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Petr Cech

Discussion in 'Football Forum' started by Adisa, Mar 4, 2018.

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    Adisa likes to take afvanadva

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    Thought Casillas' fall from grace was bad, this is ridiculous.
    He's not even that old for a keeper.
    Has he lost his motivation?
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    Ødegaard formerly MrEriksen

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    Would you be motivated if you played in defensive positions at Arsenal?
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    DWelbz19 Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    He's been pretty questionable ever since he moved to Arsenal, really.

    Can only assume he was on the way down at Chelsea and lack of defensive stability has exacerbated that?
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    oneniltothearsenal Arse Lover

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    He never had motivation at Arsenal. I've said it for two years he was an awful , awful signing. Summer of 2015 was easily the worst in Wenger career and the nail in his coffin
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    acnumber9 Full Member

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    Was he ever anything more than a solid keeper behind a good defence? I don’t think I ever watched Cech and thought he saved his team in the way you often do with De Gea.
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    Schneckerl Full Member

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    Yeah before he had his skull bashed in.
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    Robbie Boy Full Member

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    His was clearly on the wane when Arsenal signed him. I remember the hilarious hype when he signed for them.
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    R'hllor Full Member

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    15 pts GK
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    Kapardin Full Member

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    Probably meant 15 points conceded surely.
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    Classical Mechanic Full Member

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    15pts lost unfortunately for Wenger.
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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's Scout

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    Legend. Agent Pete.
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    Nedved Full Member

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    It was such a weird decision to invest in Cech and let Szczęsny go for peanuts. The latter has grown into a really good keeper looking at his performances for Roma and Juventus the past two years, and was Juve's player of the month for December. He will likely be Buffon's heir, and he was sold for only £10m!

    Thanks, Arsenal.
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    MadDogg Full Member

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    He was truly one of the best in the world before the skull injury. He did well to come back from that, but he never quite reached that level again.
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    NieThePiet New Member

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    Best sentence ever.

    We sold Szczesny for nearly nothing and now we have to pay at least 50m for a proper goalkeeper in summer. Just Arsenal business.
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    diplomat Banned

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    That's the craziest part of this whole situation. Wenger has been losing the plot for some time now.
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    acnumber9 Full Member

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    Possibly. It’s been such a long time since it happened it’s hard to remember what he was like before it.
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    JinnerJamie Small ginger

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    So you're saying they'd be 13th on 30pts without him? :eek:
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    phonics_tid Full Member

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    Let's not get too carried away here, Cech is well past his best but let's be honest, Szczesny was a truly awful goalkeeper. It's all well and good saying he might be a better option for them now but Wenger would've been destroyed (even more so) if they stuck with Szczesny between the sticks.
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    Kazi Full Member

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    This guy is so washed up
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    K2K Full Member

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    How about the Summer of 2008?
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    Skills Snitch

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    Sir Chesney was a bit of a joke back then tbf.
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    Akshay Moderator Staff

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    I think he would never have become this player under Wenger. At Arsenal he was arrogant and overconfident while not improving on his faults (poor at 1 on 1s, lapses of concentration). He needed a move and new impetus to improve. You could say the same for several of their players, they're not being pushed enough to become the best versions of themselves.
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    Varun Moderator Staff

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    Exactly. Careers go very differently based on things like these.
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    DWelbz19 Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    Seems like a great guy but looks like he is finished at the highest level.
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    oneniltothearsenal Arse Lover

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    2015 is definitely the worst imo. No outfield players and bought only a has-been keeper which we didn't need. Could have bought Lacazette that summer for around £30M for ex, and Wenger was even tipped off about Kante (twice while Kante was still in France by an old friend) but Wenger refused to purchase him for £5M because his head scout Grimandi said no. I'd even go as far to say that with the behind the scenes knowledge, the 2015 summer for Arsenal was the worst window of any top 4 team in the last 10-15 years.
    I'd also put the '11 window as worse than 2008 when Wenger lost two key players and fumbled the replacements with that infamous 8-2 scoreline.
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    Bojan11 Full Member

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    Still had Terry and Carvalho ahead of him. With Gallas as left back and Makelele protecting them.
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    Then sorry you haven't watched Serie A.

    He was a young keeper here with his starts for Arsenal. He did very well for Roma and in all games so far for Juventus. He will easily be Buffons replacement next season and someone will tell me, he isn't good enough for Arsenal but good enough for Juve?
    They are miles ahead of.

    He surely isn't world class, but surely not a clown like Cech or Ospina.
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    Kag Full Member

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    Szcesny was a complete halfwit for Arsenal. Wenger was right to bin him off. If anything, replacing him was about three years too late.

    He may be quite good now but he certainly wasn't when playing week in, week out for Arsenal.
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    Cech looks done, sadly. Great keeper back in the day, but that was a long time ago.
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    phonics_tid Full Member

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    And yet, he was an absolute clown when he was at Arsenal. Fair play to him in turning it around in Italy but there was absolutely no indication during his time here that he would turn into anything other than an average keeper. Hindsight is wonderful and all but you can’t fault Wenger for getting rid of him. Maybes it’s a case of being able to improve by playing alongside one of the best keepers the game has ever seen, something that he wouldn’t have got here.

    For all that I think Cech is done and has been for a few seasons now, it must be bloody awful playing with the defenders that he has in front of him.
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    Probably the toughest goalkeeper Messi has ever faced. At his best, he could stop world class players with relative ease but IMO he should leave the premier league, maybe try it out in La Liga or Bundesliga, plenty of clubs would be interested. Don't think he declined that much, but the PL does not allow any little mistake by the keepers, maybe in another league he will have more seconds to recover.
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    He's done for as a top keeper. No shame, one of the best keepers the EPL has even seen but he's past it and should retire or move on to an easier league.
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    Ødegaard formerly MrEriksen

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    Guy seems like a top class human being with how he contacts people who get into trouble to offer help and this here. Really disliked the annoying wall he was in front of the Chelsea goal before his injury, but I'm sure I'll love him as a pundit.
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    duffer Sensible and not a complete jerk like most oppo's Scout

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    Nah, he should stay at Arsenal for a few more years.
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    el3mel Full Member

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    :D :D
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    Keeps It tidy Hates Messi

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    Him, Casillas and Howard is why we should kill the myth that GKs peak in their 30s
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    Massive Spanner Thinks Geoff Shreeves has one

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    They're the exception to the rule rather than why it's untrue.
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    Why kill a "myth" because of a couple of keepers ignoring the vast amount of keepers that do stay going into their 30's?
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    devil in me Full Member

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    It wasn't that weird. At the time Szczney was one of the dodgiest keepers in the league, constantly making mistakes , whereas Cech was a solid keeper who prior to the year on the bench at Chelsea had been an excellent keeper, rarely making mistakes. Arsenal signing him was seen as a very shrewd move for a reason. Of all the crap transfer dealings Wenger has done over the years I don't think you can count Cech/Sczezney as one.