PFA Awards 2011/2012

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    Galactic Incorrigible pest

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    He had some really bad performances, e.g. City at home, that people just refuse to ignore.
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    Zen Full Member

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    So has almost every YPOTY nomination ever, thus the reason they are mostly nominated in there and not POTY.
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    They really need to revamp the system. This is done Mid-season so it's hardly on the players who were playing well under the radar early season. They also need to make it so you are actually a young player i.e under 21.
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    Brwned Have you ever been in love before?

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    Far more passes? He makes 4 more passes a game (5% more), while Carrick makes nearly twice as many tackles (Carrick's 2.8 to Toure's 1.6). It's the things like this that make Carrick 'underrated'...Toure's got a bigger presence and makes the odd storming challenge so it's easy to assume he makes more tackles, but that's all it is, baseless assumptions.
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    Song should be in ahead of Parker.

    Frimpong agrees.

    #Leaveeeeeeeeeeeeit
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    Brophs The one and only

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    Let's be honest, Jonny Evans has had a better season than every player on the Young Player list than Aguero and maybe Welbeck (though I'd argue not). Bale and Sturridge have been very patchy and Walker, while good, hasn't been to the same standard. Oxlade-Chamberlain has barely played.
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    Rado_N Grinner ruined my tagline

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    You're not allowed to use facts, it's unfair.
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    peterstorey Specialist In Failure

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    ... and they are lovely beyond any singing of it.
    Toure looks like a very good player who doesn't fit into a 4231 in England. He hasn't got the stamina and mobility around the pitch to play in the CM 2 nor the real forward quality to play in the hole.
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    AttackingFlair Full Member

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    Then how has he played so well this season?
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    Cling Bak Hi, I'm Barry Scott

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    23 and three quarters...
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    Snow Somewhere down the lane, a licky boom boom down

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    These awards are as creditable as the Oscars.
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    Jimy_Hills_Chin Desperately wants to be ITK

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    4 more passes a game? Where did you get your stats from?
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    peterstorey Specialist In Failure

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    He hasn't a lot of the time.
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    Brwned Have you ever been in love before?

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    Jimy_Hills_Chin Desperately wants to be ITK

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    Admittedly I was going off early season stats that I got from the Guardian Chalkboards where Toure was making over 100 passes per game compared to Carrick at 60-70. Toure has tapered off since then, like a lot of the City team, whereas Carrick has got better as the season has gone on, especially since Scholes has returned.

    Carrick and Scholes for England!

    Thanks for the link to that site, it is everything that I have ever been looking for!

    The key passes of Silva, Modric and Mata caught my eye. It might suggest that Silva's exalted reputation as a creator benefits from playing in a team with great strikers, that Modric is comparable to Silva as a creator but playing in a team with lesser strikers and that Mata would be fecking dynamite in a team with a true world class striker in the peak of his career.

    I do wish that we had signed Mata.
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    Baxter Full Member

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    Fletcher is a level above Parker. Between 07-09 he was consistently one of the best midfielders in the league, and he was our best at that time. I haven't seen Parker ever put in performances that Fletcher did when he became one of the 1st names on the teamsheet for us.
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    Parker wtf ?
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    I think it's to do with their respective positions which is something people don't seem to consider. I.e if you take silva then he either plays a drifting role from wide or and most usually as an out an out attacking midfielder. He doesn't have the responsibilities that other midfielders like modric has. Silva's role is much more similar to rooneys role. That's what often frustrates me when people talk about the lack of output from our midfield and then cite players such as silva and mata, who play much more attacking roles. I mean out midfield can improve m, and the likes of carrick have shown that, but in a modern day 4411/442 there's only so much they can provide. Agree though mata would have been a good signing drifting in from the left instead of young.
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    I agree and disagree, someone like Vidal does do his job a lot more effectively. I'm still not completely sure on Touré but think box-to-box midfielders of his ilk still have a place in England and abroad. He has the mobility and quality on the ball, just not the stamina as you say. He was carried defensively by an in-form Barry at the start of the season and still switches off too often in games. The ACoN this year and next doesn't help.

    City's lack of width has been well documented to the point of exaggeration but I think it plays a part here too. Less congestion in the middle allows a player like Touré to flourish; Essien's two best seasons at Chelsea came I think with the likes of Robben and Cole out wide. I'm not sure if Touré can improve his stamina but I think City could do a better job of harnessing his obvious ability, regardless.
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    Varun Wants the D...

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    Just been laughed at in another forum for suggesting Evans deserved to be there. Asked the guy how many Utd games he'd seen all season, he said 4 :rolleyes: He actually said it was a Heskey Bramble moment, me suggesting evans's name :lol:
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    Ash_G Full Member

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    You'll get plenty of that. None of my mates will rate Evans and if I bring him up I have my "red tinted glasses on". Same story in the past with fletcher.
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    Varun Wants the D...

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    Yep, old cliches and the same old party line when it comes to the likes of Fletch Evans etc. Will always be average players who have the odd good game for some people.
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    Ash_G Full Member

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    Tbh my mates won't even acknowledge they've had good games. Tbh though my mates are mostly fools
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    Varun Wants the D...

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    I think its all about not watching players and sticking to cliches about them. that irritates me. just imagine someone laughing off Evans when he's watched just 4 games he's played. incredibly stupid.
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    Ash_G Full Member

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    That's just how it goes in football. So much of it is down to the media who pick their favourites and are very hard to budge. I imagine if we win the title we'll have been dragged there by Rooney when there have been other far more consistent players than him such as carrick. I've heard little bits here and there about carrick but nothing major, he's exactly what England are calling out for and for me there hasn't been a more consistent midfielder all season, but he's been labelled now and it's very hard to shake off. Tbf though at least Evans is getting mentioned by sky etc
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    Jimy_Hills_Chin Desperately wants to be ITK

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    Aye good point

    Silva does get through more defensive work than Rooney though so it is fair to say that he plays a little further back. It is incredible that Silva only gets through about four more passes per game than Rooney.

    So, you think that we should sign Modric, seems to fit the bill? Is he worth 40m?
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    Ash_G Full Member

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    A Modric style player is what we could do with, although, with Fletch out we also need someone who can sure up the midfield as well as if Carrick gets injured we'd be pretty screwed. Either way I wouldn't spend 40mil on him. I don't think our team needs to spend that sort of money on one player.
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    Jimy_Hills_Chin Desperately wants to be ITK

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    That is my reservation. I think that we will have to buy smartly from abroad to bring in the midfielder of the required ability/potential this summer.
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    Varun Wants the D...

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    Yep, takes a long time to shake off the average myth.

    We need 2 players actually imo. a defensive cover for carrick should be 1st priority though.
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    Oops. Meant he's 3 behind RvP who everyone's sucking off. If he's that close to him and Aguero can be nominated then so too Rooney.
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    Martin Keown was on ESPN Soccernet Press Pass and mentioned it's done early so that the PFA can have as many players show up to their awards dinner as possible. Would assume that means nothing after the season. Even so, surely the voting can be done this month and the awards handed out in the week before the last game of the season. Let me see when it's usually done. Seems the award is usually handed out between now and the end of April. If so, surely they can have the voting done now rather than so early. The award ceremony is no excuse. Have the players fill in their forms this week, hire some temps to spend a weekend counting up the votes with supervision and hand out in April as usual.
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    Sean_RedDevil Twitter bot

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    That the players vote in February for this awards is a joke and the age limit for the YPOTY award should be 21 (Player age on matchday 1) therefore i make the awards with my rules :cool:

    Player of the year
    My nominees
    1) Robin Van Persie
    2) Yaya Toure
    3) Antonio Valencia
    4) Wayne Rooney
    5) Sergio Aguero
    6) Clint Dempsey
    The winner: Robin Van Persie

    The winner can only be Van Persie because he has scored 27 goals so far, has scored so many important goals too and his presence for his team.

    Young player of the year
    My nominees
    1) Kyle Walker
    2) David Hoilett
    3) Danny Welbeck
    4) Phil Jones
    5) Daniel Sturridge
    6) Steven Caulker
    The winner: Kyle Walker

    Walker plays absolutely brilliant in the defence and attack.......it's a joy to watch him.
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    gooDevil Worst scout ever

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    PFA needs to start voting about now, not December. Half season awards are pretty meaningless. Surely they can count a few votes fast enough.
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    I'm surprised that the odds on Walker to win it were suddenly shortened. He's a good right back and has had a good season, however to say he's been the best young player in the league is a stretch too far in my opinion.
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    Reading that Walker has won YPOTY. :lol::lol:
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    feck sake :lol:
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    Baxter Full Member

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    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/19042012/58/premier-league-scam-fear-pfa-young-player-award.html

    Dodgy.
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    Baxter Full Member

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    RVP has won POTY.
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    PFA Team of the Year: Hart; Walker, Kompany, Coloccini, Baines; Silva, Yaya Toure, Parker, Bale; Rooney, van Persie.

    Parker and Bale. :lol::lol::lol::lol:
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    How has Walker won it? He shouldn't have even been nominated.

    RVP has been deserved though. Fair play

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