Pick your England squad for the 2012 Euros

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    Can't really give you a definitive answer, cw, not sure myself.
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    GK: Hart, Stockdale, Foster
    Def: Terry, Ferdinand, Lescott, Smalling, Richards, Jones, Cole, Baines
    Mid: Carrick, Parker, Lampard, Gerrard, Walcott, Wilshere, Cleverley, Young
    ST: Rooney, Bent, Welbeck, Sturridge
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    Lennon?
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    IMO, England's best and most well-balanced XI looks something like:

    ---------------------Hart-------------------
    Walker-------Ferdinand-----Smalling-----Cole
    --------------Parker-----Carrick------------
    Lennon------------Gerrard-------------Young
    -------------------Rooney------------------
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    Aye, very good team that.
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    I don't like it.

    Parker AND Carrick?
    Lennon?
    No Wilshere or Cleverley?

    That looks like the typical kind of England side we've seen over the past God knows how many years...
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    GK: Hart, Robinson, Foster
    Defenders: Richards, Walker, Smalling, Ferdinand, Terry, Lescott, Cole, Baines
    Midfielders: Lennon, Walcott, Carrick, Parker, Gerrard, Lampard/Wilshere, Ox, Young
    Forwards: Rooney, Bent, Sturridge, Welbeck

    This is assuming that our reserve keepers make themselves available again which they may not.
    Wilshere to go if fit, if not then Lampard, Barry or Cleverley.


    Starting XI:

    ----------------Hart
    Walker----Terry----Ferdinand----Cole
    ----------Carrick----Parker/Wilshere
    Lennon-------Rooney--------Young
    -------------Welbeck


    or maybe

    ---------------Hart
    -------------Back 4
    --------Carrick---Parker/Wilshere
    --------------Gerrard
    -----Sturridge--Rooney--Welbeck
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    GK: Hart, Green, Foster

    DF: Smalling, Jones, Jagielka, Rio/Cahill, A.Cole, Walker, Richards, Baines
    MF: Wilshere/Barry, Cleverley, Carrick, Parker, Young, Gerrard, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Walcott
    ST: Welbeck, Sturridge, Rooney, Bent

    Will say up front that I don't think Wilshere will have time to prove his fitness. Rio may also well not be fit or on form.
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    Terry simply shouldn't be in the squad. Just like he shouldn't have been in the squad at South Africa. it's not just his form, but it's the attitude and the unrest he causes to both fans and the players. Time to invest in youth!
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    GK: Hart, Stockdale, Foster

    DF: Smalling, Walker, Jones, Cahill, Cole, Baines, Richards, King

    MF: Gerrard, Cleverley, Wilshere, Parker, Carrick, Johnson, Young, Chamberlain

    FW: Sturridge, Rooney, Welbeck, Bent

    --------------Hart

    Walker---Smalling---King/Cahill---Cole

    ----------Carrick--Parker

    Sturridge------Wilshere-----Chamberlain

    ---------------Rooney

    Real dilemma about fitting all of Wilshere, Carrick and Parker in a trio. I think Parker is the worst of the three but he's usually great for England so I had to put him in. Gerrard could quite easily fit in behind Rooney with Wilshere moving deeper for one of Carrick or Parker.

    If Cleverley gets fit and plays I'd also be interested in a United-centric lineup.

    ------------Hart

    Jones--Smalling--Ferdinand--Cole

    --------Carrick---Cleverley

    Chamberlain----Rooney----Young

    ------------Welbeck
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    Maybe on paper but not as part of an international team for me. Like some of your picks but once again, the Terry, Rio, Lampard, Gerrard, Cole, J Cole, Crouch should all be moved on. We've had countless world cups and Euro's with those same old tired names and they've (Bar Rio who's getting on and has injury issues) done very little at times. Its frightening how many people keep picking the same names, which I though was our problem with managers. Do a Holland/Germany, move on I say, think of 2014 not just today.

    Rio is the only one of that classic bunch who's shown real consistent worth at at tournament IMO and we took him last time and he got injured. Think Rio would love to go but for me he's at the time where he should do a Scholes/Shearer and concentrate on club.

    Not keen on Lennon either for England but reckon your choices of Hart, Walker, Smalling, Parker, Carrick, Young and Rooney are decent. Hart seems settled, Walker is young and fresh, Carrick despite probably a fair tally of caps now seems relatively untried properly, Parker at least looks like he wants to play in the shirt, Young works out too for us although despite Euro 2004, Rooney has a lot to prove still. Great in qualifications but he's never really got near that 18 year form but you take him because he took us there.

    My fear is if Redknapp gets in he'll just pick loads of those big PL names thinking he can get it to work.
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    Goalkeepers: Hart, Stockdale, Foster

    Defenders: Terry, Smalling, Cahill, Jagielka, Jones, Walker, Cole, Baines

    Midfielders: Young, AOC, Gerrard, Parker, Wilshere, Johnston, Cleverley,lennon

    Strikers: Rooney, Welbeck, Bent, Sturridge
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    Goalkeepers: Joe Hart, David Stockdale, John Ruddy

    Defenders: Micah Richards, Kyle Walker, Phil Jones, Chris Smalling, Rio Ferdinand, Gary Cahill, Ashley Cole, Leighton Baines

    Midfield: Michael Carrick, Steven Gerrard, Jack Wilshere, Scott Parker, Tom Cleverley.

    Forwards/Wingers: Wayne Rooney, Danny Welbeck, Daniel Sturridge, Ashley Young, Aaron Lennon, Adam Johnson, Theo Walcott.
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    Are we assuming no injuries for this thread? Because nearly one hundred percent have included Jack Wilshere.
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    Any old cnut.
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    No one's mentioned Scholes? I can see him considering playing for Redknapp...
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    Goalkeepers: Joe Hart, Robert Green, David Stockdale.

    Defenders: Micah Richards, Kyle Walker, Phil Jones, Chris Smalling, Rio Ferdinand, Gary Cahill, Ashley Cole, Leighton Baines.

    Midfield: Michael Carrick, Steven Gerrard, Jack Wilshere, Scott Parker, Tom Cleverley.

    Forwards/Wingers: Wayne Rooney, Danny Welbeck, Daniel Sturridge, Ashley Young, Aaron Lennon, The Ox, Adam Johnson.
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    assuming everybody is fit

    Goalkeepers: joe hart, fraser forster, rob green

    defenders: kyle walker, micah richards, rio ferdinand, chris smalling, phil jones, gary cahill, ashely cole, leighton baines

    midfielders: scott parker, michael carrick, jack wilshere, tom cleverley, steven gerrard, adam johnson, theo walcott, alex oxlade chamberlain, ashley young

    forwards: wayne rooney, danny welbeck, daniel sturridge
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    If the tournament starts tomorrow and everyone is fit then that would be my squad, but the tournament starts in 170 days so 1-2 changes are likely for the final squad.

    Goalkeepers
    Hart, Stockdale, Forster

    Defenders
    Richards, Walker, Ferdinand, Smalling, Jones, Lescott, A.Cole, Baines

    Midfielders
    Parker, Carrick, Milner, Cleverley, Wilshere, Young, Walcott, A.Johnson

    Strikers
    Rooney, Welbeck, Sturridge, Bent

    - I would only pick Ferdinand if he stays fit in the next months and Wilshere plays for 5-6 weeks before the end of the season.
    - Cleverley will be in my final squad if he stays fit in next months too, he's a massive talent and we don't have many players like him in the squad therefore he should be in the squad at the end with no further problems.
    - If Oxlade-Chamberlain plays further on so brilliant in the next months then i would pick him over Walcott or A.Johnson, but he has only played so brilliant in the last 4-5 games and that isn't enough for a place in the squad right now.
    - Forster is eligble for the olympics so maybe he should go that tournament and Ruddy should go the Euros, i mean to be number 1 for Great Britain at the olympics is much better than to be number 3 for England at the Euros.
    - I've my eyes too on players like Cahill, Rodwell, Davies (Mark from Bolton) or Campbell.
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    Without Rooney:

    Hart
    Richards Smalling Cahill Cole
    Parker Carrick Wilshere
    Young Welbeck Sturrdige​

    With Rooney:

    Hart
    Richards Smalling Cahill Cole
    Carrick Wilshere
    Young Rooney Sturridge
    Welbeck​

    Bench: Rooney/Parker, Walker, Baines, Jones, Rio, Cleverley, Adam Johnson, Lennon, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Bent, 2 Keepers
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    Hart, Foster, Stockdale
    Richards, Walker, Ferdinand, Smalling, Jones, Cahill, Baines, Cole.
    Carrick, Cleverley, Wilshere, Parker, Young, A. Johnson, Walcott, Lennon.
    Rooney, Welbeck, Sturridge, Defoe.

    I don't rate Bent and don't get the massive love in for him here either, if Owen had proper legs for a half year leading up to this I'd pick him over Bent as well. I'd go with someone else instead of Defoe but I'd want to bring more than 3 strikers. King deserves to get in, maybe over Ferdinand as bringing both would be too risky imo. Ferdinand gets the nod due to his experience though.

    Hart
    Walker Ferdinand Cahill Cole
    Carrick Parker
    Sturridge Wilshere Young
    Rooney ​

    Hard leaving Welbeck and Cleverley out of the line up, especially Welbeck, but I think if it was him and Sturridge as the wide players it would be a bit too gungho.
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    England's goalkeeping situation is ridiculous. Hart is good, but his backup is a second choice (?) keeper at Fulham with no experience at all. Norway's blessed with pretty shite keepers these days, but we'd probably provide better backup keepers than England do. (Well, not really... That's how shitty the noggie keepers are at this moment in time.)
    Fraizer? Because of two good games after a hundred years out injured or insignificant?
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    To be fair, the majority of people are including Cleverley off the back of 4 and a half good games...
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    I'd love to see Jones, Cleverley and Wilshere together in midfield, but it's not going to happen is it.
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    My team would be;

    ---------------------------Hart


    ------------Walker-----Smalling-----Rio-----Cole


    -------------------------Carrick


    -------------Cleverley--------------Wilshere


    Sturridge(A Johnson)-----------------Welbeck (the Ox)


    --------------------Rooney (Welbeck when Rooney suspended)


    Bench:
    Foster, Jones, Richards, Baines, Parker, Gerrard, Milner, A Johnson, Chamberlain, maybe 1 or 2 others from Norwich/Swansea, A Young, (Carroll for a plan "B"?, anyone?)

    I am not sure: Walcott, Defoe, Cahill


    The key being, the next England manager should have WC 2014 in sight and give some of the youngsters valuable experience and playing time.
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    Yeah forgot about Rodwell. I'd def have him in the squad.
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    I'd start by considering which of the current England team would be good to have in a young setup. To be able to guide them through and be happy as part of the squad. Once you've picked those players you then beef up the squad with young promising talent that should be featuring in the England squad for years to come.

    Welbeck and Sturridge should be leading the line with Rooney playing in the hole (allowing him to drop back into CM).

    ------------Hart------------
    --Walker-Smalling-Rio-Cole--
    -Wilshere--Parker--Cleverly-
    -----------Rooney----------
    -----Sturridge--Welbeck-----

    I'm probably being a little harsh on Richards and Lescott who could replace Walker/Rio. But the above team has a nice blend of pace/experience/aggression and technical ability. Perhaps a touch narrow and reliant on the Fullbacks but both Welbeck and Sturridge like to run into space, be that wide or centrally.
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    Funny thing about England is that a younger side would probably outperform the usual suspects. Same thing applies to Sweden, when we started to introduce loads of younger players, we started to play much better and more attractive football. Imagine an England XI of:

    -------------------Hart-------------------
    Walker------Smalling----Jones---------Cole
    ------Wilshire-----Carrick----Cleverley-----
    Sturridge---------Rooney----------Welbeck

    Much similar to that poster by RedSky above.
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    Great minds :p
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    Cleverley still has an absolute mile to go to have any chance of making the Euros.

    Wilshere will do well to make it with his injuries which is a shame.
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    rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks

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    The Under 25's:

    GK Joe Hart 24
    GK Frank Fielding 23
    RB Kyle Walker 21
    RB Micah Richards 23
    DF Chris Smalling 22
    DF Phil Jones 19
    RW Theo Walcott 22
    RW Aaron Lennon 24
    RW Matt Javis 25
    LW Adam Johnson 24
    CM Jack Rodwell 20
    CM Tom Cleverley 22
    CM Jack Wilshere 20
    FW Danny Welbeck 21
    FW Daniel Sturridge 22
    FW Gabriel Agbonlahor 25
    OAF Andy Caroll 23

    Of course if we don't win the Euroes the score stands at Brazil 5, Italy 4, Germany 3, Argentina 2, Uruguay 2, England 1, France 1, Spain 1.

    If we do win the Euroes the score becomes Germany 6, Brazil (non-eu) 5, Italy 5, France 3, Spain 3, England 2...

    so many we shouldn't try to win the Euroes.
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    It's all hypothetical of course. Half the squad could pickup injuries in the remainder of the season.
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    Yeh just think this one has come too early with his injuries. He is quite a way down the pecking order. He has only played 5/6 games for us!!
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    rcoobc Not as crap as eferyone thinks

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    He has the most important part of the season the prove his worth.
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    Depends on his form really mate. If Cleverly picks up where he left off then he'll become a first teamer for us for the remainder of the season. If however he struggles with form then yeah, I doubt he'll be in the first team for England come the Euros.

    All down to Tom now, the opportunity for him is there, especially with Wilshere struggling with injuries. I think we'll be starting Carrick in the Euros alongside Parker. That's the inform English CM partnership.
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    I'd go for a complete makeover and axe some of the so called 'Golden Generation' players. You have to go for the next generation at this time in my opinion. It might backfire in terms of results this summer, but at least they'll have spent lots of time together, and they'll have gelled on the pitch. It'll be an investment towards the future.

    And with the current team including Lampard, Gerrard, Barry, Terry, etc. you're far from sure of good results as well anyway.

    This would be my line-up at this moment

    --------------Hart------------
    Walker--Smalling--Cahill---Cole
    Sturridge-Carrick-Wilshere-Young
    -------Rooney--Welbeck---

    or

    --------------Hart------------
    Walker--Smalling--Cahill---Cole
    ---Carrick-Cleverley-Wilshere---
    --Sturridge--Rooney--Welbeck--


    Subs: some GK, Parker, Chamberlain, Jones, Cleverley/Young, Lescott, A. Johnson


    Something along those lines anyay. Richards, Lennon, Milner, Baines would also be in the selection.
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    There's a lot of teams here with Jones, Smalling, Cleverley, Welbeck in them, players we all love and have high expectations for but who have done little in football as yet.

    I'd love to see a youth-centred England full of United players, it might even make me give a shit, but it's not going to happen. Also it would probably melt down, you do need lots of experience.
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    It's pretty stonewall that Jones will be in the squad, and well Welbeck is like 90% likely too. Only Cleverley needs to truly prove himself a bit in the coming months and with Wilshere probably out, theres a spot available for him unless whoever wants to take like 5 wingers or something(which Cleverley can also playa anyway)

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