I have spoken with Xabi Alonso about this many times. Scholes is a spectacular player who has everything," he said.
"He can play the final pass, he can score, he is strong, he never gets knocked off the ball and he doesn’t give possession away. If he had been Spanish then maybe he would have been valued more."
Or if that's not enough how about Zidane...
"My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder. Scholes is undoubtedly the greatest midfielder of his generation"
A manager would still have a boss though.
Just ignore him. Judging by his post history he pretends to be a United supporter but he clearly supports Liverpool. Those type of posters are only here for 1 thing...
Zidane has said similar things about Gerrard. You can list quotes about Gerrard right next to the ones of Scholes. Pretty sure Zizou claimed Gerrard was the best player in the world at one point.
Not that they'd call "gaffer". In football that's always the manager.
It wasn't scholesys actual text in fairness.
It would hopefully have made sense if it was!
Exactly. All I ever hear is that so and so once said Paul Scholes was a great player and Man United fans cling to that as proof that Scholes was the greatest player. I'm a 30 year United fan but cant ignore logical facts which are....
Paul Scholes was never in his career shortlisted for PFA player of the season..this means that not once during his career did his fellow professionals rate him as 1 of the top 6 players in the league. In Gerrards career he was shortlisted 8 (eight) times for PFA player of the year, that means Gerrarď was rated 1 of the top 6 players in the league 8 times by his fellow Pros. Scholes was a very good player..He was never as good as Viera, Keane, Gerrard, Lampard, De Bruyne and it is embarrassing to keep hearing fans pretend he was by quoting something a player once said 20 years ago.
What's embarrassing is to join an oppo forum pretending to support that team.
Being a huge Oldham fan and one of Manchester United`s most skilled players of the Ferguson era didn`t qualify Scholesy to be managerial material. I was very surprised he even considered management - never known as somebody who liked to verbalise his thoughts, loved his privacy, just wanted to play football, give his all, win and go home to his family.
Management requires much better communication skills in these days of player power, excessive salaries for even constant bench warming and more narcissistic, self-absorbed players whose obsession with cellphones and social media makes them less interesting and lacking interpersonal skills despite their over-inflated sense of importance. Too many players fit a few or all of those categories, even clubs like Oldham have some players like that.
Scholesy doesn`t have the skill set to manage a football team in terms of what is required to communicate these days. He doesn`t need the money, doesn`t have the charisma - why would he want to put himself through the management mill?
Tbf I thought he'd just spend his retirement hanging around outside Gregg's trying and failing to resist the temptation to go in several times a day.
I tended to be a Jose defender on here but that comment from him was nasty and way out of line. Paul Scholes is one of those players who just wanted to play football and knew he was more than adequately compensated for it. If he had ever been about the money he would have gone to the Italian clubs that were interested in him - Juventus and Inter-Milan for starters.
I like Paul Pogba and I am impressed with the way he has done an about-turn under Ole but he deserved some criticism before from United players turned pundits and the fans. Gobbing off on social media or doing it in a more sly, bitchy way under Jose, looking disinterested in games at times and playing the prima donna was everything the class of 92 including Paul Scholes never stood for.
As for Scholesy`s next move - come back to United as a skills coach for the young lads.
Why would a Liverpool fan join a United forum? Are you that obsessed with us?
Scholes is comfortably better than any player in that list..
Scholesy was a very different player in his style, skills and team role than all of the players you mentioned. He was never an enforcer or a box to box midfielder, for example, unlike Keano, Vieira and Gerrard. He was also different from Lampard and De Bruyne.
However, that doesn`t mean he wasn`t as good in terms of skills and game impact. Granted Scholesy was not a good tackler meaning he tended to foul too much. But for his size he held his own magnificently and his passing, involvement of other players, shooting ability and vision were remarked on by more people than just the one player you keep referring to.
He could have gone to any number of European teams and just as top Italian clubs were interested in Giggsy, Keano, and Beckham, they were also interested in Scholesy.
In fact Beckham and Scholesy were similar in their ability to thread passes through crowded areas, they could find space and they found time to be accurate even in harried, pressure-cooker situations. Scholesy was also similar to King Cantona in that he let the ball do the work.
Oh and let`s not forget he has suffered from asthma for much of his life. He managed to accomplish all of the above while needing an inhaler. That was Paul Scholes.
And it's still only March...
I bet Ole only invited him so he'd do the trick of hitting people who are taking a piss by the fence from long range.
I didn’t agree but could at least see his point for the majority. The last sentence though.. woof!
I have an easy way of determining how much people really know about football. And those who dont think Scholes was better than Gerrard and Lampard are the idiots not worth listening to
He could spend time with our midfielders on how to use the ball effectively. If having Scholes and Carrick doesn't improve your ability in possession, there's no hope.
No he isn't. That's as dumb as the op.
How do these people get promoted? Toilet standard post.
I was also for a long time and especially when the comment was made (think it was somewhere in the middle of his 2nd season), but thought that was absolutely unnecessary and nasty as you say.
The man never talked about money, didn't have an agent, not one single problem during contract renewals. It was pretty evident that money was not his priority at any time.
I understand why Jose took criticism hard, as Pogba was his main purchase and was underperforming in many cases, but he could have dealt it with much more class (something with which he struggled the longer he stayed our manager). It was pretty much wtf moment when I heard that he said it.
Agree about Scholes next move. I just don't see him as a managerial type, but coaching youngsters is something which could suit him. And something which would be brilliant for them also.
The majority of us newbies behave. Very few make posts like that clown you quoted.
Don't think he is promoted, that's why it says new member instead of full.
Newbies can post a certain number of times a day in the mains that increases with the amount of likes you get. Get enough likes from the scouts/mods/whatever they call them and you become a full member with full posting privileges. It's been that way since I signed up about 18 months ago, and was part of the reason why I did. Used to lurk on here sometimes prior to that and went to join after seeing thread/threads I wanted to take part in but couldn't join in because of the old newbie system.
The old system put me off signing up for a number of years. Impressing the right people, jumping through hoops seemed like too much work to me just so I could chat about football. It was (is) a forum, not a job interview. The newer way of doing things still attempts some form of quality control, just not nearly as strict.
Edit: Not that the old system didn't have merits too, it would have kept ActionJackson's post out. It wasn't for me though.
Literally the worst post ever made in redcafe history, I think.
Displaying a complete lack of knowledge on a subject, whilst simultaneously trying to pontificate to everyone in the thread - are you American?
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